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Kheve
Profile Joined May 2013
323 Posts
January 30 2015 14:48 GMT
#1341
Cdec might have won the base race if they went straight throne. Nevertheless i wasnt expecting cdec to push secret this close.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 30 2015 14:48 GMT
#1342
On January 30 2015 23:47 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 23:46 Oddball28 wrote:
Secret clearly with the better decision making that game, it showed in the end here aswell. The experience on the players showed here.


What are you talking about. Secret cocked up so badly at the end. They only managed to win because of what they did 15 minutes prior to that.

It does not change they had overall a way better decision making and it was the deciding factor.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 30 2015 14:48 GMT
#1343
On January 30 2015 23:47 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 23:46 Oddball28 wrote:
Secret clearly with the better decision making that game, it showed in the end here aswell. The experience on the players showed here.


What are you talking about. Secret cocked up so badly at the end. They only managed to win because of what they did 15 minutes prior to that.

The decision to get the rax probably lost cdec the game.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Beirut
Profile Joined January 2011
United States673 Posts
January 30 2015 14:48 GMT
#1344
On January 30 2015 23:47 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 23:46 Oddball28 wrote:
Secret clearly with the better decision making that game, it showed in the end here aswell. The experience on the players showed here.


What are you talking about. Secret cocked up so badly at the end. They only managed to win because of what they did 15 minutes prior to that.


I think he's referring to the fact that CDEC could've probably probably just hit the throne and won the game instead of fucking around with the rax for 15 seconds.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
January 30 2015 14:48 GMT
#1345
i need to rewatch that last fight in HD with sound when i get home
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 14:49:00
January 30 2015 14:48 GMT
#1346
Secret almost threw that, they took some huge risk fights mid that they shouldnt have done, the long game favours them by so much because they have way more oppertunities to safely take megas.

But yes CDEC fucked up, coulda won that if they just throned.
WriterXiao8~~
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 30 2015 14:48 GMT
#1347
So far this was the closest Secret was at losing, right?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ncsix
Profile Joined February 2012
1370 Posts
January 30 2015 14:49 GMT
#1348
sick game Secret vs CDEC, well played both? MVP Jugg. and wolf rat lycan
Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 14:50:30
January 30 2015 14:49 GMT
#1349
On January 30 2015 23:47 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 23:46 Oddball28 wrote:
Secret clearly with the better decision making that game, it showed in the end here aswell. The experience on the players showed here.


What are you talking about. Secret cocked up so badly at the end. They only managed to win because of what they did 15 minutes prior to that.


No. They managed to win that because they knew, that they could only win that by getting the megas and base racing it. CDEC decided they wanted to take down the mid rax in the midst of the end, which delayed their throne push by a big margin. So what are you talking about?

They managed to win because CDEC fluked. CDEC was so far up at one point, that Secret never should've come back. But CDEC does not have near the discipline and experience in their play. They got caught out multiple times after that which allowed Arteezy to get back in the game.
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 30 2015 14:49 GMT
#1350
On January 30 2015 23:48 Beirut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 23:47 Numy wrote:
On January 30 2015 23:46 Oddball28 wrote:
Secret clearly with the better decision making that game, it showed in the end here aswell. The experience on the players showed here.


What are you talking about. Secret cocked up so badly at the end. They only managed to win because of what they did 15 minutes prior to that.


I think he's referring to the fact that CDEC could've probably probably just hit the throne and won the game instead of fucking around with the rax for 15 seconds.


Oh I see. Yea that was incredibly dumb by CDEC but I don't think Secret had that much better decision making either. Think both teams really showed poor decision making that game at the end.
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
January 30 2015 14:49 GMT
#1351
On January 30 2015 23:49 ncsix wrote:
sick game Secret vs CDEC, well played both? MVP Jugg. and wolf rat lycan


Secret played like shit after taking the first pair of rax
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
January 30 2015 14:50 GMT
#1352
rofl. Liquid almost lost that
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noire
Profile Joined July 2012
Turkey213 Posts
January 30 2015 14:50 GMT
#1353
go go EG
İstanbul
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
January 30 2015 14:50 GMT
#1354
Zai really plays amazing on the offlane holy shit. I was worried he was gonna be another EGM story but he is really playing well even in the games where Secret are in a tough spot. Also the game against HR he really carried Secret.
@Munck
beifru
Profile Joined November 2013
2164 Posts
January 30 2015 14:50 GMT
#1355
Funny thing is CDEC handed the game over to Secret on a silver platter with the throws at bottom.

Then when they manage to wrestle control back from Secret, they derped around Secret's base and ignored throne. If thats not awful I don't know what is.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 30 2015 14:50 GMT
#1356
On January 30 2015 23:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
So far this was the closest Secret was at losing, right?

This is the only game secret has had that was competitive. All the others were stamps.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 30 2015 14:50 GMT
#1357
On January 30 2015 23:49 Oddball28 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 23:47 Numy wrote:
On January 30 2015 23:46 Oddball28 wrote:
Secret clearly with the better decision making that game, it showed in the end here aswell. The experience on the players showed here.


What are you talking about. Secret cocked up so badly at the end. They only managed to win because of what they did 15 minutes prior to that.


No. They managed to win that because they knew, that they could only win that by getting the megas and base racing it. CDEC decided they wanted to take down the mid rax in the midst of us, which delayed their throne push by a big margin. So what are you talking about?

They managed to win because CDEC fluked. CDEC was so far up at one point, that Secret never should've come back. But CDEC does not have near the discipline and experience in their play. They got caught out multiple times after that which allowed Arteezy to get back in the game.

Ignoring the first 45 minutes of the game, nice analysis. CDEC was never far ahead.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
January 30 2015 14:50 GMT
#1358
hate how lumi starts theorycrafting all the time

just shut the fuck up

User was warned for this post
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
January 30 2015 14:50 GMT
#1359
On January 30 2015 23:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
So far this was the closest Secret was at losing, right?


Uhh... well yeah it was pretty close lol.

People hating on CDEC; in that situation its hard to make the right call; wp to Secret, credit where its due
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 30 2015 14:51 GMT
#1360
I do find the highlight that mid fight tho, everyone just buying back and running exactly in the middle of the map and just clashing, buying back and clashing.
WriterXiao8~~
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