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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
February 03 2015 06:15 GMT
#1881
On February 03 2015 15:14 icystorage wrote:
Rave just needs to defeat CDEC rather than win by time rating


well the superior time rating is their ace in the hole right. Unless they get absolutely shitstomped by CDEC, even if they lose, they'll likely win on time
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
February 03 2015 06:16 GMT
#1882
Is there a better solution than time rating here?
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
February 03 2015 06:17 GMT
#1883
Time to see some crazy push strat.
SleepyDreams
Profile Joined July 2012
600 Posts
February 03 2015 06:17 GMT
#1884
WHY DID TONGFU GG EARLY?

Do they not understand how time rating works? Why did they put their countrymen (CDEC) at a disadvantage?
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
February 03 2015 06:17 GMT
#1885
That struggle with mental math.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
February 03 2015 06:17 GMT
#1886
On February 03 2015 15:16 Kishin2 wrote:
Is there a better solution than time rating here?

5v5v5 keyboard-smashing brawl
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 06:21:25
February 03 2015 06:19 GMT
#1887
Math is hard.

TF = 34-38 = -4
CDEC = 38-X
Rave = X-34

For CDEC to win the tiebreakers, they have to win faster than 72/2=36.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
February 03 2015 06:20 GMT
#1888
On February 03 2015 14:22 drew-chan wrote:
Have DAC confirmed the use of time ratings?

I missed this post. I'm not sure if they have but I have access to a channel where BTS gives out information, and they've said that it's time rating.
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 03 2015 06:21 GMT
#1889
On February 03 2015 15:19 Azarkon wrote:
Math is hard.

TF = 34-38 = -4
CDEC = 38-X
Rave = X-38

For CDEC to win the tiebreakers, they have to win faster than 38.


Rave won with 34.

For CDEC to win they have to win faster than ~36.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 06:22:00
February 03 2015 06:21 GMT
#1890
On February 03 2015 15:19 Azarkon wrote:
Math is hard.

TF = 34-38 = -4
CDEC = 38-X
Rave = X-38

For CDEC to win the tiebreakers, they have to win faster than 38.

I thought 34? Don't think head to head mattered at this point.

Edit; Nvm, I had no idea how this time rating work
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 06:25:12
February 03 2015 06:21 GMT
#1891
Math IS hard.

Corrected. Yes, H2H doesn't matter, only lowest does, but in this case I simply wrote the wrong win time for Rave.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
February 03 2015 06:22 GMT
#1892
I wont forget how Alliance managed to win <30 mins to win tie breakers last year or 2. that was pretty clutch
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
February 03 2015 06:24 GMT
#1893
Tiebreakers decided by game time?

Isn't that kinda lame?
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 06:25:26
February 03 2015 06:25 GMT
#1894
On February 03 2015 15:24 trinxified wrote:
Tiebreakers decided by game time?

Isn't that kinda lame?

Not when they're already in the second round of tie breakers.

And that's only if CDEC wins and forces another 3-way tie.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 06:32:26
February 03 2015 06:30 GMT
#1895
Maybe they could go by fantasy points. Fantasy points / min,
drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
February 03 2015 06:32 GMT
#1896
Could we see Lesh for a pushing strat, bringing the unique heroes count up?
...
bludragen88
Profile Joined August 2008
United States527 Posts
February 03 2015 06:32 GMT
#1897
On February 03 2015 15:17 SleepyDreams wrote:
WHY DID TONGFU GG EARLY?

Do they not understand how time rating works? Why did they put their countrymen (CDEC) at a disadvantage?


You say that as if they owe anything to their countrymen. I can see struggling when you still have a chance at making it (like the first game actually ending with the throne falling), but there was no way the throne was going to be up for more than 1 more minute, so they were 100% out at that point.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
February 03 2015 06:32 GMT
#1898
Just to make it clear, the game time was actually 34:40, not 34 flat. Not likely to be an important difference, though.
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 03 2015 06:32 GMT
#1899
UNDER 36 SECONDS
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 06:33:55
February 03 2015 06:33 GMT
#1900
On February 03 2015 15:32 Elyvilon wrote:
Just to make it clear, the game time was actually 34:40, not 34 flat. Not likely to be an important difference, though.

TongFu's wasn't 38 flat either.

EDIT: LOL FIRST BAN KOTL
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