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Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
August 06 2015 02:28 GMT
#5041
Pls let aggresif play slardar again
Saw it in group stage
Such a beauty
-Terran-
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 06 2015 02:28 GMT
#5042
On August 06 2015 11:27 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

she suffers in smaller skirmishes that are near creeps (neutral and lane creeps too) but its pretty easy to play around that

but it makes her worse at tower defense, that's one issue


Being able to place Calldown is pretty huge though (vs Luna's PBAOE). It gives it way more utility as a zoning spell even if you don't expect as much dmg from it.

thats what luna's aghs its for it'sso fucking good, 2000 cast range, gives 600 radius flying vision if cast on the ground, what a fucking aghs
posting on liquid sites in current year
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 06 2015 02:28 GMT
#5043
On August 06 2015 11:28 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:27 Logo wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

she suffers in smaller skirmishes that are near creeps (neutral and lane creeps too) but its pretty easy to play around that

but it makes her worse at tower defense, that's one issue


Being able to place Calldown is pretty huge though (vs Luna's PBAOE). It gives it way more utility as a zoning spell even if you don't expect as much dmg from it.

thats what luna's aghs its for it'sso fucking good, 2000 cast range, gives 600 radius flying vision if cast on the ground, what a fucking aghs

its enver gonna happen
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 06 2015 02:28 GMT
#5044
On August 06 2015 11:27 beifru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:25 ASoo wrote:
If EG doesn't crumble here, things are looking pretty dang good for them this year.

On the other hand...everybody else who looked good this year is crumbling, soooo.....


Hard to tell. EG looked pretty damn good last year as well.

Then they suddenly dropped 2 series into third place... EG has also not played a Chinese team in the playoffs so far. EG is actually the Western killer this year rofl.

I think it's reassuring that group B is dominating so far, and EG looked good against all the teams. I think their 1 EHOME loss was the most convincing that the other team just played better, so the next series will be spooky.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 06 2015 02:28 GMT
#5045
On August 06 2015 11:26 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:24 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

True, especially against illusions. In fact, picking her into illusions is bad, unless you are playing against pubstack called implosion gaming.

she gets kited/controlled more easier than gyro

also gyro has retarded bullshit to turn a 1v1 or 1v2 around

I mean, luna has even better ability to turn 1v1/1v2 around than gyro can dream of. Also, Luna is better at winning games, gyro is better at bringing lost games back.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
August 06 2015 02:29 GMT
#5046
On August 06 2015 11:28 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:27 Logo wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

she suffers in smaller skirmishes that are near creeps (neutral and lane creeps too) but its pretty easy to play around that

but it makes her worse at tower defense, that's one issue


Being able to place Calldown is pretty huge though (vs Luna's PBAOE). It gives it way more utility as a zoning spell even if you don't expect as much dmg from it.

thats what luna's aghs its for it'sso fucking good, 2000 cast range, gives 600 radius flying vision if cast on the ground, what a fucking aghs


I'd love to see that in comp with a physical dmg mid (like SF or Ember).
Logo
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
August 06 2015 02:29 GMT
#5047
While we're on aghs, sad shoutout to weaver aghs, the most broken upgrade in the game if only it was on a hero that's not weaver.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
beifru
Profile Joined November 2013
2164 Posts
August 06 2015 02:30 GMT
#5048
On August 06 2015 11:28 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:27 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:25 ASoo wrote:
If EG doesn't crumble here, things are looking pretty dang good for them this year.

On the other hand...everybody else who looked good this year is crumbling, soooo.....


Hard to tell. EG looked pretty damn good last year as well.

Then they suddenly dropped 2 series into third place... EG has also not played a Chinese team in the playoffs so far. EG is actually the Western killer this year rofl.

I think it's reassuring that group B is dominating so far, and EG looked good against all the teams. I think their 1 EHOME loss was the most convincing that the other team just played better, so the next series will be spooky.


Yeah its pretty funny how everyone said that Group A was the group of death.

Its only true in the sense that Group A so far has been dying in the playoffs.
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
August 06 2015 02:30 GMT
#5049
rai'jin v xin...the gods are good to us today
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 02:31:41
August 06 2015 02:30 GMT
#5050
On August 06 2015 11:29 Orome wrote:
While we're on aghs, sad shoutout to weaver aghs, the most broken upgrade in the game if only it was on a hero that's not weaver.

i remember seeing it in a pro game exactly once and it was glorious
it might have been that it was stolen by rubick tbh
edit: no it was in a game with an alch and the casters were like 'wtf why give aghs to weaver' and next fight it basically won them the game
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
August 06 2015 02:31 GMT
#5051
On August 06 2015 11:28 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:28 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:27 Logo wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

she suffers in smaller skirmishes that are near creeps (neutral and lane creeps too) but its pretty easy to play around that

but it makes her worse at tower defense, that's one issue


Being able to place Calldown is pretty huge though (vs Luna's PBAOE). It gives it way more utility as a zoning spell even if you don't expect as much dmg from it.

thats what luna's aghs its for it'sso fucking good, 2000 cast range, gives 600 radius flying vision if cast on the ground, what a fucking aghs

its enver gonna happen

rtz picked up aghs

On August 06 2015 11:27 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:26 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:24 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

True, especially against illusions. In fact, picking her into illusions is bad, unless you are playing against pubstack called implosion gaming.

she gets kited/controlled more easier than gyro

also gyro has retarded bullshit to turn a 1v1 or 1v2 around with rocket barrage

On August 06 2015 11:18 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:18 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore

SF is a good hero .. although not a good hero against PL

On August 06 2015 11:16 Rhayader wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:15 lolnoty wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:14 Rhayader wrote:
I'm angry.

LGD gave birth to CDEC though it's like watching your child grow up


More like nurturing and caring for your child only to watch him grow up and fuck you in the arse.

sounds like standard feudal age bullshit or whatever that's called

Very ancient mythology tier with all the incest and patricide.

we just need the incest part all we get is particide

pretty sure luna does decent 1v1 and 1v2 past level 6 at least


gyro does better though .. like there's so many situation where gyro can just kill somebody in around a few seconds
this is a quote
druk_qs
Profile Joined April 2015
Venezuela44 Posts
August 06 2015 02:31 GMT
#5052
On August 06 2015 11:24 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:22 goody153 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:20 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 11:16 Nocticate wrote:
why are teams even picking sf anymore


The real question is... why are teams picking luna again.

It's like a weaker PL that can join teamfights earlier, but loses to Gyro in that aspect.

Luna is better gyro.

i find gyro more flexible than luna

Real talk tho, Luna is much better at manfighting and killing base than gyro. In fact, i find her better at farming as well.

she's as good or better at everything but 5v5 teamfights

Which is probably why she's less sought after than Gyro since this meta encourages lots of midgame fighting and Gyro can fight earlier than she can and is never better at 5v5 than him
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 06 2015 02:31 GMT
#5053
SK! :D
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
August 06 2015 02:31 GMT
#5054
I remember someone in our inhouses once got Weaver Aghs but didn't understand how to cast it properly on teammates or something so it was a failure.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
yookstah
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia655 Posts
August 06 2015 02:32 GMT
#5055
Maybe Ember. hooo boy here we go
"I'm saying that you are all the time aggressive. I say to you choose situations to be aggressive and not aggressive. I'm talking it" - Cooller
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 06 2015 02:32 GMT
#5056
luna comparisons are good and all but... rocket barrage
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 06 2015 02:32 GMT
#5057
Ohohohoh.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
KRaver
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1264 Posts
August 06 2015 02:32 GMT
#5058
too greedy LGD
Duo Maxwell: If you're joking that's just cruel, but if you're being sarcastic, that's even worse.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 06 2015 02:32 GMT
#5059
On August 06 2015 11:31 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I remember someone in our inhouses once got Weaver Aghs but didn't understand how to cast it properly on teammates or something so it was a failure.

yea i think i remember that game he just kept forgetting that when using it on himself he had to click himself so he died 2x
posting on liquid sites in current year
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
August 06 2015 02:32 GMT
#5060
On August 06 2015 11:30 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:29 Orome wrote:
While we're on aghs, sad shoutout to weaver aghs, the most broken upgrade in the game if only it was on a hero that's not weaver.

i remember seeing it in a pro game exactly once and it was glorious
it might have been that it was stolen by rubick tbh
edit: no it was in a game with an alch and the casters were like 'wtf why give aghs to weaver' and next fight it basically won them the game


Yeah I saw that game. I was actually expecting at least one or two pocket drafts at TI with an aghs weaver, but none of the teams seem interested.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
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