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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 05:06 GMT
#6681
On August 04 2015 14:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 14:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 04 2015 14:02 ZeaL. wrote:
doesn't trust kecik to time song->requiem/LSA/vacuum

You are not supposed to time it, you just ask him to not end the song prematurely and time it yourself.

kecik is on the sf, mushi is on naga

sudden role switch again; i thought this iteration was better anyhow

I mean i was explaining that you don't have to trust into kecik's execution, you just need to trust into lack of execution whatsoever.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
August 04 2015 05:06 GMT
#6682
Let's go FNATIC!!
skipshentaiscenes
Profile Joined August 2014
Indonesia129 Posts
August 04 2015 05:06 GMT
#6683
On August 04 2015 14:05 SleepyDreams wrote:
Bo1 elimination match and mushi put his faith in his prodigy.


animu storyline right here
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 04 2015 05:06 GMT
#6684
On August 04 2015 14:02 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 14:01 DV G wrote:
So I have this problem when I really like this Meta, I like how teams play it and most of the aspects of it.

YET i hate that most of the drafts are MEGA-STATIC and have the same 20 heroes being picked or banned over and over, I know people hated TI4 for its meta, but in terms of heroes, it had more variety, I dont know, just my feeling.

Also, fuck techies


I hear you, I personally liked Void/Skywrath more than Gyro/Dazzle, but that's just me.

Death Prophet and Razor can die in a fire though


High level creativity and high level play comes from Static metas/openings. Better teams can either win 50-50 drafts or they understand something that other teams don't even though they have all looked at the same games for a long time.

Quality games don't come from randomness. There will be pocket strats when people need them.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 05:07:54
August 04 2015 05:06 GMT
#6685
On August 04 2015 14:05 shad2810 wrote:

Radiant Fnatic --- Dire VP
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*there isn't any winter wyvern inside the tldraft.


Yea there is. Though you have to switch to the larger portrait to make things line up.

[image loading]

edit: Sorry misread. Wyvern and Brood aren't on the drop down list.
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
August 04 2015 05:07 GMT
#6686
On August 04 2015 14:05 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 14:00 IshinShishi wrote:
On August 04 2015 13:59 BluemoonSC wrote:
On August 04 2015 13:52 anonymitylol wrote:
On August 04 2015 13:49 BluemoonSC wrote:
I feel like none of you guys have played an Intel carry vs sf + Luna + qop nor do you think about the sheer dmg output.

Lina actually melts if she tries to man up against them.

The reason he was in the side lane is bc his only chance at killing anything past like 30 minutes would be if he caught a support solo.

Navi had a burst mage lineup that didn't snowball as hard as they should have, that's when you have to resort to plan b.


he had plenty of time to farm up aghs/sheep/bloodstone and kind of uhhh... didn't

navi wasn't behind for most of the game, dendi won mid, and he built the hero like an idiot


?

Euls blink is Lina's bread and butter, I'm not sure where you get that from.

I don't think you and I were watching the same game.

It is if you are playing a pub.


Ok yeah you're not watching the same games as the rest of us.

Not that I needed confirmation, but if you look at that several ti games that have a lina, she gets a euls. Blink is of course optional but ideal if you have heroes that can blink on you.


is anybody saying he shouldn't have built the euls? are you even reading these replies or what

he stopped farming and did nothing for 30 minutes instead of using the space that xbox and sonneiko were making to farm a sheep and octarine so he could actually do something
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 04 2015 05:07 GMT
#6687
On August 04 2015 14:05 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 14:02 stuchiu wrote:
On August 04 2015 14:01 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Oh shit, Mushi went back to support.


If only xtinct and net were here


I think this is the right move. Mushi was better in the 4 slot than Kecik ever was, and Kecik is a great mid.


considering how support play was what was killing them through the group stages, makes sense.
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SleepyDreams
Profile Joined July 2012
600 Posts
August 04 2015 05:07 GMT
#6688
Next level share control? Maybe it's mushi and Kecik both playing SF?
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
August 04 2015 05:08 GMT
#6689
fng get some exp man
ffxiv enjoyer
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 05:08 GMT
#6690
On August 04 2015 14:07 SleepyDreams wrote:
Next level share control? Maybe it's mushi and Kecik both playing SF?

Mushi should just stick to doing 4 stacks at a time.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
August 04 2015 05:08 GMT
#6691
i would not share control with mushi if i wanted to win
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lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 04 2015 05:08 GMT
#6692
On August 04 2015 14:07 SleepyDreams wrote:
Next level share control? Maybe it's mushi and Kecik both playing SF?

why on earth would anyone do that
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 04 2015 05:08 GMT
#6693
On August 04 2015 14:07 SleepyDreams wrote:
Next level share control? Maybe it's mushi and Kecik both playing SF?

sick mindgames
:)
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 04 2015 05:08 GMT
#6694
On August 04 2015 14:04 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 14:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 04 2015 14:02 IshinShishi wrote:
you can't carry a 0/7/0 brick, artstyle is probably an amazing captain but you can't justify his atrocious play with that.

Dazzle in general is not famous for good KDA.

still, this is extreme, actually he wasn't seen once in the game except feeding out of position. Obviously graving himself at the end was the insult on top of injury.


If he didn't grave himself he would have been dead already when the other heroes for there in that fight. VG had to expend some more resources already because of the grave.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
August 04 2015 05:09 GMT
#6695
On August 04 2015 14:07 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 14:05 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 04 2015 14:02 stuchiu wrote:
On August 04 2015 14:01 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Oh shit, Mushi went back to support.


If only xtinct and net were here


I think this is the right move. Mushi was better in the 4 slot than Kecik ever was, and Kecik is a great mid.


considering how support play was what was killing them through the group stages, makes sense.

yeah

shame they switched it up ... there wasn't really any real issue on the Kecik mid
this is a quote
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
August 04 2015 05:09 GMT
#6696
On August 04 2015 14:07 anonymitylol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 14:05 BluemoonSC wrote:
On August 04 2015 14:00 IshinShishi wrote:
On August 04 2015 13:59 BluemoonSC wrote:
On August 04 2015 13:52 anonymitylol wrote:
On August 04 2015 13:49 BluemoonSC wrote:
I feel like none of you guys have played an Intel carry vs sf + Luna + qop nor do you think about the sheer dmg output.

Lina actually melts if she tries to man up against them.

The reason he was in the side lane is bc his only chance at killing anything past like 30 minutes would be if he caught a support solo.

Navi had a burst mage lineup that didn't snowball as hard as they should have, that's when you have to resort to plan b.


he had plenty of time to farm up aghs/sheep/bloodstone and kind of uhhh... didn't

navi wasn't behind for most of the game, dendi won mid, and he built the hero like an idiot


?

Euls blink is Lina's bread and butter, I'm not sure where you get that from.

I don't think you and I were watching the same game.

It is if you are playing a pub.


Ok yeah you're not watching the same games as the rest of us.

Not that I needed confirmation, but if you look at that several ti games that have a lina, she gets a euls. Blink is of course optional but ideal if you have heroes that can blink on you.


is anybody saying he shouldn't have built the euls? are you even reading these replies or what

he stopped farming and did nothing for 30 minutes instead of using the space that xbox and sonneiko were making to farm a sheep and octarine so he could actually do something


Probably not reading.

Dendi even bought BoTs after Blink and had a casual Point Booster. He had Euls SO early too it's amazing he just simply stopped apparently doing anything.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
August 04 2015 05:09 GMT
#6697
On August 04 2015 14:07 anonymitylol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 14:05 BluemoonSC wrote:
On August 04 2015 14:00 IshinShishi wrote:
On August 04 2015 13:59 BluemoonSC wrote:
On August 04 2015 13:52 anonymitylol wrote:
On August 04 2015 13:49 BluemoonSC wrote:
I feel like none of you guys have played an Intel carry vs sf + Luna + qop nor do you think about the sheer dmg output.

Lina actually melts if she tries to man up against them.

The reason he was in the side lane is bc his only chance at killing anything past like 30 minutes would be if he caught a support solo.

Navi had a burst mage lineup that didn't snowball as hard as they should have, that's when you have to resort to plan b.


he had plenty of time to farm up aghs/sheep/bloodstone and kind of uhhh... didn't

navi wasn't behind for most of the game, dendi won mid, and he built the hero like an idiot


?

Euls blink is Lina's bread and butter, I'm not sure where you get that from.

I don't think you and I were watching the same game.

It is if you are playing a pub.


Ok yeah you're not watching the same games as the rest of us.

Not that I needed confirmation, but if you look at that several ti games that have a lina, she gets a euls. Blink is of course optional but ideal if you have heroes that can blink on you.


is anybody saying he shouldn't have built the euls? are you even reading these replies or what

he stopped farming and did nothing for 30 minutes instead of using the space that xbox and sonneiko were making to farm a sheep and octarine so he could actually do something


Did you even read the post I quoted?
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 05:09 GMT
#6698
Also, amazingly we have avoided any techies whatsoever so far. Sadly i fear this won't be the case in day 2.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
August 04 2015 05:09 GMT
#6699


All I can think about when Nahaz speaks constantly.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
August 04 2015 05:09 GMT
#6700
On August 04 2015 14:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
Also, amazingly we have avoided any techies whatsoever so far. Sadly i fear this won't be the case in day 2.


i think col, secret, and eg are only ones who picked it? so its not surprising
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