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On April 29 2016 18:39 DucK- wrote:
Dagon 5 while likely to be troll from qo, is actually legit good in the circumstance. Given the networth of navi, alch does not need anymore DPS or tank items. Dagon 5 takes away the bulk of any navi hero HP. I'd say its actually way better than going for any other DPS items like mjolnir abyssal etc, given that MVP is looking to end the game at that window.
I wont disagree about the circumstance , i would say that anything that he wouldve bought would be legit and enough , a Hex for example will do the same work in locking down on a target of choice if you are looking at a bad item that coudl work here , usually when you are ahead there is little reason to buy situational items if you are not in a "must win now" condition because there is a chance it backfires and you throw , same as buying 3 Necrobook all of the sudden and push , sure it can work , but it can back fire.
tldr - it was a troll but effective in this case , anything else would net the same result but nothing is BM like a dagon 5.
I hope i wont see Dagon 5 in my pubs on alch (or alch in general  )
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On April 29 2016 18:40 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 18:39 DucK- wrote:
Dagon 5 while likely to be troll from qo, is actually legit good in the circumstance. Given the networth of navi, alch does not need anymore DPS or tank items. Dagon 5 takes away the bulk of any navi hero HP. I'd say its actually way better than going for any other DPS items like mjolnir abyssal etc, given that MVP is looking to end the game at that window. I cried a little when you called abyssal a DPS item. I mean, Dagon probably gives more DPS now.
Forgot about the change XD
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Pandemona
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1st wisp, now what Febby!
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On April 29 2016 18:44 bluzi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 18:39 DucK- wrote:
Dagon 5 while likely to be troll from qo, is actually legit good in the circumstance. Given the networth of navi, alch does not need anymore DPS or tank items. Dagon 5 takes away the bulk of any navi hero HP. I'd say its actually way better than going for any other DPS items like mjolnir abyssal etc, given that MVP is looking to end the game at that window. I wont disagree about the circumstance , i would say that anything that he wouldve bought would be legit and enough , a Hex for example will do the same work in locking down on a target of choice if you are looking at a bad item that coudl work here , usually when you are ahead there is little reason to buy situational items if you are not in a "must win now" condition because there is a chance it backfires and you throw , same as buying 3 Necrobook all of the sudden and push , sure it can work , but it can back fire. tldr - it was a troll but effective in this case , anything else would net the same result but nothing is BM like a dagon 5. I hope i wont see Dagon 5 in my pubs on alch (or alch in general )
Not really. Its the same reason why Dagon is such a good snowball item. A puck team dominating a game is usually better off with a Dagon rather than standard eul or hex. QO reached a window when he could snowball and kill heroes faster.
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On April 29 2016 18:42 Pandemona wrote:Yeah every game is bo3 here on out, minus grand final which is bo5. We have 3 days of lan, 4 games a day iirc Oh no, tomorrow is Losers Round 2 (2 games) and Losers Round 3 then WB final
thanks
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On April 29 2016 18:49 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 18:44 bluzi wrote:On April 29 2016 18:39 DucK- wrote:
Dagon 5 while likely to be troll from qo, is actually legit good in the circumstance. Given the networth of navi, alch does not need anymore DPS or tank items. Dagon 5 takes away the bulk of any navi hero HP. I'd say its actually way better than going for any other DPS items like mjolnir abyssal etc, given that MVP is looking to end the game at that window. I wont disagree about the circumstance , i would say that anything that he wouldve bought would be legit and enough , a Hex for example will do the same work in locking down on a target of choice if you are looking at a bad item that coudl work here , usually when you are ahead there is little reason to buy situational items if you are not in a "must win now" condition because there is a chance it backfires and you throw , same as buying 3 Necrobook all of the sudden and push , sure it can work , but it can back fire. tldr - it was a troll but effective in this case , anything else would net the same result but nothing is BM like a dagon 5. I hope i wont see Dagon 5 in my pubs on alch (or alch in general ) Not really. Its the same reason why Dagon is such a good snowball item. A puck team dominating a game is usually better off with a Dagon rather than standard eul or hex. QO reached a window when he could snowball and kill heroes faster.
As i said , he couldve picked any tier 4 item , are you arguing this is a legit pick for an Alch ? Puck is a different hero all togther why compare it ? it was a BM pick for me , you believe it wasnt , lets agree to disagree.
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ok so about this draft... I feel the few control navi has they have to spend on axe and qop (shackle and Bane)
i have a feeling that if the wd plays solidly a nice ult can wreck the whole navi squad
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that panelist couch looks so stiff
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Where is the crowd  Navi is playing in an empty arena in kyiev???? always breaks my heart to see Lan with no fans .... brings me back to SC2 bad days.
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On April 29 2016 18:57 bluzi wrote:Where is the crowd Navi is playing in an empty arena in kyiev???? always breaks my heart to see Lan with no fans .... brings me back to SC2 bad days.
you mean the present?
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On April 29 2016 18:58 Gear 3rd wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 18:57 bluzi wrote:Where is the crowd Navi is playing in an empty arena in kyiev???? always breaks my heart to see Lan with no fans .... brings me back to SC2 bad days. you mean the present?
and the future.
just like diablo 3 won't be redeemed by diablo 4, sc won't be see a better future
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On April 29 2016 18:38 bluzi wrote:Dude TA did nothing at all this game , Mirana was far from the issue.
On second thought, you're right.
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On April 29 2016 18:57 bluzi wrote:Where is the crowd Navi is playing in an empty arena in kyiev???? always breaks my heart to see Lan with no fans .... brings me back to SC2 bad days.
It's called holding main stage games on a Friday morning when virtually everyone is at school or work...
I can't begin to understand why tournaments bother with having games on the main stage on the week days. Not even in the late afternoon / evening, they start in the morning! It creates this stupid "riki crowd ded gaem" impression, which is obviously wrong considering tournaments held on weekends usually manage to pull good crowds (see: all ESL tournies) but the impression still exists and it does look bad. I just don't understand it.
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Who needs farm when you have kills?
Track gold just might pull MVP back enough to a decent position, still uphill.
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So, I missed game 1. But I think we can say, "Wisp is Meta" is appropriate again.
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WTF GENERAL
Bodyblocks his ember & sprouts them both
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Navi has this game on lockdown i feel , Ember is going to wreck them late game
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Tradee 3 for 4 gain 2200 gold, nice game this dota
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Not sure which way the jerk is going right now but let me just say this: Ayesee has way too little understanding of the game to cast. I mean it's one thing to just cast half of everything wrong in fights. But it's even worse when he's supposed to be a hype caster and he doesn't get hyped about the big plays or surprising turnarounds or gets hyped about the wrong stuff cos of his lack of understanding.
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Navi warding are amazingly good btw
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EPT
