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On July 15 2014 05:24 Kuroeeah wrote:
I don't understand the trend of safe-lane Razor. What exactly does this hero really offer in the safelane and what exactly is making him so valued? Is he good against any particular hero that warrants a firstpick/ban that teams are giving to him?
There's nothing to understand, most pro players have no brain
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On July 15 2014 05:24 Kuroeeah wrote:
I don't understand the trend of safe-lane Razor. What exactly does this hero really offer in the safelane and what exactly is making him so valued? Is he good against any particular hero that warrants a firstpick/ban that teams are giving to him?
Well, i suppose idea is that he can dominate lane, farm up usual stuff and then go ahead and deathball with rest of the team. Kinda similar to viper. Problem is that for this you need to have deathball-ish line-up in the first place.
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Come on NaVi you're better than this ...
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for some reason Puppey thinks that Razor is an autowin + likes to draft weak/passive supports who can't do anything to enemy offlaners/mids/etc, just stay on lane and occasionally pull. Did not warded enemy ancients against tide either. Kind a underwhelming and feels exactly like Na'VI played in group stage against strong teams - clueless, with questionable picks.
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On July 15 2014 05:23 kaztah wrote:
Why do they keep picking fucking razor. what a godawful hero
better than core veno
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I want to see some critshaker. I missed it
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Earthshaker and Shadow Shaman are just so fucking good on the same team. Every time I see it it wins at TI.
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On July 15 2014 05:25 Zizy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 05:24 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:On July 15 2014 05:21 Darpa wrote:
ughh hate this style of play.
Go in, ultimate spam. Retreat wait for next rosh, ult spam, repeat. So boring in between. People never gave Navi shit for doing push strats. I guess everything that Chinese teams do is boring. Chinese go split push - "Chinese boring, nerf rat". Chinese go push - "ugh, push strats, so boring". There's no pleasing the fanboys
Obviously everyone should fight in the jungle until 100 kills
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James just called Banana, Banan. He's been living in Sweden for too long.
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On July 15 2014 05:26 lprk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 05:25 Zizy wrote:On July 15 2014 05:24 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:On July 15 2014 05:21 Darpa wrote:
ughh hate this style of play.
Go in, ultimate spam. Retreat wait for next rosh, ult spam, repeat. So boring in between. People never gave Navi shit for doing push strats. I guess everything that Chinese teams do is boring. Chinese go split push - "Chinese boring, nerf rat". Chinese go push - "ugh, push strats, so boring". There's no pleasing the fanboys Obviously everyone should fight in the jungle until 100 kills
NR20 is the most honorable way to play
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On July 15 2014 05:24 Darpa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 05:23 Zizy wrote:On July 15 2014 05:21 Darpa wrote:
ughh hate this style of play.
Go in, ultimate spam. Retreat wait for next rosh, ult spam, repeat. So boring in between. Yea it's Newbees draft we have to flame. It's not like Na'Vis lineup couldn't do anything even if Newbee had their ulties down. I didnt flame anything, I said I hate this style of play. dont be a fanboy.
You hate that Navi lost. No matter that style Newbee played, I'm sure you would have had a problem with it.
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On July 15 2014 05:25 Zizy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 05:24 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:On July 15 2014 05:21 Darpa wrote:
ughh hate this style of play.
Go in, ultimate spam. Retreat wait for next rosh, ult spam, repeat. So boring in between. People never gave Navi shit for doing push strats. I guess everything that Chinese teams do is boring. Chinese go split push - "Chinese boring, nerf rat". Chinese go push - "ugh, push strats, so boring". There's no pleasing the fanboys
I said earlier i much prefer to see rat. Push is boring for me. I just said an opinion for me, I didnt flame anyone. Your the one whining about it.
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On July 15 2014 05:26 lprk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 05:25 Zizy wrote:On July 15 2014 05:24 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:On July 15 2014 05:21 Darpa wrote:
ughh hate this style of play.
Go in, ultimate spam. Retreat wait for next rosh, ult spam, repeat. So boring in between. People never gave Navi shit for doing push strats. I guess everything that Chinese teams do is boring. Chinese go split push - "Chinese boring, nerf rat". Chinese go push - "ugh, push strats, so boring". There's no pleasing the fanboys Obviously everyone should fight in the jungle until 100 kills
remove creeps altogether imo
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On July 15 2014 05:24 Darpa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 05:23 Zizy wrote:On July 15 2014 05:21 Darpa wrote:
ughh hate this style of play.
Go in, ultimate spam. Retreat wait for next rosh, ult spam, repeat. So boring in between. Yea it's Newbees draft we have to flame. It's not like Na'Vis lineup couldn't do anything even if Newbee had their ulties down. I didnt flame anything, I said I hate this style of play. dont be a fanboy.
The amount of underlying racism on these forums is sickening, that's why some people are getting fed up with it. All the SEA/Chinese teams have been playing extremely aggressive styles of play, and yet people call it boring. iG gets Ember Spirit and rolls a team? Boring. DK runs a strong push strat that takes extreme execution? Boring. VG runs a brilliant Pugna centric push strat? Boring. LGD runs a midgame centric line-up centered around Invoker's great teamfighting? Boring.
Anything the Asian teams do is considered boring here, and it's fucking ridiculous. Play Naga and map control? Boring. Play Tinker and get great pickoffs? Boring. Play a facerush strat? Boring. Play for towers/Roshan? Boring. That's all I've seen. It's either boring, boring, boring, or "WTF SO CHEEZY OP SHIET."
I guess DK/iG/VG/Newbee/LGD should be dumb as fuck and go for random kills with their heads cut off like Liquid and Navi.US does on occasion right? The Chinese teams play a much more objective based style of play, they want to control the map or take objectives, while the West plays a much more hero kill centric style of play (they play to deathball/gank mostly, though a few teams have very different styles of play like c9 who is much more farm centric). It's different styles of play, both which are very interesting to watch at the highest of levels. It just makes me laugh that the same shit the Asian teams do, the West teams get lauded for such as running Naga Siren or playing split push DotA, or an amazing push pocket strat.
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At least Na'Vi won on pennants.
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I still don't understand how navi passed the group stage. Every gamle I watch they're ugly. And how about picking real xbox heroes like weaver.
No ancient wards, no nothing.
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Sixth loss in a row for Razor. Overall sub-40% win rate at TI4.
Why do people keep drafting him again?
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On July 15 2014 05:27 Darpa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 05:25 Zizy wrote:On July 15 2014 05:24 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:On July 15 2014 05:21 Darpa wrote:
ughh hate this style of play.
Go in, ultimate spam. Retreat wait for next rosh, ult spam, repeat. So boring in between. People never gave Navi shit for doing push strats. I guess everything that Chinese teams do is boring. Chinese go split push - "Chinese boring, nerf rat". Chinese go push - "ugh, push strats, so boring". There's no pleasing the fanboys I said earlier i much prefer to see rat. Push is boring for me. I just said an opinion for me, I didnt flame anyone. Your the one whining about it.
Guess it's a lucky coincidence that a guy with Na'Vi tag states " the opinion" how pushing strats are boring after his team loses to one..
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On July 15 2014 05:26 lprk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 05:25 Zizy wrote:On July 15 2014 05:24 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:On July 15 2014 05:21 Darpa wrote:
ughh hate this style of play.
Go in, ultimate spam. Retreat wait for next rosh, ult spam, repeat. So boring in between. People never gave Navi shit for doing push strats. I guess everything that Chinese teams do is boring. Chinese go split push - "Chinese boring, nerf rat". Chinese go push - "ugh, push strats, so boring". There's no pleasing the fanboys Obviously everyone should fight in the jungle until 100 kills
Finally someone who gets it!
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On July 15 2014 05:28 superstartran wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 05:24 Darpa wrote:On July 15 2014 05:23 Zizy wrote:On July 15 2014 05:21 Darpa wrote:
ughh hate this style of play.
Go in, ultimate spam. Retreat wait for next rosh, ult spam, repeat. So boring in between. Yea it's Newbees draft we have to flame. It's not like Na'Vis lineup couldn't do anything even if Newbee had their ulties down. I didnt flame anything, I said I hate this style of play. dont be a fanboy. The amount of underlying racism on these forums is sickening, that's why some people are getting fed up with it. All the SEA/Chinese teams have been playing extremely aggressive styles of play, and yet people call it boring. iG gets Ember Spirit and rolls a team? Boring. DK runs a strong push strat that takes extreme execution? Boring. VG runs a brilliant Pugna centric push strat? Boring. LGD runs a midgame centric line-up centered around Invoker's great teamfighting? Boring. Anything the Asian teams do is considered boring here, and it's fucking ridiculous.
I will open you a secret bro: people hate Alliance too. Certain people, not all.
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