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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 08 2015 03:13 FHDH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:12 konadora wrote:On August 08 2015 03:11 superstartran wrote:On August 08 2015 03:10 konadora wrote:On August 08 2015 03:08 superstartran wrote:On August 08 2015 03:05 konadora wrote:
anyone else think dazzle is such an overrated support?
if the carry can actually do something during the 5 seconds of grave, you probably dont need grave at that point and just require glimmer capes and guardian greaves, which other supports can buy (and probably easier too, since they probably have better farming abilities)
also dazzle has his poison touch completely ignored, meaning dazzle is basically a 3 skill hero that doesnt provide as much as say, a gyro does His weave is a game fight winning skill if properly placed. And Grave means that other teams can't pick burst centric line-ups. but my point is, grave can be replaced with solar crest and glimmer cape, meaning dazzle can be replaced with other supports with better utility, maybe even cm Dazzle counters Lina who is a pretty hot pick right now. mmm maybe i just dont like a 1 hero to direct counter another hero thing, just my personal preference haha Thing is Euls is a one-item counter to Shallow Grave and is 100% core on Lina. If she's not setting up a kill with it she can finish one.
How exactly does it counter?
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On August 08 2015 03:13 BurningSera wrote:lets go LGD oh please Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:12 Azarkon wrote:On August 08 2015 03:10 superstartran wrote:On August 08 2015 02:57 bagels21 wrote:On August 08 2015 02:47 shad2810 wrote:On August 08 2015 02:46 Azarkon wrote:On August 08 2015 02:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 08 2015 02:43 superstartran wrote:On August 08 2015 02:11 shad2810 wrote:On August 08 2015 02:09 Shergal wrote:
I think the whole "Azarkon vs China" thing started when everyone at the west got traumatized by EHOME stomping through ESWC 2010. That's what started the divide between the Chinese Dota fanboys and those who hated them/thought it was a fluke. Say, what actually did happen and how azarkon became azarkon that he is today? ESWC 2010 was when EHOME showed up and Western teams were talking mad shit about how they were going to smash the Chinese teams with Slardar/mass blink strats. Then EHOME showed up and rolled them with things like 7 minute daggers on Lion (MMY or X! at the time basically rolled over every mid player with his eyes closed),defensive farming tri-lanes (which no one had ever executed at that level; there were tri-lanes but they were aggressive all-in push lanes), and overall just superior mechanical/strategic play that whole tournament. EHOME was like literally universes apart from the EU/NA scene at the time. Essentially, you had pros playing against a bunch of amateurs. It was quite funny how bad the stomping was actually, only TEG managed to put up a good fight. And somehow that alone caused 5 years of salt? No. He has no idea what he's talking about. I was a fan of Ehome 2010. Those who actually remember me back then will know that. I'm not going to explain because it's too long and I want to watch the game. Please do explain what happen after game 1. The funny thing is azarkon isn't lying about being a fan He is lying about the whole East vs West debate, he was clearly on the side of the West. + Show Spoiler + I said before that if Ehome 3-0's DTS, I'm going to admit that China is the best, and I'm going to make good on that statement - Post ESWC 2010 I was on the side of the West before Ehome won, but in no way was I on the side of the West after it. you know this sound like some PTSD that scarred you for life lol
I don't see how. I was not that into the whole West and East issue back then.
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On August 08 2015 03:13 lolfail9001 wrote:
What is up with xiao8 jumping roles last days. He moved from 4 to 5 in CDEC match and is now back to 3rd position he used to be in Newbee.
they probably wanted tusk and he cant play it as well as yao does
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On August 08 2015 03:12 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:10 superstartran wrote:On August 08 2015 02:57 bagels21 wrote:On August 08 2015 02:47 shad2810 wrote:On August 08 2015 02:46 Azarkon wrote:On August 08 2015 02:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 08 2015 02:43 superstartran wrote:On August 08 2015 02:11 shad2810 wrote:On August 08 2015 02:09 Shergal wrote:
I think the whole "Azarkon vs China" thing started when everyone at the west got traumatized by EHOME stomping through ESWC 2010. That's what started the divide between the Chinese Dota fanboys and those who hated them/thought it was a fluke. Say, what actually did happen and how azarkon became azarkon that he is today? ESWC 2010 was when EHOME showed up and Western teams were talking mad shit about how they were going to smash the Chinese teams with Slardar/mass blink strats. Then EHOME showed up and rolled them with things like 7 minute daggers on Lion (MMY or X! at the time basically rolled over every mid player with his eyes closed),defensive farming tri-lanes (which no one had ever executed at that level; there were tri-lanes but they were aggressive all-in push lanes), and overall just superior mechanical/strategic play that whole tournament. EHOME was like literally universes apart from the EU/NA scene at the time. Essentially, you had pros playing against a bunch of amateurs. It was quite funny how bad the stomping was actually, only TEG managed to put up a good fight. And somehow that alone caused 5 years of salt? No. He has no idea what he's talking about. I was a fan of Ehome 2010. Those who actually remember me back then will know that. I'm not going to explain because it's too long and I want to watch the game. Please do explain what happen after game 1. The funny thing is azarkon isn't lying about being a fan He is lying about the whole East vs West debate, he was clearly on the side of the West. + Show Spoiler + I said before that if Ehome 3-0's DTS, I'm going to admit that China is the best, and I'm going to make good on that statement - Post ESWC 2010 I was on the side of the West before Ehome won, but in no way was I on the side of the West after it.
So did you like ehome? I'm really confuse with all this debate.
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Hahaha, see Earthshaker cleary hero of the tournament xD
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konadora
Singapore66360 Posts
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That was quite the YOLO dive...
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Is it time to call 1-800-Merlini?
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
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There wasn't a snowball. 
Ahh he was lv 1.
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Bearded Elder29904 Posts
"p"
Must slap Yao for that dive.
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Northern Ireland22212 Posts
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that pause lol
wp by FNG though!
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Did they punch their monitor and have to fix it now.
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On August 08 2015 03:14 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:13 FHDH wrote:On August 08 2015 03:12 konadora wrote:On August 08 2015 03:11 superstartran wrote:On August 08 2015 03:10 konadora wrote:On August 08 2015 03:08 superstartran wrote:On August 08 2015 03:05 konadora wrote:
anyone else think dazzle is such an overrated support?
if the carry can actually do something during the 5 seconds of grave, you probably dont need grave at that point and just require glimmer capes and guardian greaves, which other supports can buy (and probably easier too, since they probably have better farming abilities)
also dazzle has his poison touch completely ignored, meaning dazzle is basically a 3 skill hero that doesnt provide as much as say, a gyro does His weave is a game fight winning skill if properly placed. And Grave means that other teams can't pick burst centric line-ups. but my point is, grave can be replaced with solar crest and glimmer cape, meaning dazzle can be replaced with other supports with better utility, maybe even cm Dazzle counters Lina who is a pretty hot pick right now. mmm maybe i just dont like a 1 hero to direct counter another hero thing, just my personal preference haha Thing is Euls is a one-item counter to Shallow Grave and is 100% core on Lina. If she's not setting up a kill with it she can finish one. How exactly does it counter?
2.5s disable.
Use it at the beginning of Grave and waste half the duration.
Use it near the end and the 50 magic damage will kill a 1HP enemy when Grave wears off.
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EPT
