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shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
August 07 2015 00:46 GMT
#4381
Poll: Recommend Losers' Round 4 Game 1?

Yes (27)
 
90%

If you have time (1)
 
3%

No (2)
 
7%

30 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Round 4 Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No

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beifru
Profile Joined November 2013
2164 Posts
August 07 2015 00:46 GMT
#4382
iceiceice is not choking deep into TI. Has he finally broken the curse?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 07 2015 00:47 GMT
#4383
Pugna did more hero damage than Hao/Cty/Zyf this game. LMAO.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 07 2015 00:47 GMT
#4384
On August 07 2015 09:46 beifru wrote:
iceiceice is not choking deep into TI. Has he finally broken the curse?

there were some questionable iceiceice games before that's for sure
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 07 2015 00:47 GMT
#4385
On August 07 2015 09:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
I think you're confused. They are obviously talking about iG vs Secret game 1 in which s4 went for shiva over hex against Burning AM.

Yes, and I'm saying 20 minutes before that item choice ever came up, Arteezy could have gone a not-Eul's item on SF, and they would have ended the game before s4 even had the choice to make between Shiva and Hex.

The only reason it went that late is because Eul's isn't an item that lets you break lanes. It lets you farm and solo kill outside the base but does nothing when you're actually trying to get into the base.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 07 2015 00:47 GMT
#4386
On August 07 2015 09:47 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 09:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
I think you're confused. They are obviously talking about iG vs Secret game 1 in which s4 went for shiva over hex against Burning AM.

Yes, and I'm saying 20 minutes before that item choice ever came up, Arteezy could have gone a not-Eul's item on SF, and they would have ended the game before s4 even had the choice to make between Shiva and Hex.

The only reason it went that late is because Eul's isn't an item that lets you break lanes. It lets you farm and solo kill outside the base but does nothing when you're actually trying to get into the base.

Oh damn, i forgot Rtz actually went for blink euls that game.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 07 2015 00:48 GMT
#4387
On August 07 2015 09:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
Pugna did more hero damage than Hao/Cty/Zyf this game. LMAO.

ward is a good spell
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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
August 07 2015 00:48 GMT
#4388
fy was not great. fenrir es always delivers and ice's zeus was phenomenal.

super and hao did his job i feel. super just needed to drop nether ward and hao had no choice he had to tank the spells and be in the frontline.

rotk was horrible.
beifru
Profile Joined November 2013
2164 Posts
August 07 2015 00:48 GMT
#4389
On August 07 2015 09:47 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 09:46 beifru wrote:
iceiceice is not choking deep into TI. Has he finally broken the curse?

there were some questionable iceiceice games before that's for sure


His games in the playoffs have been solid tbh.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 07 2015 00:48 GMT
#4390
On August 07 2015 09:47 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 09:46 beifru wrote:
iceiceice is not choking deep into TI. Has he finally broken the curse?

there were some questionable iceiceice games before that's for sure


he got it out of his system
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 07 2015 00:48 GMT
#4391
On August 07 2015 09:47 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 09:46 beifru wrote:
iceiceice is not choking deep into TI. Has he finally broken the curse?

there were some questionable iceiceice games before that's for sure

He was awful early on but he's been improving the further they go in the bracket. I have hope.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 07 2015 00:48 GMT
#4392
On August 07 2015 09:48 beifru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 09:47 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 07 2015 09:46 beifru wrote:
iceiceice is not choking deep into TI. Has he finally broken the curse?

there were some questionable iceiceice games before that's for sure


His games in the playoffs have been solid tbh.

Except the one vs Navi.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
August 07 2015 00:48 GMT
#4393
On August 07 2015 09:44 stuchiu wrote:
Its strange, but the way I look at it is FY/Fenrir always bring it. And then you need 2/3 of the other 3 players: iceiceice/Hao/Super to show up, but Hao kind of never shows up.

Hao was their best player in the groups, even above FY. Most of his yolo moments actually have to do with something other than him being mindless honestly, especially this game where he had to take the brunt of EHOME during sieging. VG managed to defend him with Glimmer/Force in the last fight and that's how they won.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 07 2015 00:49 GMT
#4394
On August 07 2015 09:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 09:48 beifru wrote:
On August 07 2015 09:47 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 07 2015 09:46 beifru wrote:
iceiceice is not choking deep into TI. Has he finally broken the curse?

there were some questionable iceiceice games before that's for sure


His games in the playoffs have been solid tbh.

Except the one vs Navi.

i need my memory joggled again, what happened in this game? i remembered it being distinctly close.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
August 07 2015 00:49 GMT
#4395
On August 07 2015 09:47 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 09:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
I think you're confused. They are obviously talking about iG vs Secret game 1 in which s4 went for shiva over hex against Burning AM.

Yes, and I'm saying 20 minutes before that item choice ever came up, Arteezy could have gone a not-Eul's item on SF, and they would have ended the game before s4 even had the choice to make between Shiva and Hex.

The only reason it went that late is because Eul's isn't an item that lets you break lanes. It lets you farm and solo kill outside the base but does nothing when you're actually trying to get into the base.


He went Euls and BoTs. Somewhat useless in fights even.
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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
August 07 2015 00:49 GMT
#4396
he missed many waves on qop, the most crucial one led to vg losing raxes to am wisp.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
August 07 2015 00:49 GMT
#4397
On August 07 2015 09:48 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 09:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
Pugna did more hero damage than Hao/Cty/Zyf this game. LMAO.

ward is a good spell

+lifesteal.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 07 2015 00:50 GMT
#4398
On August 07 2015 09:49 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 09:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 07 2015 09:48 beifru wrote:
On August 07 2015 09:47 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 07 2015 09:46 beifru wrote:
iceiceice is not choking deep into TI. Has he finally broken the curse?

there were some questionable iceiceice games before that's for sure


His games in the playoffs have been solid tbh.

Except the one vs Navi.

i need my memory joggled again, what happened in this game? i remembered it being distinctly close.

iceiceice QoP's. It was not horrible but it was underwhelming. Granted, QoP in general was underwhelming at this TI
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 07 2015 00:50 GMT
#4399
GRILL ADMIN in Ehome booth. :\
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
August 07 2015 00:50 GMT
#4400
On August 07 2015 09:48 Shergal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 09:44 stuchiu wrote:
Its strange, but the way I look at it is FY/Fenrir always bring it. And then you need 2/3 of the other 3 players: iceiceice/Hao/Super to show up, but Hao kind of never shows up.

Hao was their best player in the groups, even above FY. Most of his yolo moments actually have to do with something other than him being mindless honestly, especially this game where he had to take the brunt of EHOME during sieging. VG managed to defend him with Glimmer/Force in the last fight and that's how they won.


Regardless this bickering is showing something important...

I think in almost every TI an argument like this breaks out about the winner. To go deep you need to have a roster where different people can stand out at different times. Not only does it cover your good players on a bad game, but it also keeps your team flexible and with good depth. If the same player is doing well each game eventually someone is going to shut that player down.
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