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Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 16:41:40
September 23 2014 16:40 GMT
#721
Yeah the logic not strong there.

Tiny Wisp combo would be sinked by new patch if icefrog nerfed wisp so that no more tethering could be done.

What a gimmick strat tiny wisp is.

It's only a cheese strat because NAVI is not the ones capable of employing it.
We decide our own destiny
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
September 23 2014 16:41 GMT
#722
On September 24 2014 01:32 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 01:18 Procake wrote:
On September 24 2014 01:18 FHDH wrote:
This draft by C9 needs to be defeated. This is Envy saying "I am going all-in on the Drow aura cheese" and please make it stop.


Is it even a cheese if you can pick it 1st and 2nd and win with it like they have been?

I call it cheese because the strength of the Drow/Visage part of the draft - which is the core of the draft's strategy - relies entirely on the strength of a very specific interaction that could very easily be nerfed, and, given its current power, very likely will be.

Like if you base your whole strategy on the fact that Tinker can port to Brewlings. Any patch could totally sink that. I think it's fair to call that cheese.

Not saying it's not legit to use I'm just tired of seeing it because it's a very boring interaction to watch.

Also another day of this shit? Please tell me C9 took precautions since yesterday.

[Edit] lol





So powerful that Drow is now first pick/ban material vs all teams right? Other teams get smashed when they try to pick it. Even C9 wrecked Tinker when they tried to run the draft.
Envy fan since NTH.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
September 23 2014 16:42 GMT
#723
Does Xboct knows he is the #1 carry ? wtf are those dives for a bane .... sometimes i just dont understand how his brain functions
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
September 23 2014 16:44 GMT
#724
On September 24 2014 01:42 bluzi wrote:
Does Xboct knows he is the #1 carry ? wtf are those dives for a bane .... sometimes i just dont understand how his brain functions


Xboct see, xboct smash.
Envy fan since NTH.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
September 23 2014 16:45 GMT
#725
On September 24 2014 01:44 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 01:42 bluzi wrote:
Does Xboct knows he is the #1 carry ? wtf are those dives for a bane .... sometimes i just dont understand how his brain functions


Xboct see, xboct smash.


makes sense
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44127 Posts
September 23 2014 16:46 GMT
#726
I just tuned in to watch all girl archer strategy !!

WR best girl
this is a quote
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 23 2014 16:48 GMT
#727
visage + bane = grills?
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
September 23 2014 16:50 GMT
#728
On September 24 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
visage + bane = grills?


come on , its the "Beauty and the Beast" Strat , stuff of legends
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
September 23 2014 16:51 GMT
#729
c9 running the true support drow strat.
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
September 23 2014 16:52 GMT
#730
Neither Drow nor Gyro in top5 networth. I'm entertained.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
September 23 2014 16:52 GMT
#731
On September 24 2014 01:50 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
visage + bane = grills?


come on , its the "Beauty and the Beast" Strat , stuff of legends

Now I'm hoping someone sets Bane's unused blink line to the tune of Beauty and the Beast.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
September 23 2014 16:52 GMT
#732
On September 24 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
visage + bane = grills?

look if a creepy ghost bird isn't a girl I don't know what is
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 16:54:46
September 23 2014 16:54 GMT
#733
On September 24 2014 01:40 Tien wrote:
Yeah the logic not strong there.

Tiny Wisp combo would be sinked by new patch if icefrog nerfed wisp so that no more tethering could be done.

What a gimmick strat tiny wisp is.

It's only a cheese strat because NAVI is not the ones capable of employing it.

It's like no one read what I wrote they are just so mad I am calling Drow/Visage cheese.

Tiny/Wisp is a combination that is just specifically strong as a combination based on mechanics that apply to every other hero. There's nothing specific Wisp does for Tiny that it doesn't do for anyone else. There's no small mechanics change that would leave the interaction between Wisp and most other heroes the same but would make Wisp and Tiny no longer powerful. That is what "very specific interaction" means.

Pudge/Chen would be a far better comparison. The change to hook didn't change how Pudge works in the vast majority of non-Chen games, and didn't do anything to how Chen works in games without Pudge. It was targeted at that precise interaction between the two heroes. That is cheese.

The fact that most teams are not good at Drow/Visage doesn't actually change anything. How many teams were good at fountain hooks?
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 23 2014 16:54 GMT
#734
On September 24 2014 01:52 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 01:50 bluzi wrote:
On September 24 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
visage + bane = grills?


come on , its the "Beauty and the Beast" Strat , stuff of legends

Now I'm hoping someone sets Bane's unused blink line to the tune of Beauty and the Beast.

It's not unused anymore, but it isn't an "every time" line either.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44127 Posts
September 23 2014 16:54 GMT
#735
pls no more DDoS

On September 24 2014 01:52 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
visage + bane = grills?

look if a creepy ghost bird isn't a girl I don't know what is

if the birds are homo is it ok ? i mean they are still a girl at heart
this is a quote
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
September 23 2014 16:56 GMT
#736
On September 24 2014 01:52 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
visage + bane = grills?

look if a creepy ghost bird isn't a girl I don't know what is

Venge is a creepy ghost bird and she's a girl, Visage has to be too.

She's so spoopy.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
BongChambers
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada591 Posts
September 23 2014 16:59 GMT
#737
i demand icefrog clearly label each hero to have their gender shown and known to all as they obviously make a massive impact on the meta
420
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
September 23 2014 16:59 GMT
#738
Tobi stronk at feeling blanks.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44127 Posts
September 23 2014 17:00 GMT
#739
On September 24 2014 01:59 BongChambers wrote:
i demand icefrog clearly label each hero to have their gender shown and known to all as they obviously make a massive impact on the meta

i'll use grills all the time
this is a quote
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
September 23 2014 17:02 GMT
#740
Is the game still being DDoSed? I'm refreshing this page only to see discussions about grills and inane comments from FHDH comparing Visage+ Drow to fountain hook abuse (/facepalm).
Envy fan since NTH.
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