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mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 12:18:11
January 13 2016 12:17 GMT
#321
I knew Navi was finished but they killed Antimage and Ember but still couldn't take a new tower or the exposed top rax? Yuck.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 12:18:34
January 13 2016 12:18 GMT
#322
On January 13 2016 21:15 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 21:14 Azarkon wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:11 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:10 Azarkon wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:09 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
oh thank you

yea idk in what world you call this a teamspirit outpick


They have a hero that counters all five of LGD's heroes.

elaborate
i think you have a pretty wide definition of counter


Silencer + Chen + face rush strategy is designed to counter a strategy based on late game Terrorblade and a bunch of spell casting heroes. That is unless the opponent gets a greaves and BKBs before 20 minutes.

dark seer + earth spirit + zeus sounds ridiculously hard to push into tho regardless of tb's status

its not like global lasts for an entire tower siege


It doesn't matter whether they push in before 20 minutes. They just have to gain an mid game advantage. But instead they went 1-11 and their Invoker literally did nothing the whole game because he went Exort instead of Quas Wex.
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
January 13 2016 12:19 GMT
#323
net da real mvp. superb swaps
SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
January 13 2016 12:19 GMT
#324
the struggle was real for that game to finally end!
People call me Jack, OMASJack
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
January 13 2016 12:19 GMT
#325
My god we became so bad. Poor Sonneiko : (
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
January 13 2016 12:19 GMT
#326
No matter how, NaVi always loses to rat, be it with Ppy and Kky or without them, with Funnik and Xboct or without them, they just lose.
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 12:20:12
January 13 2016 12:20 GMT
#327
I hope Navi had a lof of fun killing this venge many times with 4 people.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
January 13 2016 12:20 GMT
#328
On January 13 2016 21:18 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 21:15 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:14 Azarkon wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:11 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:10 Azarkon wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:09 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
oh thank you

yea idk in what world you call this a teamspirit outpick


They have a hero that counters all five of LGD's heroes.

elaborate
i think you have a pretty wide definition of counter


Silencer + Chen + face rush strategy is designed to counter a strategy based on late game Terrorblade and a bunch of spell casting heroes. That is unless the opponent gets a greaves and BKBs before 20 minutes.

dark seer + earth spirit + zeus sounds ridiculously hard to push into tho regardless of tb's status

its not like global lasts for an entire tower siege


It doesn't matter whether they push in before 20 minutes. They just have to gain an mid game advantage. But instead they went 1-11 and their Invoker literally did nothing the whole game because he went Exort instead of Quas Wex.

if he goes wex then their midgame push is even more allin... and still against earth spirit dark seer zeus

like you've seen uni ds turn a thousand games, what makes this ds pick any different?
posting on liquid sites in current year
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
January 13 2016 12:20 GMT
#329
Nah Navi draft and items pickup were great. Their game execution or understanding of their own draft is pretty bad. EG or MB would have ended the game 20 min flat.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
January 13 2016 12:20 GMT
#330
Navi not looking too hot.

Good.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
January 13 2016 12:20 GMT
#331
Well. At least we can say that Navi did not play terribly. They just got outdrafted. That is still a concern though, because I never like when teams go greedy without stuns.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
January 13 2016 12:21 GMT
#332
On January 13 2016 21:20 babysimba wrote:
Nah Navi draft and items pickup were great. Their game execution or understanding of their own draft is pretty bad. EG or MB would have ended the game 20 min flat.

MB?
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 13 2016 12:22 GMT
#333
On January 13 2016 21:21 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 21:20 babysimba wrote:
Nah Navi draft and items pickup were great. Their game execution or understanding of their own draft is pretty bad. EG or MB would have ended the game 20 min flat.

MB?


Monkey Business = OG.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
January 13 2016 12:22 GMT
#334
On January 13 2016 21:21 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 21:20 babysimba wrote:
Nah Navi draft and items pickup were great. Their game execution or understanding of their own draft is pretty bad. EG or MB would have ended the game 20 min flat.

MB?

MB = OG
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Valhalla44
Profile Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
January 13 2016 12:23 GMT
#335
On January 13 2016 21:21 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 21:20 babysimba wrote:
Nah Navi draft and items pickup were great. Their game execution or understanding of their own draft is pretty bad. EG or MB would have ended the game 20 min flat.

MB?

I think he means monkey business aka team OG.
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
January 13 2016 12:23 GMT
#336
Team spirit got super rekt by LGD. suddenly LGD defeating fnatic looks decent compared to this rape...

fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
January 13 2016 12:23 GMT
#337
On January 13 2016 21:15 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Sylar is 6-0 on Terrorblade in 6.86.



Terrorblade is back!
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
January 13 2016 12:24 GMT
#338
On January 13 2016 21:20 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 21:18 Azarkon wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:15 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:14 Azarkon wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:11 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:10 Azarkon wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:09 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
oh thank you

yea idk in what world you call this a teamspirit outpick


They have a hero that counters all five of LGD's heroes.

elaborate
i think you have a pretty wide definition of counter


Silencer + Chen + face rush strategy is designed to counter a strategy based on late game Terrorblade and a bunch of spell casting heroes. That is unless the opponent gets a greaves and BKBs before 20 minutes.

dark seer + earth spirit + zeus sounds ridiculously hard to push into tho regardless of tb's status

its not like global lasts for an entire tower siege


It doesn't matter whether they push in before 20 minutes. They just have to gain an mid game advantage. But instead they went 1-11 and their Invoker literally did nothing the whole game because he went Exort instead of Quas Wex.

if he goes wex then their midgame push is even more allin... and still against earth spirit dark seer zeus

like you've seen uni ds turn a thousand games, what makes this ds pick any different?


Uh, why would you pick Sven and Slardar to push base during the middle game? The draft was a late game draft, but it had Chen for early pushes so as to gain map control, which is what face rush strategies are all about - ganking the opponent into the ground, and then slow rolling the late game. Late game Slardar + Sven does in fact do well against Terrorblade and the Silencer and Invoker theoretically allows them to control the rest of the team, which were all spell casting heroes. But you can't play a face rush strategy when you get behind in the early game. So the argument could be that Goblak forgot how ridiculous a well played Earth Spirit is and that's why his picks were less than ideal. I'd accept that argument because I didn't know MMY's Earth Spirit was that impressive as well.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
January 13 2016 12:24 GMT
#339
Yeah i somehow forgot they have a new team name lol
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 13 2016 12:24 GMT
#340
I dont think they were outdrafted at all, they were far too greedy for kills instead of focussing on objectives. Their lineup is a super strong deathball but they kept getting picked off and kept trying to chase(with no chase) instead of comitting more to pushes.
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