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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
August 06 2015 02:24 GMT
#5021
On August 06 2015 11:23 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:19 rebdomine wrote:
Poll: Recommend LGD vs. CDEC Game 1?

Yes (52)
 
95%

If you have time (1)
 
2%

No (2)
 
4%

55 total votes

Your vote: Recommend LGD vs. CDEC Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No


WHO

Azarkon's revenge on China.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
August 06 2015 02:24 GMT
#5022
How do you say anything about a player if they don't get KDA stats?

#NahazProblems
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 06 2015 02:24 GMT
#5023
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

True, especially against illusions. In fact, picking her into illusions is bad, unless you are playing against pubstack called implosion gaming.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 06 2015 02:24 GMT
#5024
On August 06 2015 11:24 EmilA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:23 TheNewEra wrote:
Icystorage. Now that complexity is out of TI...
Liquid'Fly
Liquid'Notail ?


Now we just need to find 3 more that are ready to retire and go half time and we got ourselves a real liquid roster

black fata bulba SHIP IT
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
August 06 2015 02:25 GMT
#5025
If EG doesn't crumble here, things are looking pretty dang good for them this year.

On the other hand...everybody else who looked good this year is crumbling, soooo.....
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
August 06 2015 02:25 GMT
#5026
CDEC is Arthas and LGD is Terenas, ez

"What are you doing, my son?"
"Succeeding you, father."
rip
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 06 2015 02:25 GMT
#5027
On August 06 2015 11:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
guys whats up with cdec i heard from a prominent expert on chinese weakness that china has no depth/scene growth


did he also say c9/empire were a top 3 team?
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 06 2015 02:25 GMT
#5028
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

she suffers in smaller skirmishes that are near creeps (neutral and lane creeps too) but its pretty easy to play around that

but it makes her worse at tower defense, that's one issue
posting on liquid sites in current year
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 06 2015 02:25 GMT
#5029
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

less capable of aggro plays in the early stages, faster ramping up, much worse late game
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44274 Posts
August 06 2015 02:26 GMT
#5030
On August 06 2015 11:24 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

True, especially against illusions. In fact, picking her into illusions is bad, unless you are playing against pubstack called implosion gaming.

she gets kited/controlled more easier than gyro

also gyro has retarded bullshit to turn a 1v1 or 1v2 around with rocket barrage

On August 06 2015 11:18 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:18 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore

SF is a good hero .. although not a good hero against PL

On August 06 2015 11:16 Rhayader wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:15 lolnoty wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:14 Rhayader wrote:
I'm angry.

LGD gave birth to CDEC though it's like watching your child grow up


More like nurturing and caring for your child only to watch him grow up and fuck you in the arse.

sounds like standard feudal age bullshit or whatever that's called

Very ancient mythology tier with all the incest and patricide.

we just need the incest part all we get is particide
this is a quote
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 06 2015 02:26 GMT
#5031
Lol, draft got meta quickly.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 06 2015 02:26 GMT
#5032
On August 06 2015 11:23 TheNewEra wrote:
Icystorage. Now that complexity is out of TI...
Liquid'Fly
Liquid'Notail ?

idk about fly but notail yes please.
Liquid`Black
Liquid`Envy
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
August 06 2015 02:26 GMT
#5033
On August 06 2015 11:25 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
guys whats up with cdec i heard from a prominent expert on chinese weakness that china has no depth/scene growth


did he also say c9/empire were a top 3 team?

... and that MVP is suddenly a top team that can only be stopped by Secret anymore?
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 06 2015 02:26 GMT
#5034
Ooooh Maybe's Ember <3
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 06 2015 02:26 GMT
#5035
On August 06 2015 11:24 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

True, especially against illusions. In fact, picking her into illusions is bad, unless you are playing against pubstack called implosion gaming.

people think glaives makes her good at 5v5 but their strength really comes from bouncing back and hitting targets multiple times
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
August 06 2015 02:26 GMT
#5036
On August 06 2015 11:25 TomatoBisque wrote:
CDEC is Arthas and LGD is Terenas, ez

"What are you doing, my son?"
"Succeeding you, father."


10/10
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
August 06 2015 02:27 GMT
#5037
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights


she's not close to as good at fighting before she gets items

rocket barrage and calldown are just so much better than lucent beam and eclipse
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
August 06 2015 02:27 GMT
#5038
On August 06 2015 11:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

she suffers in smaller skirmishes that are near creeps (neutral and lane creeps too) but its pretty easy to play around that

but it makes her worse at tower defense, that's one issue


Being able to place Calldown is pretty huge though (vs Luna's PBAOE). It gives it way more utility as a zoning spell even if you don't expect as much dmg from it.
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beifru
Profile Joined November 2013
2164 Posts
August 06 2015 02:27 GMT
#5039
On August 06 2015 11:25 ASoo wrote:
If EG doesn't crumble here, things are looking pretty dang good for them this year.

On the other hand...everybody else who looked good this year is crumbling, soooo.....


Hard to tell. EG looked pretty damn good last year as well.

Then they suddenly dropped 2 series into third place... EG has also not played a Chinese team in the playoffs so far. EG is actually the Western killer this year rofl.
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 06 2015 02:27 GMT
#5040
On August 06 2015 11:26 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:24 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

True, especially against illusions. In fact, picking her into illusions is bad, unless you are playing against pubstack called implosion gaming.

she gets kited/controlled more easier than gyro

also gyro has retarded bullshit to turn a 1v1 or 1v2 around with rocket barrage

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:18 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:18 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore

SF is a good hero .. although not a good hero against PL

On August 06 2015 11:16 Rhayader wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:15 lolnoty wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:14 Rhayader wrote:
I'm angry.

LGD gave birth to CDEC though it's like watching your child grow up


More like nurturing and caring for your child only to watch him grow up and fuck you in the arse.

sounds like standard feudal age bullshit or whatever that's called

Very ancient mythology tier with all the incest and patricide.

we just need the incest part all we get is particide

pretty sure luna does decent 1v1 and 1v2 past level 6 at least
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
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