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SlottedPig
Profile Joined November 2014
United States52 Posts
August 06 2015 02:32 GMT
#5061
On August 06 2015 11:30 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:29 Orome wrote:
While we're on aghs, sad shoutout to weaver aghs, the most broken upgrade in the game if only it was on a hero that's not weaver.

i remember seeing it in a pro game exactly once and it was glorious
it might have been that it was stolen by rubick tbh
edit: no it was in a game with an alch and the casters were like 'wtf why give aghs to weaver' and next fight it basically won them the game


european qualifiers, the game that eliminated Alliance (don't remember which team it was)

also featuring lv1 rosh
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 06 2015 02:32 GMT
#5062
On August 06 2015 11:32 lolnoty wrote:
luna comparisons are good and all but... rocket barrage

luna does not need to chase someone closely to damage them.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 06 2015 02:33 GMT
#5063
On August 06 2015 11:28 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:26 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:24 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

True, especially against illusions. In fact, picking her into illusions is bad, unless you are playing against pubstack called implosion gaming.

she gets kited/controlled more easier than gyro

also gyro has retarded bullshit to turn a 1v1 or 1v2 around

I mean, luna has even better ability to turn 1v1/1v2 around than gyro can dream of. Also, Luna is better at winning games, gyro is better at bringing lost games back.

Luna is snowbally, don't expect her to win if the game is even vs a stronger late game carrier, it's not like she's terrible in the late game but she does fall off in comparison to the likes of AM/PL/Spec/Tiny/Ember or even dusa.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 02:33:51
August 06 2015 02:33 GMT
#5064
On August 06 2015 11:32 SlottedPig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:30 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:29 Orome wrote:
While we're on aghs, sad shoutout to weaver aghs, the most broken upgrade in the game if only it was on a hero that's not weaver.

i remember seeing it in a pro game exactly once and it was glorious
it might have been that it was stolen by rubick tbh
edit: no it was in a game with an alch and the casters were like 'wtf why give aghs to weaver' and next fight it basically won them the game


european qualifiers, the game that eliminated Alliance (don't remember which team it was)

also featuring lv1 rosh

yea it was power rangers (or hellraisers?) eliminating alliance when they were already eliminated
posting on liquid sites in current year
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 06 2015 02:33 GMT
#5065
WHOA SILENCER
Moderator
CherryNubCakes
Profile Joined July 2012
United States972 Posts
August 06 2015 02:33 GMT
#5066
On August 06 2015 11:32 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:30 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:29 Orome wrote:
While we're on aghs, sad shoutout to weaver aghs, the most broken upgrade in the game if only it was on a hero that's not weaver.

i remember seeing it in a pro game exactly once and it was glorious
it might have been that it was stolen by rubick tbh
edit: no it was in a game with an alch and the casters were like 'wtf why give aghs to weaver' and next fight it basically won them the game


Yeah I saw that game. I was actually expecting at least one or two pocket drafts at TI with an aghs weaver, but none of the teams seem interested.

Shouldn't the last letter of your username be ë?
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 06 2015 02:33 GMT
#5067
On August 06 2015 11:32 SlottedPig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:30 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:29 Orome wrote:
While we're on aghs, sad shoutout to weaver aghs, the most broken upgrade in the game if only it was on a hero that's not weaver.

i remember seeing it in a pro game exactly once and it was glorious
it might have been that it was stolen by rubick tbh
edit: no it was in a game with an alch and the casters were like 'wtf why give aghs to weaver' and next fight it basically won them the game


european qualifiers, the game that eliminated Alliance (don't remember which team it was)

also featuring lv1 rosh

PR.

But Weaver only got Aghs because Alchemist was like 1100 gpm.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
August 06 2015 02:33 GMT
#5068
First silencer outside of VP?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44161 Posts
August 06 2015 02:33 GMT
#5069
On August 06 2015 11:28 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:26 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:24 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

True, especially against illusions. In fact, picking her into illusions is bad, unless you are playing against pubstack called implosion gaming.

she gets kited/controlled more easier than gyro

also gyro has retarded bullshit to turn a 1v1 or 1v2 around

I mean, luna has even better ability to turn 1v1/1v2 around than gyro can dream of. Also, Luna is better at winning games, gyro is better at bringing lost games back.


gyro just run at people with rocket barrage and the hero doesn't even need level 6 to do so .. while luna when the ult is on cooldown can't do that also luna ult has long cooldown

yeah luna is one of the best siege +pushing hero
this is a quote
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 06 2015 02:33 GMT
#5070
shut it nerds
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
August 06 2015 02:34 GMT
#5071
SILENCE !
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 06 2015 02:34 GMT
#5072
"so many heroes i hate in this game, unbelievable"

rofl
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44161 Posts
August 06 2015 02:34 GMT
#5073
On August 06 2015 11:33 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:32 SlottedPig wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:30 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:29 Orome wrote:
While we're on aghs, sad shoutout to weaver aghs, the most broken upgrade in the game if only it was on a hero that's not weaver.

i remember seeing it in a pro game exactly once and it was glorious
it might have been that it was stolen by rubick tbh
edit: no it was in a game with an alch and the casters were like 'wtf why give aghs to weaver' and next fight it basically won them the game


european qualifiers, the game that eliminated Alliance (don't remember which team it was)

also featuring lv1 rosh

yea it was power rangers (or hellraisers?) eliminating alliance when they were already eliminated

was PR
this is a quote
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 02:34:31
August 06 2015 02:34 GMT
#5074
On August 06 2015 11:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:32 lolnoty wrote:
luna comparisons are good and all but... rocket barrage

luna does not need to chase someone closely to damage them.

damage them for less than half of barrage
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Rhayader
Profile Joined October 2012
Romania189 Posts
August 06 2015 02:34 GMT
#5075
Draft looks bad for LGD but i still trust in the Director.
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 06 2015 02:34 GMT
#5076
On August 06 2015 11:32 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:30 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:29 Orome wrote:
While we're on aghs, sad shoutout to weaver aghs, the most broken upgrade in the game if only it was on a hero that's not weaver.

i remember seeing it in a pro game exactly once and it was glorious
it might have been that it was stolen by rubick tbh
edit: no it was in a game with an alch and the casters were like 'wtf why give aghs to weaver' and next fight it basically won them the game


Yeah I saw that game. I was actually expecting at least one or two pocket drafts at TI with an aghs weaver, but none of the teams seem interested.

i think everyone forgot about it
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 06 2015 02:34 GMT
#5077
On August 06 2015 11:33 nooboon wrote:
First silencer outside of VP?


no, newbie picked it game 1 vs VG and owned them with it.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 06 2015 02:35 GMT
#5078
On August 06 2015 11:33 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:28 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:26 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:24 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

True, especially against illusions. In fact, picking her into illusions is bad, unless you are playing against pubstack called implosion gaming.

she gets kited/controlled more easier than gyro

also gyro has retarded bullshit to turn a 1v1 or 1v2 around

I mean, luna has even better ability to turn 1v1/1v2 around than gyro can dream of. Also, Luna is better at winning games, gyro is better at bringing lost games back.

Luna is snowbally, don't expect her to win if the game is even vs a stronger late game carrier, it's not like she's terrible in the late game but she does fall off in comparison to the likes of AM/PL/Spec/Tiny/Ember or even dusa.

She does not really fall off compared to AM and i can see her outmanfighting Spec and even Tiny, but PL does wreck her and she can't hope to burst Ember.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 06 2015 02:35 GMT
#5079
On August 06 2015 11:34 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:32 lolnoty wrote:
luna comparisons are good and all but... rocket barrage

luna does not need to chase someone closely to damage them.

damage them for less than half of barrage

Stuns.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 06 2015 02:35 GMT
#5080
On August 06 2015 11:34 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:32 Orome wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:30 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:29 Orome wrote:
While we're on aghs, sad shoutout to weaver aghs, the most broken upgrade in the game if only it was on a hero that's not weaver.

i remember seeing it in a pro game exactly once and it was glorious
it might have been that it was stolen by rubick tbh
edit: no it was in a game with an alch and the casters were like 'wtf why give aghs to weaver' and next fight it basically won them the game


Yeah I saw that game. I was actually expecting at least one or two pocket drafts at TI with an aghs weaver, but none of the teams seem interested.

i think everyone forgot about it

one obstacle is that weaver and alch themselves are both iffy picks
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