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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 12 2013 21:44 GMT
#981
On March 13 2013 06:41 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 06:39 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On March 13 2013 06:36 cecek wrote:
On March 13 2013 06:33 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On March 13 2013 06:28 cecek wrote:
VP should've banned Riki, nth have played him as a combo with wisp before.

Yes, but have they actually won with him before?

They have.

Against?

I've only seen them lose.
http://dota-academy.com/match/3131/
http://dota-academy.com/match/2984/

I should watch these games.


That said, I don't think Riki is really worth fearing. He's not useless but he's not a big enough problem to warrant a ban even if you know he's likely to be picked otherwise IMO.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 21:48:14
March 12 2013 21:47 GMT
#982
I don't think they should have banned him either no.

I still think they should have gotten DK and pushed through. But Riki is a good pick against Storm, but you still need to get the ball rolling which Nth didn't this game.

It'll take some fuck-ups from VP to lose this.
Once you Goblak...
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 12 2013 21:49 GMT
#983
You can't plan to push through if you let the enemy have a kotl.
super gg
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 21:53:23
March 12 2013 21:49 GMT
#984
You can with a bm/np/dk. Kotl is good at counter-pushing late-game in large 4v4/5v5 enagements or against slow pushing. Early game you can dive the shit out of him and he's useless.

Then when you get a couple of towers Storm won't have the room to do what he does best.

It's not a great plan but it's better than getting a Riki who will never get the room to farm.
Once you Goblak...
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 21:57:05
March 12 2013 21:55 GMT
#985
this riki pick.. why? he just dies from all their spam S:
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 21:57:09
March 12 2013 21:55 GMT
#986
Well played from VP though. As usual when they do well early they can roll through a team very fast, especially when the other team needs the time to get wisp (and in this case riki) online. This is how you're supposed to play vs wisp but it would be a different story vs DK who peaks earlier, can push, can counter-push, and doesn't die easily to storm ganks.
Once you Goblak...
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 12 2013 21:56 GMT
#987
On March 13 2013 06:49 teapoted wrote:
You can with a bm/np/dk. Kotl is good at counter-pushing late-game in large 4v4/5v5 enagements or against slow pushing. Early game you can dive the shit out of him and he's useless.

Then when you get a couple of towers Storm won't have the room to do what he does best.

It's not a great plan but it's better than getting a Riki who will never get the room to farm.

In your previous post, you said riki is a great pick. You're not making any sense.
super gg
Vankuga
Profile Joined April 2012
Panama2005 Posts
March 12 2013 21:57 GMT
#988
That was a beautiful play by VP, well played.
Vankuga
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 22:02:25
March 12 2013 21:59 GMT
#989
On March 13 2013 06:56 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 06:49 teapoted wrote:
You can with a bm/np/dk. Kotl is good at counter-pushing late-game in large 4v4/5v5 enagements or against slow pushing. Early game you can dive the shit out of him and he's useless.

Then when you get a couple of towers Storm won't have the room to do what he does best.

It's not a great plan but it's better than getting a Riki who will never get the room to farm.

In your previous post, you said riki is a great pick. You're not making any sense.
It is against the Storm but they just don't have the time to get the counter online unless they roll early game. It could have worked, and it isn't a bad pick and I don't think they got out-drafted. But I think a DK pick is better and safer and the window of opportunity is larger.
Once you Goblak...
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 22:04:21
March 12 2013 22:03 GMT
#990
If your offensive trilane is fucking Riki, Wisp and Rubick then you've already lost to any even half competent team... I didn't see the draft but holy hell how did they fuck up like that.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
March 12 2013 22:04 GMT
#991
Yeah the Riki needs much safer farm.
Once you Goblak...
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 12 2013 22:05 GMT
#992
On March 13 2013 07:03 Bash wrote:
If your offensive trilane is fucking Riki, Wisp and Rubick then you've already lost to any even half competent team... I didn't see the draft but holy hell how did they fuck up like that.

That's what firstpicking a wisp gives you nowadays, it seems.
super gg
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 22:11:09
March 12 2013 22:09 GMT
#993
s4 qop so badass. But I much prefer VP's line-up at this point. They're so used to running this.
Once you Goblak...
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
March 12 2013 22:20 GMT
#994
That jungle farming is so clowny.
Once you Goblak...
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
March 12 2013 22:20 GMT
#995
even with the na'vi vidya trick santa lost jungle

poor guy
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Presidenten
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden777 Posts
March 12 2013 22:29 GMT
#996
supports really being able to pick up some farm this game, 13 minutes in, the guy with the lowest lasthits still has 16, not a sight you see every day
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
March 12 2013 22:36 GMT
#997
this terrible kotl play is losing VP the game lol

this is awful to watch
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 12 2013 22:48 GMT
#998
Cool game 3. wp nth
super gg
Presidenten
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden777 Posts
March 12 2013 23:48 GMT
#999
s4 showed off a solid QoP there. GGWP No Tide!
D.Devil
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany227 Posts
March 15 2013 15:04 GMT
#1000
Today at 18:00 CET, there will be a live show where we draw the groups of the EMS One tournaments. Dota 2 should start around 18:20 or 18:30, right after CS:GO is done.

This will happen live in RaidCall: http://www.raidcall.com/go.php?sid=1997

We have something special in store for this draw. To reward the teams that managed to secure a top 4 ranking spot after all online cups, they will be allowed to switch their groups. This should give them a small leg-up, because of their hard work in the cup stage. The order in which these switches will happen are like this:

1. Fourth placed team swaps first
2. Third placed team swaps second
3. Second placed team swaps third
4. Best placed team swaps last

More info: http://www.esl.eu/eu/emsone/news/217083/
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