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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
March 06 2016 09:17 GMT
#2361
I think wyvern was a good pick. Agha over bkb was the problem.
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
March 06 2016 09:17 GMT
#2362
Liquids warding really secured the early game so much that game.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
March 06 2016 09:17 GMT
#2363
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Baozi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1191 Posts
March 06 2016 09:18 GMT
#2364
pretty sure this game would've been very different if ee went for bkb earlier
i don't think this was a draft loss
"Universe is very spacey, we called him space man. He made a lot of space." - Arteezy
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 06 2016 09:18 GMT
#2365
mc and fata mvp for me. mc for the rat on top while fata with the baits
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
March 06 2016 09:18 GMT
#2366
yeah wyvern was the pick to go but ursa did nothing this game.
i am not sure you can pick an ursa this early tbh.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
March 06 2016 09:18 GMT
#2367
Another small note is the choice to complete vlad before blink. Unnecessary delay for something that doesn't give you much.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-06 09:19:14
March 06 2016 09:19 GMT
#2368
On March 06 2016 18:17 plasmidghost wrote:
We'll win the next two games for sure

It's gonna be really hard, it doesn't happen very often that a lower tier team would win a series after losing momentum and euphoria of beating the overwhelming favourite.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 06 2016 09:19 GMT
#2369
On March 06 2016 18:19 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2016 18:17 plasmidghost wrote:
We'll win the next two games for sure

It's gonna be really hard, it doesn't happen very often that a lower tier team would win a series after losing momentum and euphoria of beating the overwhelming favourite.

why would you call secret a lower tier team
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
March 06 2016 09:19 GMT
#2370
On March 06 2016 18:17 lolnoty wrote:
I really think the draft was not the issue. Their play and itemization could have won this.

i disagree and think it was on liquid to continually make mistakes for secret to win
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
March 06 2016 09:19 GMT
#2371
On March 06 2016 18:18 hfglgg wrote:
yeah wyvern was the pick to go but ursa did nothing this game.
i am not sure you can pick an ursa this early tbh.

like sven you don't pick them early

but at least we are not gonna see SvenV5 lineups please no more of that
this is a quote
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
March 06 2016 09:20 GMT
#2372
i think secret could've won but envy spent 2.5k on travels instead of getting bkb asap
roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
March 06 2016 09:20 GMT
#2373
The biggest issue were the two whiffed DP ults. Remember the structural damage all came from liquid pushing off the two whiffed ults.
The Purgatory of Endless Depths
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-06 09:21:59
March 06 2016 09:21 GMT
#2374
On March 06 2016 18:18 DucK- wrote:
Another small note is the choice to complete vlad before blink. Unnecessary delay for something that doesn't give you much.

He also had a change to complete bkb i think before that disasterous mid fight where everybody realized he's kited forever when he brought BoT's to try to that mid wrap around gank jump they did

After that he couldn't complete the bkb sooner as he just sniped all the time
this is a quote
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
March 06 2016 09:21 GMT
#2375
On March 06 2016 18:19 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2016 18:18 hfglgg wrote:
yeah wyvern was the pick to go but ursa did nothing this game.
i am not sure you can pick an ursa this early tbh.

like sven you don't pick them early

but at least we are not gonna see SvenV5 lineups please no more of that


I have to agree. The sven and ursa early picks have been disgusting and almost always a losing recipe for teams as soon as people remembered you can kite them.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
March 06 2016 09:22 GMT
#2376
On March 06 2016 18:19 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2016 18:19 LemOn wrote:
On March 06 2016 18:17 plasmidghost wrote:
We'll win the next two games for sure

It's gonna be really hard, it doesn't happen very often that a lower tier team would win a series after losing momentum and euphoria of beating the overwhelming favourite.

why would you call secret a lower tier team


you weren't here yesterday?

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On March 05 2016 18:50 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 18:49 LemOn wrote:
On March 05 2016 18:47 ch33psh33p wrote:
DIFFERENT

TIER

OF

TEAM

seriously? lol


you think secret loses that game from liquids position?

zero chance

amateur mistakes, bad positioning, gave up on the vision game, liquid did everything wrong and secret did everything right from that kind of disadvantage.

pretty clear different tier of team.

Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 06 2016 09:22 GMT
#2377
On March 06 2016 18:22 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2016 18:19 icystorage wrote:
On March 06 2016 18:19 LemOn wrote:
On March 06 2016 18:17 plasmidghost wrote:
We'll win the next two games for sure

It's gonna be really hard, it doesn't happen very often that a lower tier team would win a series after losing momentum and euphoria of beating the overwhelming favourite.

why would you call secret a lower tier team


you weren't here yesterday?

+ Show Spoiler +

On March 05 2016 18:50 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 18:49 LemOn wrote:
On March 05 2016 18:47 ch33psh33p wrote:
DIFFERENT

TIER

OF

TEAM

seriously? lol


you think secret loses that game from liquids position?

zero chance

amateur mistakes, bad positioning, gave up on the vision game, liquid did everything wrong and secret did everything right from that kind of disadvantage.

pretty clear different tier of team.


dont worry, i knew what you meant
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
March 06 2016 09:22 GMT
#2378
Give envy something comfortable he needs gaurenteed mobility heroes. if the hero only has dagger it's not his hero.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
March 06 2016 09:23 GMT
#2379
I agree that it's mostly on the play and items, but ursa was still too easy to play around for too long. Even with bkb instead of BoTs they were already on the back foot by that point.
Book of Funn1k, 3:22 "YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 0-7 TUSK?? I would so fuckin Walrus Punch you that you will get stunned for 1 year."
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
March 06 2016 09:23 GMT
#2380
On March 06 2016 18:20 Nymzee wrote:
i think secret could've won but envy spent 2.5k on travels instead of getting bkb asap

He was using it to bait out enemy team into falling for the 4 man smoke. They don't have the confidence to catch out liquid with hawk vision i guess
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