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beifru
Profile Joined November 2013
2164 Posts
August 04 2015 19:09 GMT
#1041
On August 05 2015 04:07 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:06 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:03 lolnoty wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:01 beifru wrote:
If Clinkz went for the old school Orchid and QOP got a second item Hex, COL would still be in the running.

Clinkz could have hunted AM with clock with an early Orchid. Sigh man the itemization. Did they not know they drafted a close to nil lockdown lineup?

right now they're going for items to kill AM before the WW/Naga helps, or during it. If they didn't get aghs/deso/medallion that gives the WW and Naga much easier time to respond and press buttons ruining any kill attempt


Trying to instagib AM is a legit idea, if they were gonna force the issue; not if they allow EG to split the map.

The deso is pretty useless thus far; they even took rosh without the help of the deso.

Deso is the standard for Clinkz. You murder towers and the rest of EG. Qop needed hex, not the core.


Tbh, their lineup already murders towers and rosh. Just because deso is standard for Clinkz in the current meta does not mean it is the best item in this scenario. Itemization separates the top tier carries from their peers.
bootsmann
Profile Joined August 2015
Switzerland15 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 19:09:38
August 04 2015 19:09 GMT
#1042
On August 05 2015 04:06 zzdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:05 bootsmann wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:04 DucK- wrote:


Exactly. Pro players and their itemisation.


Sure being able to ult every creepwave from a safe distance sounds pretty bad

That's what Aghs is for


aghs cd is 10 seconds too long, but i agree in this game, where you want to be pushing, getting an octarine is not as good of an idea compared to smt like hex
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
August 04 2015 19:09 GMT
#1043
I'd like to lead everyone in a round of Proud to be an American
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66170 Posts
August 04 2015 19:09 GMT
#1044
sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
POGGERS
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6296 Posts
August 04 2015 19:09 GMT
#1045
So.... this is fun
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 04 2015 19:09 GMT
#1046
On August 05 2015 04:09 FHDH wrote:
I'd like to lead everyone in a round of Proud to be an American

I'm fine without, thanks!
kiss kiss fall in love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 04 2015 19:09 GMT
#1047
On August 05 2015 04:08 Mensol wrote:
This TI is such a joke.

I cant even enjoy the games due to the problems at venue. fix your shit, valve.

Its likely a comcast outage in the city. There is only so much they can do about that. Or shut off DotaTV.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 19:09 GMT
#1048
On August 05 2015 04:09 absinthfee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:06 absinthfee wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:02 Plansix wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:01 beifru wrote:
If Clinkz went for the old school Orchid and QOP got a second item Hex, COL would still be in the running.

Clinkz could have hunted AM with clock with an early Orchid. Sigh man the itemization. Did they not know they drafted a close to nil lockdown lineup?

Orchid takes longer to get active and EG will have more time to farm.

And leaves AM to absolutely free farm since they can't catch him at all.

Then AM gets manta before vlads and laughs at col.

Manta does not cost 2300 gold and at least the threat is there. Instead col now has to rely on miracle to kill Fear.


Without vlads manta has a similar timing to the orchid from clinkz.

Fear had 16 minute bf. Honestly, if clinkz just went treads-sr-orchid, he would still do fine in Fear hunting while having same timing of orchid as fear had timing of bf.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
August 04 2015 19:09 GMT
#1049
On August 05 2015 04:09 beifru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:07 Plansix wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:06 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:03 lolnoty wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:01 beifru wrote:
If Clinkz went for the old school Orchid and QOP got a second item Hex, COL would still be in the running.

Clinkz could have hunted AM with clock with an early Orchid. Sigh man the itemization. Did they not know they drafted a close to nil lockdown lineup?

right now they're going for items to kill AM before the WW/Naga helps, or during it. If they didn't get aghs/deso/medallion that gives the WW and Naga much easier time to respond and press buttons ruining any kill attempt


Trying to instagib AM is a legit idea, if they were gonna force the issue; not if they allow EG to split the map.

The deso is pretty useless thus far; they even took rosh without the help of the deso.

Deso is the standard for Clinkz. You murder towers and the rest of EG. Qop needed hex, not the core.


Tbh, their lineup already murders towers and rosh. Just because deso is standard for Clinkz in the current meta does not mean it is the best item in this scenario. Itemization separates the top tier carries from their peers.

Decision making separates the top tier carries from their peers as can be seen by fear, by not dying at all this game.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
August 04 2015 19:10 GMT
#1050
where are the USA chants now guys

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 19:11:16
August 04 2015 19:10 GMT
#1051
On August 05 2015 04:09 FHDH wrote:
I'd like to lead everyone in a round of Proud to be an American

I could do that too, but I am just not part of that America. You know, the south part is kinda not America, don't know why tho.

On August 05 2015 04:10 Faruko wrote:
where are the USA chants now guys


Lagging!
absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
August 04 2015 19:10 GMT
#1052
On August 05 2015 04:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:09 absinthfee wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:06 absinthfee wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:02 Plansix wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:01 beifru wrote:
If Clinkz went for the old school Orchid and QOP got a second item Hex, COL would still be in the running.

Clinkz could have hunted AM with clock with an early Orchid. Sigh man the itemization. Did they not know they drafted a close to nil lockdown lineup?

Orchid takes longer to get active and EG will have more time to farm.

And leaves AM to absolutely free farm since they can't catch him at all.

Then AM gets manta before vlads and laughs at col.

Manta does not cost 2300 gold and at least the threat is there. Instead col now has to rely on miracle to kill Fear.


Without vlads manta has a similar timing to the orchid from clinkz.

Fear had 16 minute bf. Honestly, if clinkz just went treads-sr-orchid, he would still do fine in Fear hunting while having same timing of orchid as fear had timing of bf.

Then they dont get the early rosh and are in a worse position anyways. Also his farm was also delayed by the hard lane he got.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 04 2015 19:10 GMT
#1053
On August 05 2015 04:10 Faruko wrote:
where are the USA chants now guys


USA is not proud of our internet service providers. That's probably Canada's fault or something
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
August 04 2015 19:10 GMT
#1054
Hmmm, now that I think about it this is a great time to fuck that game and start catching up on the group stage games that I missed.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 19:11 GMT
#1055
On August 05 2015 04:09 absinthfee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:09 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:07 Plansix wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:06 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:03 lolnoty wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:01 beifru wrote:
If Clinkz went for the old school Orchid and QOP got a second item Hex, COL would still be in the running.

Clinkz could have hunted AM with clock with an early Orchid. Sigh man the itemization. Did they not know they drafted a close to nil lockdown lineup?

right now they're going for items to kill AM before the WW/Naga helps, or during it. If they didn't get aghs/deso/medallion that gives the WW and Naga much easier time to respond and press buttons ruining any kill attempt


Trying to instagib AM is a legit idea, if they were gonna force the issue; not if they allow EG to split the map.

The deso is pretty useless thus far; they even took rosh without the help of the deso.

Deso is the standard for Clinkz. You murder towers and the rest of EG. Qop needed hex, not the core.


Tbh, their lineup already murders towers and rosh. Just because deso is standard for Clinkz in the current meta does not mean it is the best item in this scenario. Itemization separates the top tier carries from their peers.

Decision making separates the top tier carries from their peers as can be seen by fear, by not dying at all this game.


Even Xboct would not die against line-up of col with such itemization with the way they laced out their farm priority.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
August 04 2015 19:11 GMT
#1056
2+ hours of stream, 20 mins of gameplay...
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9562 Posts
August 04 2015 19:11 GMT
#1057
The length of this pause ... zzz
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 04 2015 19:11 GMT
#1058
So Comcast is actually worse than everybody says they are?
Neosteel Enthusiast
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6296 Posts
August 04 2015 19:11 GMT
#1059
On August 05 2015 04:10 Faruko wrote:
where are the USA chants now guys


On pause
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 04 2015 19:11 GMT
#1060
Worst TI ever aye?
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
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