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DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
August 08 2013 21:09 GMT
#2021
On August 09 2013 06:01 djaoni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 05:59 DDie wrote:
On August 09 2013 05:56 Nick3 wrote:
Its so ironic how people complain about PL but not alch...



Maybe because alch can't push multiple lanes and siege a base for 10 minutes safely from the river/jungle?


But Alch can 1v5 teams that are 20k gold ahead with just 1 stun on 2 supports.

Balanced.



Show me a professional replay of a alchemist doing this, please,

And if you are talking about game 1 you are either: a) trolling, b) new, c) dumb. Sylar had a magnus with double RP, beastmaster and a nyx to hold people down.
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
LeCruci
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania403 Posts
August 08 2013 21:09 GMT
#2022
People get so annoyed when a hero becomes dominant. If meepo would become instapicked and start owning, it won't take a lot of time for people to start rioting in front of the valve offices.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2023
On August 09 2013 06:08 SkelA wrote:
Think LGD needed to make their move earlier in that game. Defending against PL and NP while they are chiping your raxes to death is never a good thing

They didn't have control of the game. Honestly for the most of the game they *wanted* to be able to win a straight-up teamfight, but Alliance's early advantages simply meant they didn't have the basic teamfight items to win fights. Beastmaster's Mek was painfully late, and Yao solo-dying to s4 really hurt his ability to start moving the game forward for LGD.
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2024
manta refresher carry naga same as G1
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2025
On August 09 2013 06:08 edgemega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 06:03 Plansix wrote:
On August 09 2013 06:00 TheYango wrote:
On August 09 2013 05:59 DDie wrote:
On August 09 2013 05:56 Nick3 wrote:
Its so ironic how people complain about PL but not alch...



Maybe because alch can't siege a base for 10 minutes safely from the river?

Alch also actually has to end the game, because Alch loses on even farm to many, many, carries.

Alch teams are actually quite under pressure to actually end the game at particular timings. I don't see why Alch is a hero to complain about.

I don't think they get that Alch is good because of his speed farming, not his robust endgame.


His endgame isnt horrible as long as he has chemical rage up. I find him kind of synonymous to bear late game (not super lategame) where your carrying is limited by one spell essentially, since Alchs ulti just gives him stupid IAS which is one of the most important DPS components lategame when crits/mkb/bashes come out.

Honestly i thought LGD played it out very well, and they had a chance to win definitely, but it was a reach since with that many creeps in the base, and magnus probably having to tp to fountain it isnt really too hard for Loda and bulldog to split up to not both get rped, and at that point both of their dpses were so high you probably need to hit both, and you wont hit both cause i dont think magnus's bkb would last long enough for him to even attempt to catch 2 before getting hexed.

Even though in my opinion on some of those seiges if s4 just did what most clocks do and focused on catching the magnus with hook+cogs to force out bkb, they couldve won fights cause at that point you just have bulldog save hex for sylar and orchid nyx/magnus

When your end game is "I really hoep I get 2 RPs off due to holding this cheese" its a bad time. They could have had it, but Alliance plays to safe for that.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2026
uff that naga pick was great
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2027
The problem is that LGD let's their supports starve while [A] loves to play greedy for all 5 heroes.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2028
yay. furion and gyrocancer this time!

=(
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2029
How much time after the game does it take for the replays to be up in the client?
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2030
aw man, not gyro
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VG.Fans
Profile Joined June 2013
Philippines358 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2031
EGM why always hoodie?
djaoni
Profile Joined August 2013
112 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2032
Alch again. Can't root for LGD with that cancer.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 21:10:34
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2033
Kipsate should bring back the hope for LGD. Has worked before.

I believe!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2034
On August 09 2013 06:07 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 06:04 sc14s wrote:
On August 09 2013 06:02 Plansix wrote:
On August 09 2013 06:00 JerKy wrote:
On August 09 2013 05:59 ZasZ. wrote:
On August 09 2013 05:55 Kabras wrote:
What a disgusting ass game. I officially hate Alliance's guts right now


If people don't want to play against those heroes, they can feel free to ban them. I'm not an Alliance fan but there's 1.5 million dollars on the line here and they're up against one of the best Chinese teams and the stiffest competition they've faced so far. If you pull any punches to please the internet nerds at that point, you deserve to lose. Giving Alliance the PL/KotL/Prophet combo is just dumb.

Yeah seriously
You cant get mad/upset at a team for picking "tryhard" heroes or something. This is the freaking international. People come here to WIN

Maybe they don't get that is for 2.6 million? OR they just hate people playing to win. Or they are confused by the ban phase.

its called anti-fun just like other games. I dont fault the playerss i fault the game not being balanced lol.

The game is totally balanced. LGD lost the game when they lose map control and Alliance just choked them to death. If you don't want to play against that style or are running a difference line up, BAN OUT PHANTOM LANCER!!!!!!!

Please, don't say that game is "totally" balanced when it isn't. I was stating that back then in 2008, now in 2013 I see how many holes it has. It has a lot of RNG, luck factor is big, it isn't "completely" balanced and some heroes obviously needs fixing, otherwise they wouldn't be banned/picked in 100% of the games.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2035
I hope it goes the way LGD vs TF at DSL groups went.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
edgemega
Profile Joined August 2012
United States239 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2036
On August 09 2013 06:09 On_Slaught wrote:
Sigh... another Alch game. God I hate that hero. Ofc there won't be a fuss over Alch + Visage which is just as bullshit as PL + Kotl.


I think because its more enjoyable to watch a gigantic goblin+ogre flailing the shit out of people than watching a strategic slow splitpush
Ianuus
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia349 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2037
On August 09 2013 06:08 Shikyo wrote:
If you don't like superfed megacarries 1v5ing teams when fed you can always go watch LoL or something... This is how DotA works. There's multiple ways to play DotA, lame and exciting. Most other games aren't as varied, I think that that's some of DotAs beauty...


But it wasn't a superfed megacarry 1v5ing a team? It was illusion vs creep PvE dota for the last 30 mins...I don't mind heroes being imba, I mind if they're boring to watch.
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2038
Oh look a Furion for Bulldog. Who didn't see that coming. jesus [A] -.- LGD please punch 'em!
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Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2039
I feel like the only one who's sick and tired of gyro :<
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#2040
Gyrocancer
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