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Gear 3rd
1244 Posts
ok so about this draft... I feel the few control navi has they have to spend on axe and qop (shackle and Bane) i have a feeling that if the wd plays solidly a nice ult can wreck the whole navi squad yeeeeep | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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Yurie
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
And he even gets buffed because now heroes start with more mana than before, meaning that 15 mana more on shadow walk was not a nerf in the end | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
But, the problem with this approach is you can disrupt it with drafting AND it requires them to be playing really on-point. At DotaPit, Forev was pulling off things he probably couldn't at any other time, which is how they won the finals 3-0. (They should have normally lost games 1 & 3.) Thus, when they're not perfectly on-point, it goes really badly, as they get team-wiped and suddenly feed 5 kills + 2 buybacks at 20 minutes. | ||
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On April 29 2016 20:00 Papercappu wrote: prettty sure bloodthorn are more OP than blademail Nah, blademail is cheap so it's OP. Bloodthorn is just good for second most expensive item in the game. | ||
TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
On April 29 2016 19:58 Taf the Ghost wrote: Having gotten a chance to watch enough MVP.P when they're playing well, it's really the re-engagement approach that makes them good in the mid-game. They've found a good rhythm with their drafts to make it work. They draft in a way that let's them always get to fights quickly, and whoever gets jumped works to drag the fight out. (This is why they always draft tanky.) But, the problem with this approach is you can disrupt it with drafting AND it requires them to be playing really on-point. At DotaPit, Forev was pulling off things he probably couldn't at any other time, which is how they won the finals 3-0. (They should have normally lost games 1 & 3.) Thus, when they're not perfectly on-point, it goes really badly, as they get team-wiped and suddenly feed 5 kills + 2 buybacks at 20 minutes. I don't think Dotapit was at all impressive. They beat coL team and then feasted on a already in disband mode EG. Really you don't need to be much better than they were at Shanghai to do that. The ups and downs are there though. Not the most stable of playstyles but 5 man for days? | ||
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On April 29 2016 20:02 Papercappu wrote: Speaking about EG disband.Charlie is not their manager anymore. i wonder what happened Did not fullfill his homework obligations, duh. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
On April 29 2016 20:00 Papercappu wrote: prettty sure bloodthorn are more OP than blademail Comparing a 7k item vs 2k item smh And btw, blade mail is much more op | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On April 29 2016 20:01 TanGeng wrote: I don't think Dotapit was at all impressive. They beat coL team and then feasted on a already in disband mode EG. Really you don't need to be much better than they were at Shanghai to do that. The ups and downs are there though. Not the most stable of playstyles but 5 man for days? MVP.P's team-fight reached a next-level at DotaPit. They we're the favorites going into the Finals just because of how well they were playing there, but Forev spent most of the finals on avoiding dying by 50 hp or less. They were riding on the edge of disaster for a lot of play, but they were pulling it off. That's a Hot Streak, if there ever is one. But the Hot Streak ended and they got bounced by a T3 SEA team in an online series. Their approach works when they drill down as Koreans do when approaching eSports. But if they're not super on-point, they'll feed away a huge amount of kills and get snowballed. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On April 29 2016 20:02 Papercappu wrote: Speaking about EG disband.Charlie is not their manager anymore. i wonder what happened Pretty sure he works for GGA/Amazon, so maybe he took a different assignment? | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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ForTehDarkseid
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
On April 29 2016 20:16 Taf the Ghost wrote: Pretty sure he works for GGA/Amazon, so maybe he took a different assignment? source on this? | ||
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On April 29 2016 20:01 TanGeng wrote: I don't think Dotapit was at all impressive. They beat coL team and then feasted on a already in disband mode EG. Really you don't need to be much better than they were at Shanghai to do that. The ups and downs are there though. Not the most stable of playstyles but 5 man for days? You can break down and degrade any acheivment if you want (most common in boxing by the way), its not fair and you should know it , push come to shove they performed amazingly well and should get credit for that not some lame breakdown of execuse like EG in disband more crap or what not .... i guess if a team is not winning everything you guys are not impressed . They are one of the best Dota teams in the world today or you disagree ? | ||
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