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nojok
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On January 13 2016 21:24 nojok wrote: Maybe I miss it but is there a second English stream? http://www.twitch.tv/dotastarladder_en2 | ||
SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On January 13 2016 21:24 Azarkon wrote: Uh, why would you pick Sven and Slardar to push base during the middle game? The draft was a late game draft, but it had Chen for early pushes so as to gain map control, which is what face rush strategies are all about - ganking the opponent into the ground, and then slow rolling the late game. Late game Slardar + Sven does in fact do well against Terrorblade and the Silencer and Invoker theoretically allows them to control the rest of the team, which were all spell casting heroes. But you can't play a face rush strategy when you get behind in the early game. So the argument could be that Goblak forgot how ridiculous a well played Earth Spirit is and that's why his picks were less than ideal. I'd accept that argument because I didn't know MMY's Earth Spirit was that impressive as well. i mean if you're going to go on assuming invoker + silencer play so well that literally nobody gets any spells off so that slardar and sven can hit the enemy hard carry uncontested then yea goblak had the omega draft of dota what a draft | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On January 13 2016 21:26 Kipsate wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/dotastarladder_en2 not meant to be offensive, but as staff, are you not able to append this to the right sidebar? | ||
Kamisamanachi
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On January 13 2016 21:27 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: not meant to be offensive, but as staff, are you not able to append this to the right sidebar? Only some can. I haven't been actual staff for a long while now btw. | ||
Gevna
France2332 Posts
On January 13 2016 21:24 Kipsate wrote: I dont think they were outdrafted at all, they were far too greedy for kills instead of focussing on objectives. Their lineup is a super strong deathball but they kept getting picked off and kept trying to chase(with no chase) instead of comitting more to pushes. I'm pretty sure they even outdrafted Fnatic. If they played their draft rightly, I don't see what Fnatic could have done at 18/20 mins against a furion / dp (backed with oracle omni) pushing highgroung. But whatever. | ||
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Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
On January 13 2016 21:27 Kipsate wrote: Only some can. I haven't been actual staff for a long while now btw. Slacker ![]() I asked OPTown if he around. | ||
Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
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PoulsenB
Poland7711 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On January 13 2016 21:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: i mean if you're going to go on assuming invoker + silencer play so well that literally nobody gets any spells off so that slardar and sven can hit the enemy hard carry uncontested then yea goblak had the omega draft of dota what a draft In retrospect, the invoker pick was completely useless in case they planned it to be exort to begin with. So provided that was the plan, then I'd have to take back them out picking LGD, because the invoker didn't fit the picks. Had they just wanted a solid middle hero for push, they ought to have picked viper. Had they wanted control, they ought to have gone quas wex. The exort invoker was a bad pick and made it so that they had no way to fight back in the middle game. | ||
goody153
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On January 13 2016 21:38 Kamisamanachi wrote: These Bo1's are brutal tho.....i think even bo2 would have been better than this Yeah b02's are nicer but i wish they would've made it a 1 group b01 round robin instead of 2 group b01 round robin. I miss that format | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On January 13 2016 21:39 goody153 wrote: Yeah b02's are nicer but i wish they would've made it a 1 group b01 round robin instead of 2 group b01 round robin. I miss that format double the amount of games tho. | ||
Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On January 13 2016 21:42 Taf the Ghost wrote: Shots fired at CDEC. the same shot should go to VP. The Illidan Leshrac games were the most painful leshrac performances at ti5 | ||
Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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goody153
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Yeah defeats the purpose of why they made this format in the firstplace but that's just my wishful thinking. I wish they made that kind of format again. | ||
Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
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