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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
April 23 2016 10:30 GMT
#721
On April 23 2016 19:28 Procake wrote:
I've only been playing/watching Dota since TI3, did Icefrog always enjoy adding purposefully retarded stuff like Lifestealer ancients before? Remember I'm tlkaing about Icefrog and not Guinsoo's Death Ward Riki.

It's gotten significantly more stupid since WC3 DotA was abandoned, since it had a ton of limitations that Dota 2 doesn't. He has the freedom to do whatever he wants now.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
April 23 2016 10:30 GMT
#722
On April 23 2016 19:28 Procake wrote:
I've only been playing/watching Dota since TI3, did Icefrog always enjoy adding purposefully retarded stuff like Lifestealer ancients before? Remember I'm tlkaing about Icefrog and not Guinsoo's Death Ward Riki.

It's definitely a more recent thing
rip
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 10:34:07
April 23 2016 10:33 GMT
#723
On April 23 2016 19:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 19:15 Diavlo wrote:
On April 23 2016 19:08 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 23 2016 19:07 Diavlo wrote:
On April 23 2016 18:57 Salazarz wrote:
I like how casters whine at the invoker being 'op' while this ancient shit is running around the map, hehehe

Invoker being able to outpush an entire team behin a exorcism DP is kind definitely stupid.

The Ancient strat is silly but it's smart against non squalling bad farming carries like Ursa. If Wings had an Ember, a Jugg, an AM, a Specter they would be fine by now.

Out of those all only Jugg would be remotely fine against this strat.


The only reason Col is doing fine is because with all the space Wings had they could only farm an Ursa and an Invoker (and they banked hard on only the invoker), with an even remotely good late game carry Wings would be winning. I mean they might have still won with a useless Ursa.

Implying Wings had that space with late game carry instead of Ursa.

What did Ursa do for the first 25 minutes? He didn't pressure the Naix who got free farm, he got 2 kills, 4 assists and died 2 times while never taking Roach. He farmed a blink he couldn't use and then a BKB.

Seriously, I don't understand the argument, it's not like we haven't seen this strat fall flat on his ass all the time, most of them because you end up with an underfarmed Naix against a good late game carry.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 23 2016 10:34 GMT
#724
They were only able to win that because they could take fights with the other four heroes. The strategy is well thought out. It wasn't just "lelz Naix."
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 10:35:03
April 23 2016 10:34 GMT
#725
one thing i love about ESL
TIMERS idc if it's minutes off and they run ads around it, it's just a basic indicator of what to expect.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
April 23 2016 10:34 GMT
#726
well pre TI3 we had an armlet bear thing and ti3 spotlighted chen pudge hooks

Most of that is just due to new engine bug outs.

The new stupidity is all "creativity"

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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 10:36:01
April 23 2016 10:35 GMT
#727
On April 23 2016 19:30 TomatoBisque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 19:28 Procake wrote:
I've only been playing/watching Dota since TI3, did Icefrog always enjoy adding purposefully retarded stuff like Lifestealer ancients before? Remember I'm tlkaing about Icefrog and not Guinsoo's Death Ward Riki.

It's definitely a more recent thing

I can't wait for sniper's ulti which would turn the game into an FPS from his point of view.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
April 23 2016 10:36 GMT
#728
i don't know about yyou guys, but i think aghs luna is just ridiculous spell
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 23 2016 10:36 GMT
#729
On April 23 2016 19:35 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 19:30 TomatoBisque wrote:
On April 23 2016 19:28 Procake wrote:
I've only been playing/watching Dota since TI3, did Icefrog always enjoy adding purposefully retarded stuff like Lifestealer ancients before? Remember I'm tlkaing about Icefrog and not Guinsoo's Death Ward Riki.

It's definitely a more recent thing

I can't wait for sniper's ulti which would turn the game into an FPS from his point of view.


Aghs Riki where you can put him into your inventory
Good shit
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 23 2016 10:38 GMT
#730
On April 23 2016 19:27 Vertical wrote:
I wonder if CoL gonna get Alche'd again in game 2


It's banned : D
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
April 23 2016 10:40 GMT
#731
On April 23 2016 19:38 HammerKick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 19:27 Vertical wrote:
I wonder if CoL gonna get Alche'd again in game 2


It's banned : D

hype is dead
-Terran-
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 10:41:53
April 23 2016 10:40 GMT
#732
On April 23 2016 19:33 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 19:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 23 2016 19:15 Diavlo wrote:
On April 23 2016 19:08 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 23 2016 19:07 Diavlo wrote:
On April 23 2016 18:57 Salazarz wrote:
I like how casters whine at the invoker being 'op' while this ancient shit is running around the map, hehehe

Invoker being able to outpush an entire team behin a exorcism DP is kind definitely stupid.

The Ancient strat is silly but it's smart against non squalling bad farming carries like Ursa. If Wings had an Ember, a Jugg, an AM, a Specter they would be fine by now.

Out of those all only Jugg would be remotely fine against this strat.


The only reason Col is doing fine is because with all the space Wings had they could only farm an Ursa and an Invoker (and they banked hard on only the invoker), with an even remotely good late game carry Wings would be winning. I mean they might have still won with a useless Ursa.

Implying Wings had that space with late game carry instead of Ursa.

What did Ursa do for the first 25 minutes? He didn't pressure the Naix who got free farm, he got 2 kills, 4 assists and died 2 times while never taking Roach. He farmed a blink he couldn't use and then a BKB.

Seriously, I don't understand the argument, it's not like we haven't seen this strat fall flat on his ass all the time, most of them because you end up with an underfarmed Naix against a good late game carry.

The fun part is: i did not see this strat fall ever since folks started getting radiance with it, mainly because i have only seen this being executed by EG most recently and i rightfully ignore NA doto. And in case of Spectre/AM, instead of dodging the Ursa tri-lane, coL just goes for it. Not to mention that neither Spectre, Jugg or AM can do anything to ancient.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
April 23 2016 10:40 GMT
#733
On April 23 2016 19:28 Procake wrote:
I've only been playing/watching Dota since TI3, did Icefrog always enjoy adding purposefully retarded stuff like Lifestealer ancients before? Remember I'm tlkaing about Icefrog and not Guinsoo's Death Ward Riki.

I would say aether lens is one of them
if all support heroes bought it, then I think its broken
-Terran-
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 10:43:57
April 23 2016 10:43 GMT
#734
Does anyone else think Fy looks like a hedgehog? I always see it.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
April 23 2016 10:53 GMT
#735
what was that dive?
super gg
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 23 2016 10:57 GMT
#736
Wyvern solo killing the tower during this fight, think this is worth for col
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 23 2016 11:03 GMT
#737
DAMN that dream coil
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
April 23 2016 11:05 GMT
#738
Awful Doom. Slark just ran away and didn't take any damage.
super gg
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 23 2016 11:08 GMT
#739
Hmm slark?
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
April 23 2016 11:09 GMT
#740
I dont see how col wins this in the late game
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
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