EPT[ESL One] New York 2015 Qualifiers - Page 46
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uthgard
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 04 2015 05:19 Kabras wrote: it is, and a pretty hard one at that. but not when pl already has a tusk. I mean, it highly depends on how illusions are treated by overwhelming odds. If they are counted as illusions, LC is auto-win against PL, since it is not, they are not and as such overwhelming odds remains a mediocre aoe against PL with downtime high enough for PL to shrug it off. EDIT: Apparently jonassamfan has 7-0 on LC LMAO. Including that one disasterous aghs LC game. | ||
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
On September 04 2015 05:21 DucK- wrote: It is as useful as a PL counter as any hero with good aoe. no it's not about the aoe, it's about the duel that keeps him from using spells for a long ass time. that's why it's also a strong storm, qop and ember counter. the reason lc isn't picked often is cuz she herself gets hard countered by high tier picks in this patch like wyvern, dazzle, tusk and the enemy team is gonna have at least one of those heroes by the time you can afford to pick lc. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 04 2015 05:25 Kabras wrote: no it's not about the aoe, it's about the duel that keeps him from using spells for a long ass time. that's why it's also a strong storm, qop and ember counter. the reason lc isn't picked often is cuz she herself gets hard countered by high tier picks in this patch like wyvern, dazzle, tusk and the enemy team is gonna have at least one of those heroes by the time you can afford to pick lc. 0.3 cast point disable. Duel is about as good against pl as storm's vortex lmao. On September 04 2015 05:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: you mean as heroes as opposed to as non hero units? Aye, i am falling asleep here. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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wims80
1892 Posts
On September 04 2015 05:29 TRAP[yoo] wrote: these furion picks seem strange. is bulldog still not good enough on other heroes? What's strange about them, he's usually having a big impact with them. | ||
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Meiffeltower
Sweden674 Posts
On September 04 2015 05:29 TRAP[yoo] wrote: these furion picks seem strange. is bulldog still not good enough on other heroes? haha.. or maybe he is the best furion in the world and its a comfort pick ? | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On September 04 2015 05:29 TRAP[yoo] wrote: these furion picks seem strange. is bulldog still not good enough on other heroes? i think alliance and bulldog still believe that he's just next level on furion in a way that transcends metas considering that it remained a priority ban for him in the ti4 meta, and he'd win games that it remained unbanned, they're probably not wrong | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 04 2015 05:33 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: i think alliance and bulldog still believe that he's just next level on furion in a way that transcends metas considering that it remained a priority ban for him in the ti4 meta, they're probably not wrong Furion was pretty relevant as a hero in ti4 meta. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
EDIT: Balanced helicopter man. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On September 04 2015 05:33 lolfail9001 wrote: Furion was pretty relevant as a hero in ti4 meta. o yea i forgot it was part of vg's playstyle too hmmmmm well considering he doesnt make it look like one of the weakest heroes of this patch like he's generally considered, seems fine w/e | ||
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
On September 04 2015 05:27 lolfail9001 wrote: 0.3 cast point disable. Duel is about as good against pl as storm's vortex lmao. Aye, i am falling asleep here. huh is 0.3 sec a foolproof amount of time for pl to always dodge the duel or what? these guys are pros, not machines. and vortex doesn't last for 4 seconds.. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On September 04 2015 05:32 Meiffeltower wrote: haha.. or maybe he is the best furion in the world and its a comfort pick ? ofc he is but its not like they needed his furion to win game 1. i understand that its a comfort pick but if its not working out "great" vs nip i dont see them being a team to look out for | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 04 2015 05:36 Kabras wrote: huh is 0.3 sec a foolproof amount of time for pl to always dodge the duel or what? these guys are pros, not machines. and vortex doesn't last for 4 seconds.. 0.3 sec with ~10 ms ping (they almost certainly play on stockholm) is like standard reaction time for a human and doppel is instant. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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Zea!
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