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HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
November 19 2015 18:14 GMT
#761
On November 20 2015 03:13 Kamisamanachi wrote:
liquid is pretty overrated team ....i dont understand why people hype that team..just feels like another tier 2 eu team with some raging kids in team which will cause it's doom in next few months


They are fine imo and have potential in some tournaments.
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DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
November 19 2015 18:14 GMT
#762
On November 20 2015 03:13 Kamisamanachi wrote:
liquid is pretty overrated team ....i dont understand why people hype that team..just feels like another tier 2 eu team with some raging kids in team which will cause it's doom in next few months



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Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
November 19 2015 18:15 GMT
#763
CDEC Tusk is pretty scary. Let's see how OG deal with it.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
November 19 2015 18:15 GMT
#764
On November 20 2015 03:11 Comeh wrote:
I'd be surprised if china didn't go through a reshuffle after this tournament

What good would a shuffle do when they don't have any good captains and the average individual skill is below the west's?
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Aldehyde
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden939 Posts
November 19 2015 18:15 GMT
#765
On November 20 2015 03:13 Kamisamanachi wrote:
liquid is pretty overrated team ....i dont understand why people hype that team..just feels like another tier 2 eu team with some raging kids in team which will cause it's doom in next few months


Or not, I'd hope TL has learned from their previous team(s) how to deal with internal issues. Who knows, though.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-19 18:16:36
November 19 2015 18:16 GMT
#766
On November 20 2015 03:15 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 03:11 Comeh wrote:
I'd be surprised if china didn't go through a reshuffle after this tournament

What good would a shuffle do when they don't have any good captains and the average individual skill is below the west's?

I'm curious if some org wants to put together a super team - plus cdec's captain is super good.

xaio8 could always join a team.

not sure average individual skill is below the west atm. They have a lot of top tier players, just not as concetrated as the west's
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 19 2015 18:16 GMT
#767
On November 20 2015 03:15 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 03:11 Comeh wrote:
I'd be surprised if china didn't go through a reshuffle after this tournament

What good would a shuffle do when they don't have any good captains and the average individual skill is below the west's?


Is it below the west?

3 out of the Top 6, and 4 out of the Top 8. And that's with one of the teams being unable to attend.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
November 19 2015 18:16 GMT
#768
On November 20 2015 03:15 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 03:11 Comeh wrote:
I'd be surprised if china didn't go through a reshuffle after this tournament

What good would a shuffle do when they don't have any good captains and the average individual skill is below the west's?

Sounds to me they need to discipline the shit out of their scene and begin to take the game a lot more seriously. When they spend more time playing RPGs instead of practicing there's a problem.
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SpikeBolt
Profile Joined February 2012
Portugal27 Posts
November 19 2015 18:16 GMT
#769
On November 20 2015 03:14 DV G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 03:13 Kamisamanachi wrote:
liquid is pretty overrated team ....i dont understand why people hype that team..just feels like another tier 2 eu team with some raging kids in team which will cause it's doom in next few months



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Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
November 19 2015 18:17 GMT
#770
On November 20 2015 03:14 DV G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 03:13 Kamisamanachi wrote:
liquid is pretty overrated team ....i dont understand why people hype that team..just feels like another tier 2 eu team with some raging kids in team which will cause it's doom in next few months



Daily reminder you're posting in Liquid dota forums


i posted what i saw about these players in the past ...it's just that they didn't perform upto the hype they got at the start..they can perform better with time but idk..i don't feel them as a team ..more like a relaxed stack formed with expectation of getting top 8 at some tournaments
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Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
November 19 2015 18:17 GMT
#771
On November 20 2015 03:15 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 03:11 Comeh wrote:
I'd be surprised if china didn't go through a reshuffle after this tournament

What good would a shuffle do when they don't have any good captains and the average individual skill is below the west's?


I don't think the average individual skill is below the West in any way, or if it is it's not enough to make a difference that can't be compensated for in teamwork.

No good captains is a cause for concern, but at least a reshuffle creates the potential for a team that works well together.
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
November 19 2015 18:17 GMT
#772
hmm Lion, that's kinda unexpected
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Aldehyde
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden939 Posts
November 19 2015 18:17 GMT
#773
On November 20 2015 03:16 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 03:15 Daralii wrote:
On November 20 2015 03:11 Comeh wrote:
I'd be surprised if china didn't go through a reshuffle after this tournament

What good would a shuffle do when they don't have any good captains and the average individual skill is below the west's?

Sounds to me they need to discipline the shit out of their scene and begin to take the game a lot more seriously. When they spend more time playing RPGs instead of practicing there's a problem.


So one team doing that after winning TI somehow means the whole scene does it?
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 19 2015 18:17 GMT
#774
On November 20 2015 03:16 SpikeBolt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 03:14 DV G wrote:
On November 20 2015 03:13 Kamisamanachi wrote:
liquid is pretty overrated team ....i dont understand why people hype that team..just feels like another tier 2 eu team with some raging kids in team which will cause it's doom in next few months



Daily reminder you're posting in Liquid dota forums

Which does not censor users opinions.



Technically it does, just not related to Dota.

However I think Liquid isn't really overrated. And it's not only Liquid, there are many EU teams in the pool to choose from.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44132 Posts
November 19 2015 18:18 GMT
#775
On November 20 2015 03:13 SpikeBolt wrote:
Currently on public transportation, can anyone tell me the draft when completed please?

sure
this is a quote
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
November 19 2015 18:18 GMT
#776
Who's in the panel for this game? I'm hearing a voice I haven't heard before.
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
November 19 2015 18:19 GMT
#777
Oooh a silencer
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
November 19 2015 18:19 GMT
#778
On November 20 2015 03:18 HammerKick wrote:
Who's in the panel for this game? I'm hearing a voice I haven't heard before.


PIECAT
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
November 19 2015 18:19 GMT
#779
0-2 0% thanks redeye

idk weird strat by cdec, hard to actually win the game with these heroes and win a highground fight
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
November 19 2015 18:19 GMT
#780
Feels like CDEC got a good start and then jumped off the deep end. Weird isn't necessarily bad though.
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