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Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
January 11 2015 17:42 GMT
#3101
On January 12 2015 02:39 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 02:33 Gevna wrote:
On January 12 2015 02:29 Zea! wrote:
Why you so mad? It's not hard to understand that since TI4 (Chinese domination) to now the gap is even bigger, only star team left in the west scene is Secret, so let's see if they can do anything.

Well I remember the exact same stuff being said after TI2, and yet your reference is TI3. For now, beside VG, no team in china showed the same kind of level LGD / DK / IG showed during and after TI2. So I'm gonna wait at least the reshuffle.


Newbee?



Yeah probably, but they haven't played a lot since TI4, so I'm keeping my judgement back for now. They won ECL tho.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 11 2015 17:46 GMT
#3102
LGD worse then T1 EU teams?

eh.
WriterXiao8~~
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
January 11 2015 17:46 GMT
#3103
On January 12 2015 02:35 shizaep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 02:29 Zea! wrote:
Why you so mad? It's not hard to understand that since TI4 (Chinese domination) to now the gap is even bigger, only star team left in the west scene is Secret, so let's see if they can do anything.

I definitely wouldn't say that Chinese domination is happening at all right now. The only good teams in China now are Newbee and Vici, with CDEC, LGD, EHOME being worse than t1 eu teams. C9 is another top eu team and vpp, empire are definitely capable to take a series off of chinese teams


Please enlighten me on how you came to that conclusion.
Play your best
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
January 11 2015 17:47 GMT
#3104
On January 12 2015 02:46 Kipsate wrote:
LGD worse then T1 EU teams?

eh.


they finished behind EG/C9/Alliance in both WEC and WCA

given theres a long time thats passed since then
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
January 11 2015 17:48 GMT
#3105
Its hard but i dont think its out of the realms of possibilities for Navi and PR/HR to win the wildcard, PR/HR have a decent chance if they dont choke...

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-11 17:51:33
January 11 2015 17:50 GMT
#3106
VPP and new EG lost to Ehome and LGD is pretty much probably on par or just slightly behind VG right now. No way non-secret/C9 T1 EU teams be better than LGD ATM.
this is a quote
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-11 17:58:24
January 11 2015 17:50 GMT
#3107
LGD just won Ileague s2 with quite some dominance, yes they were pretty bad when they just reshuffled but Faith and MMY have found their place in LGD quite comfortably now

i'm not saying they will beat T1 teams consistently but I feel like they are good enough to give them a decent fight as of this moment.

Also Newbee wins shit while they play MMOs and WC3 rpgs all day, sorta like old na`vi I suppose.

Moreover, EHOME just beat the shit out of EG less then a week ago or so, how they can't defeat T1 western teams is beyond me unless Secret and C9 are the only T1 Western teams still left.

China is scary and here is to hope that the new talent from CIS will put up a good fight at DAC.
WriterXiao8~~
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
January 11 2015 18:06 GMT
#3108
Game is live.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
January 11 2015 18:07 GMT
#3109
On January 12 2015 02:50 Kipsate wrote:

China is scary and here is to hope that the new talent from CIS will put up a good fight at DAC.


new Secret please be great (also C9 but i maybe asking too much)
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
January 11 2015 18:10 GMT
#3110
Poll: Which office is better ?(i found this joke on the LR)

Human Resources (5)
 
63%

Public Relations (3)
 
38%

8 total votes

Your vote: Which office is better ?(i found this joke on the LR)

(Vote): Human Resources
(Vote): Public Relations

this is a quote
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
January 11 2015 18:16 GMT
#3111
Well of course higher tier teams would wreck NAvi or PR/HR but neither of the really big teams will be going to the qualifiers (they get a direct seed), so.... theres a lot to go but lets work with what we have, so far Mineski & Big God/Magneto are the teams which should be on the wildcard, neither of those teams look remarkably better than NaVi and PR/HR thou
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
January 11 2015 18:18 GMT
#3112
I feel the new reshuffle made C9 a bit weaker.

That Bo5 against Fire was worrying for me.They were struggling against them.
If it was the previous C9, they would have crush Fire.
Maybe they are still taking time to groove up.
We will see.

Secret does have the star-studded lineup.
But we haven't seen them in action yet.

Play your best
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
January 11 2015 18:18 GMT
#3113
holy hell that's actually a lot of really good spells for the rubick

too bad it ain't sonneiko rubick
this is a quote
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-11 18:21:05
January 11 2015 18:19 GMT
#3114
Oh when you look at wildcards I think its fair game for most teams, EU might have an edge there yeah.

Mineski is pretty bad and Big God are like a bunch of old legends having fun.

I feel like as for T1 western teams go, no team has gotten out of it stronger although i'm not sure about Secret.
WriterXiao8~~
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
January 11 2015 18:21 GMT
#3115
What a start lol
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
January 11 2015 18:22 GMT
#3116
On January 12 2015 03:18 FakeDeath wrote:
I feel the new reshuffle made C9 a bit weaker.

That Bo5 against Fire was worrying for me.They were struggling against them.
If it was the previous C9, they would have crush Fire.
Maybe they are still taking time to groove up.
We will see.

Secret does have the star-studded lineup.
But we haven't seen them in action yet.


Nah i think C9 is fine, not better probably but there is a big chance the old rooster would also have a rough time vs Team Fire. It was 4 eu players playing on NA server so there's that. And they also beat Team fire really easily on the first series.
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
January 11 2015 18:25 GMT
#3117
holy fuck stop fighting both teams please
this is a quote
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
January 11 2015 18:26 GMT
#3118
On January 12 2015 03:25 goody153 wrote:
holy fuck stop fighting both teams please

Super Smash Dota
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
January 11 2015 18:26 GMT
#3119
On January 12 2015 03:22 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 03:18 FakeDeath wrote:
I feel the new reshuffle made C9 a bit weaker.

That Bo5 against Fire was worrying for me.They were struggling against them.
If it was the previous C9, they would have crush Fire.
Maybe they are still taking time to groove up.
We will see.

Secret does have the star-studded lineup.
But we haven't seen them in action yet.


Nah i think C9 is fine, not better probably but there is a big chance the old rooster would also have a rough time vs Team Fire. It was 4 eu players playing on NA server so there's that. And they also beat Team fire really easily on the first series.


That is what I want to believe.

It's just that Misery is a very hit-and-miss player.
Play your best
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 11 2015 18:28 GMT
#3120
C9 is prolly going to be more inconsistent then ever but we will see.
WriterXiao8~~
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