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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 31 2015 20:03 GMT
#201
On September 01 2015 05:02 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:59 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:57 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:55 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:54 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:52 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:25 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
In which case you don't need rift.


No. Rift + illusions is where the gib comes in. That would be the entire point.

Ember is sort of hero where you don't even care about damage if you catch him, you have to make sure it's positive number.


Tell that to CDEC and their slark.

You mean the part where ember had to commit for skadi+linkens for that?


What's your point? ES would have to do the same against a CK. Knowing how to itemize Ember Spirit is half the battle.

CK does not have instant cast disable and/or gapcloser, here is your difference.


Yeah you're right the game is 1v1. I totally forgot about that.

It's funny how you still defend that garbage slark pick. Even PPD said they knew the game was over after they picked slark.

That garbage slark pick was the sole thing holding them in the game out of the whole carry pool. Item build was the whole different matter.


Not really. They were in the game because CDEC is a top tier team and can compete at the highest level despite a slark.

CDEC were not even close to top tier in those finals. And no, name me a single available carry in that game that is not a food for either Xin or SWM-clock.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
August 31 2015 20:04 GMT
#202
On September 01 2015 05:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:02 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:59 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:57 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:55 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:54 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:52 dutchfriese wrote:
[quote]

No. Rift + illusions is where the gib comes in. That would be the entire point.

Ember is sort of hero where you don't even care about damage if you catch him, you have to make sure it's positive number.


Tell that to CDEC and their slark.

You mean the part where ember had to commit for skadi+linkens for that?


What's your point? ES would have to do the same against a CK. Knowing how to itemize Ember Spirit is half the battle.

CK does not have instant cast disable and/or gapcloser, here is your difference.


Yeah you're right the game is 1v1. I totally forgot about that.

It's funny how you still defend that garbage slark pick. Even PPD said they knew the game was over after they picked slark.

That garbage slark pick was the sole thing holding them in the game out of the whole carry pool. Item build was the whole different matter.


Not really. They were in the game because CDEC is a top tier team and can compete at the highest level despite a slark.

CDEC were not even close to top tier in those finals. And no, name me a single available carry in that game that is not a food for either Xin or SWM-clock.

bust out the pocket medusa strat
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 31 2015 20:04 GMT
#203
On September 01 2015 05:04 Thetwinmasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:02 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:59 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:57 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:55 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:54 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
Ember is sort of hero where you don't even care about damage if you catch him, you have to make sure it's positive number.


Tell that to CDEC and their slark.

You mean the part where ember had to commit for skadi+linkens for that?


What's your point? ES would have to do the same against a CK. Knowing how to itemize Ember Spirit is half the battle.

CK does not have instant cast disable and/or gapcloser, here is your difference.


Yeah you're right the game is 1v1. I totally forgot about that.

It's funny how you still defend that garbage slark pick. Even PPD said they knew the game was over after they picked slark.

That garbage slark pick was the sole thing holding them in the game out of the whole carry pool. Item build was the whole different matter.


Not really. They were in the game because CDEC is a top tier team and can compete at the highest level despite a slark.

CDEC were not even close to top tier in those finals. And no, name me a single available carry in that game that is not a food for either Xin or SWM-clock.

bust out the pocket medusa strat

But then you picked medusa and that's even more of a problem when your leshrac gets dominated in lane by Xin.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
August 31 2015 20:05 GMT
#204
On September 01 2015 05:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:04 Thetwinmasters wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:02 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:59 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:57 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:55 dutchfriese wrote:
[quote]

Tell that to CDEC and their slark.

You mean the part where ember had to commit for skadi+linkens for that?


What's your point? ES would have to do the same against a CK. Knowing how to itemize Ember Spirit is half the battle.

CK does not have instant cast disable and/or gapcloser, here is your difference.


Yeah you're right the game is 1v1. I totally forgot about that.

It's funny how you still defend that garbage slark pick. Even PPD said they knew the game was over after they picked slark.

That garbage slark pick was the sole thing holding them in the game out of the whole carry pool. Item build was the whole different matter.


Not really. They were in the game because CDEC is a top tier team and can compete at the highest level despite a slark.

CDEC were not even close to top tier in those finals. And no, name me a single available carry in that game that is not a food for either Xin or SWM-clock.

bust out the pocket medusa strat

But then you picked medusa and that's even more of a problem when your leshrac gets dominated in lane by Xin.

should have put /s
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 31 2015 20:06 GMT
#205
On September 01 2015 05:05 Thetwinmasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:04 Thetwinmasters wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:02 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:59 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:57 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
You mean the part where ember had to commit for skadi+linkens for that?


What's your point? ES would have to do the same against a CK. Knowing how to itemize Ember Spirit is half the battle.

CK does not have instant cast disable and/or gapcloser, here is your difference.


Yeah you're right the game is 1v1. I totally forgot about that.

It's funny how you still defend that garbage slark pick. Even PPD said they knew the game was over after they picked slark.

That garbage slark pick was the sole thing holding them in the game out of the whole carry pool. Item build was the whole different matter.


Not really. They were in the game because CDEC is a top tier team and can compete at the highest level despite a slark.

CDEC were not even close to top tier in those finals. And no, name me a single available carry in that game that is not a food for either Xin or SWM-clock.

bust out the pocket medusa strat

But then you picked medusa and that's even more of a problem when your leshrac gets dominated in lane by Xin.

should have put /s

I mean, i know it was a joke, but real talk, Game 3 was in CDEC's bag draft-wise, and slark was absolutely fine pick this game (or rather, the only available yet somewhat-viable one).
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 31 2015 20:06 GMT
#206
that death ward rofl
posting on liquid sites in current year
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 31 2015 20:07 GMT
#207
On September 01 2015 05:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:02 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:59 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:57 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:55 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:54 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:52 dutchfriese wrote:
[quote]

No. Rift + illusions is where the gib comes in. That would be the entire point.

Ember is sort of hero where you don't even care about damage if you catch him, you have to make sure it's positive number.


Tell that to CDEC and their slark.

You mean the part where ember had to commit for skadi+linkens for that?


What's your point? ES would have to do the same against a CK. Knowing how to itemize Ember Spirit is half the battle.

CK does not have instant cast disable and/or gapcloser, here is your difference.


Yeah you're right the game is 1v1. I totally forgot about that.

It's funny how you still defend that garbage slark pick. Even PPD said they knew the game was over after they picked slark.

That garbage slark pick was the sole thing holding them in the game out of the whole carry pool. Item build was the whole different matter.


Not really. They were in the game because CDEC is a top tier team and can compete at the highest level despite a slark.

CDEC were not even close to top tier in those finals. And no, name me a single available carry in that game that is not a food for either Xin or SWM-clock.


We've had this conversation already. I'm clearly not changing your mind so it's a waste of time.

The fact of the matter is you just said locking down ES is all that's needed to kill him, unless the carry tasked with the job of killing him is a slark apparently.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 31 2015 20:07 GMT
#208
Even bots use death ward better.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 31 2015 20:08 GMT
#209
On September 01 2015 05:07 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:02 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:59 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:57 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:55 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:54 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
Ember is sort of hero where you don't even care about damage if you catch him, you have to make sure it's positive number.


Tell that to CDEC and their slark.

You mean the part where ember had to commit for skadi+linkens for that?


What's your point? ES would have to do the same against a CK. Knowing how to itemize Ember Spirit is half the battle.

CK does not have instant cast disable and/or gapcloser, here is your difference.


Yeah you're right the game is 1v1. I totally forgot about that.

It's funny how you still defend that garbage slark pick. Even PPD said they knew the game was over after they picked slark.

That garbage slark pick was the sole thing holding them in the game out of the whole carry pool. Item build was the whole different matter.


Not really. They were in the game because CDEC is a top tier team and can compete at the highest level despite a slark.

CDEC were not even close to top tier in those finals. And no, name me a single available carry in that game that is not a food for either Xin or SWM-clock.


We've had this conversation already. I'm clearly not changing your mind so it's a waste of time.

The fact of the matter is you just said locking down ES is all that's needed to kill him, unless the carry tasked with the job of killing him is a slark apparently.

You missed the point: The time when slark failed to kill him was when he used abyssal into linkens unaware. So... ES was not locked down. What was my point again? Right.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 31 2015 20:10 GMT
#210
On September 01 2015 05:08 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:07 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:02 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:59 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:57 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:55 dutchfriese wrote:
[quote]

Tell that to CDEC and their slark.

You mean the part where ember had to commit for skadi+linkens for that?


What's your point? ES would have to do the same against a CK. Knowing how to itemize Ember Spirit is half the battle.

CK does not have instant cast disable and/or gapcloser, here is your difference.


Yeah you're right the game is 1v1. I totally forgot about that.

It's funny how you still defend that garbage slark pick. Even PPD said they knew the game was over after they picked slark.

That garbage slark pick was the sole thing holding them in the game out of the whole carry pool. Item build was the whole different matter.


Not really. They were in the game because CDEC is a top tier team and can compete at the highest level despite a slark.

CDEC were not even close to top tier in those finals. And no, name me a single available carry in that game that is not a food for either Xin or SWM-clock.


We've had this conversation already. I'm clearly not changing your mind so it's a waste of time.

The fact of the matter is you just said locking down ES is all that's needed to kill him, unless the carry tasked with the job of killing him is a slark apparently.

You missed the point: The time when slark failed to kill him was when he used abyssal into linkens unaware. So... ES was not locked down. What was my point again? Right.


They had him locked down multiple times with lion and still couldn't kill him in big team fights, and the reason is slark just doesn't do that much damage unless he gets time to stack up his essence shift.
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
August 31 2015 20:20 GMT
#211
On September 01 2015 04:55 bluzi wrote:
Whats wrong with the turks ? why are they going up like that ? that tier 4 is manhandling them


Coz we are T4
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 31 2015 20:39 GMT
#212
On September 01 2015 05:10 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:08 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:07 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:02 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:59 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:57 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 01 2015 04:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
You mean the part where ember had to commit for skadi+linkens for that?


What's your point? ES would have to do the same against a CK. Knowing how to itemize Ember Spirit is half the battle.

CK does not have instant cast disable and/or gapcloser, here is your difference.


Yeah you're right the game is 1v1. I totally forgot about that.

It's funny how you still defend that garbage slark pick. Even PPD said they knew the game was over after they picked slark.

That garbage slark pick was the sole thing holding them in the game out of the whole carry pool. Item build was the whole different matter.


Not really. They were in the game because CDEC is a top tier team and can compete at the highest level despite a slark.

CDEC were not even close to top tier in those finals. And no, name me a single available carry in that game that is not a food for either Xin or SWM-clock.


We've had this conversation already. I'm clearly not changing your mind so it's a waste of time.

The fact of the matter is you just said locking down ES is all that's needed to kill him, unless the carry tasked with the job of killing him is a slark apparently.

You missed the point: The time when slark failed to kill him was when he used abyssal into linkens unaware. So... ES was not locked down. What was my point again? Right.


They had him locked down multiple times with lion and still couldn't kill him in big team fights, and the reason is slark just doesn't do that much damage unless he gets time to stack up his essence shift.

The only time i remember when they did fail to kill him in big team fight was that one where it was indeed abyssal dropped into linkens. Also, this fucking ember went for like bf skadi, doing same shit against Gyro would likely land a win in the game.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
August 31 2015 22:43 GMT
#213
On September 01 2015 02:15 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 02:02 cuckoo wrote:
Welp, next up MFF probably will face Vega, doubt they gonna win, but should be a fun match

excuse me


You can do it Teddy!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
MetalMercury
Profile Joined January 2015
United States1161 Posts
September 01 2015 15:22 GMT
#214
This game between FD and Kingdom is actually extremely insane.

This Ember is so sad =(
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 01 2015 15:31 GMT
#215
Lol, Meracle
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
September 01 2015 16:10 GMT
#216
Can't believe yoky left Empire just to play on this team..
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
September 01 2015 16:14 GMT
#217
On September 02 2015 01:10 shizaep wrote:
Can't believe yoky left Empire just to play on this team..

he wanted to play mid or carry and both of those were still taken
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dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
September 01 2015 16:20 GMT
#218
LOL? wtf are these idiots on radiant trying to fight them for? This is one of the biggest out drafts i've seen in a while.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 01 2015 16:33 GMT
#219
On September 02 2015 01:20 dutchfriese wrote:
LOL? wtf are these idiots on radiant trying to fight them for? This is one of the biggest out drafts i've seen in a while.

Which one of those is outdraft tho.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
September 01 2015 16:42 GMT
#220
pl gud hero
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