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Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
August 10 2013 00:12 GMT
#3681
On August 10 2013 09:10 Porkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 09:09 Obelisco wrote:
Puppey blocked one of Dendi's hooks at the beginning of that fight lol

Dendi 4 Puppey 0

that made me smile wp

what im looking forward the most after this game is a boss highlight video done by na'vis youtube channel
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
August 10 2013 00:12 GMT
#3682
going to tread on some deep waters
+ Show Spoiler +
I get that Dendi Pudge is a thing, but is the hook generally this hyped?
From my pov it seem as a pretty easy skill to use, it "hangs" there for a long time, it catches when going out and coming back in and it have a low CD.

The curse is real
hefty
Profile Joined January 2005
Denmark555 Posts
August 10 2013 00:12 GMT
#3683
On August 10 2013 09:10 l3loodraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 09:08 babylon wrote:
On August 10 2013 09:08 dtz wrote:
They need to ban the Chen not the pudge. That's the hero that is allowing all these aggression.

Why is Chen so good?
pushes like a beast, and can save your carry no matter how fucked he is

In regards to pudge, it is really about getting the map control (vision) everywhere. If a pudge has to go blind, he fails.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 10 2013 00:12 GMT
#3684
On August 10 2013 09:11 Colston wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 09:11 ladyumbra wrote:
Why is it that when a pudge hooks someone he can pretty much always kill them right away but when a clockwerk does it they take longer to kill them and don't seem as guaranteed to get the kill? Is it just the guy playing pudge being much better this game or something about the heroes themselves that makes the one better at guaranteeing a kill. If so for what reason do you pick the one with the inferior chances at instant kill.

Sorry if this is obvious , I still don't really understand the game and the subtle differences between all the heroes.

Pudge hook does shitloads of damage, Clockwerk hook doesn't.

Clock's hook stun while pudge doesn't though.
spacer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2786 Posts
August 10 2013 00:12 GMT
#3685
This game is pretty over
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
August 10 2013 00:12 GMT
#3686
On August 10 2013 09:12 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 09:11 ladyumbra wrote:
Why is it that when a pudge hooks someone he can pretty much always kill them right away but when a clockwerk does it they take longer to kill them and don't seem as guaranteed to get the kill? Is it just the guy playing pudge being much better this game or something about the heroes themselves that makes the one better at guaranteeing a kill. If so for what reason do you pick the one with the inferior chances at instant kill.

Sorry if this is obvious , I still don't really understand the game and the subtle differences between all the heroes.

Clockwerk hook is inferior damage wise because it's travel time is million times faster and longer range

Also doubles as an escape.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 10 2013 00:12 GMT
#3687
16 hooks landed this game. Jesus.
Long live the King of Wings
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 10 2013 00:12 GMT
#3688
On August 10 2013 09:10 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 09:09 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 10 2013 09:07 Dubzex wrote:
On August 10 2013 09:05 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 10 2013 09:04 Dubzex wrote:
Crowd only boos when ayesee is casting. Coincidence? I think not.

...seriously...?

Why must this community be so shallow...

Are you calling me shallow for ayesee's negativity towards players and their playstyles? He gets the crowds to boo the players and the game of dota because he gets bored and you are calling me shallow. The guy spews nothing or incorrect information for the entirety of the game.

Yes. You are pathetically shallow for twisting scenarios to suit your own bias.

Have you heard any other caster twist the crowd to boo the game because he is bored?

I haven't seen a single caster "twist the crowd to boo the game because he is bored".
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 10 2013 00:13 GMT
#3689
On August 10 2013 09:12 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 09:11 Colston wrote:
On August 10 2013 09:11 ladyumbra wrote:
Why is it that when a pudge hooks someone he can pretty much always kill them right away but when a clockwerk does it they take longer to kill them and don't seem as guaranteed to get the kill? Is it just the guy playing pudge being much better this game or something about the heroes themselves that makes the one better at guaranteeing a kill. If so for what reason do you pick the one with the inferior chances at instant kill.

Sorry if this is obvious , I still don't really understand the game and the subtle differences between all the heroes.

Pudge hook does shitloads of damage, Clockwerk hook doesn't.

Is one harder to land than the other?

Hookshot travels a lot faster and Meat Hook's had parity issues that hurt its effectiveness for years.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
August 10 2013 00:13 GMT
#3690
Can't nudge the Pudge!
Dendi is on fire this game
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16842 Posts
August 10 2013 00:13 GMT
#3691
On August 10 2013 09:09 Sphaero wrote:
Too much focus on Dendi, tbh. Kuro is not getting enough credit for his play. His setups are absolutely beautiful this game.

That's cause this is the best rubick play in the world and is basically expected now. He is seriously fucking incredible.
The Bomber boy
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 10 2013 00:13 GMT
#3692
On August 10 2013 09:12 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 09:11 Colston wrote:
On August 10 2013 09:11 ladyumbra wrote:
Why is it that when a pudge hooks someone he can pretty much always kill them right away but when a clockwerk does it they take longer to kill them and don't seem as guaranteed to get the kill? Is it just the guy playing pudge being much better this game or something about the heroes themselves that makes the one better at guaranteeing a kill. If so for what reason do you pick the one with the inferior chances at instant kill.

Sorry if this is obvious , I still don't really understand the game and the subtle differences between all the heroes.

Pudge hook does shitloads of damage, Clockwerk hook doesn't.

Is one harder to land than the other?

isn't pudge's a lot slower?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 10 2013 00:13 GMT
#3693
On August 10 2013 09:12 Tobblish wrote:
going to tread on some deep waters
+ Show Spoiler +
I get that Dendi Pudge is a thing, but is the hook generally this hyped?
From my pov it seem as a pretty easy skill to use, it "hangs" there for a long time, it catches when going out and coming back in and it have a low CD.


It doesn't catch when coming back, you have to hit with it head on. The graphics are way too big as well.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 10 2013 00:13 GMT
#3694
On August 10 2013 09:13 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 09:12 babylon wrote:
On August 10 2013 09:11 Colston wrote:
On August 10 2013 09:11 ladyumbra wrote:
Why is it that when a pudge hooks someone he can pretty much always kill them right away but when a clockwerk does it they take longer to kill them and don't seem as guaranteed to get the kill? Is it just the guy playing pudge being much better this game or something about the heroes themselves that makes the one better at guaranteeing a kill. If so for what reason do you pick the one with the inferior chances at instant kill.

Sorry if this is obvious , I still don't really understand the game and the subtle differences between all the heroes.

Pudge hook does shitloads of damage, Clockwerk hook doesn't.

Is one harder to land than the other?

isn't pudge's a lot slower?

Yes.
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
August 10 2013 00:13 GMT
#3695
On August 10 2013 09:12 Tobblish wrote:
going to tread on some deep waters
+ Show Spoiler +
I get that Dendi Pudge is a thing, but is the hook generally this hyped?
From my pov it seem as a pretty easy skill to use, it "hangs" there for a long time, it catches when going out and coming back in and it have a low CD.



it looks easy to hit, but it's a pretty slow projectile and pudge gets destroyed mid without help from his team or lucky hooks
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 00:14:33
August 10 2013 00:13 GMT
#3696
XBOCT shouldn't even be considered the weakest player on Na'Vi anymore. He's gotten much better especially during/after the China bootcamp.

If there's a "weak point" on Na'Vi, it's actually probably Kuroky, not because of his individual skill (which is fantastic), but because of how inconsistent he is about maintaining support basics in a losing game (wards most importantly). It's just that Na'Vi very rarely gets into games disadvantaged enough where that matters (and when Dendi plays Pudge, he buys wards/smoke for his solo ganks himself).
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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 10 2013 00:14 GMT
#3697
On August 10 2013 09:12 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 09:10 Dubzex wrote:
On August 10 2013 09:09 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 10 2013 09:07 Dubzex wrote:
On August 10 2013 09:05 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 10 2013 09:04 Dubzex wrote:
Crowd only boos when ayesee is casting. Coincidence? I think not.

...seriously...?

Why must this community be so shallow...

Are you calling me shallow for ayesee's negativity towards players and their playstyles? He gets the crowds to boo the players and the game of dota because he gets bored and you are calling me shallow. The guy spews nothing or incorrect information for the entirety of the game.

Yes. You are pathetically shallow for twisting scenarios to suit your own bias.

Have you heard any other caster twist the crowd to boo the game because he is bored?

I haven't seen a single caster "twist the crowd to boo the game because he is bored".

Then maybe you should watch the DK vs IG 96 minute game.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
August 10 2013 00:14 GMT
#3698
On August 10 2013 09:11 ladyumbra wrote:
Why is it that when a pudge hooks someone he can pretty much always kill them right away but when a clockwerk does it they take longer to kill them and don't seem as guaranteed to get the kill? Is it just the guy playing pudge being much better this game or something about the heroes themselves that makes the one better at guaranteeing a kill. If so for what reason do you pick the one with the inferior chances at instant kill.

Sorry if this is obvious , I still don't really understand the game and the subtle differences between all the heroes.


Pudge hooks does like 360 damage, and his Ult + Rot does huge damage over like 3 seconds right after. After that, Pudge doesn't offer anything. Clockwork has to hook (does good damage), then Cog and Flare + Battery Assault...the battery assault that does a lot of damage is over 9 seconds though. Clockwerk is picked more often because Cogs, Flare, and Battery Assault all offer good team fight control and utility (Flare is map hacks, Cogs can just mess movement up, Battery Assault is aoe mini stun)...Pudge is kind of like a one trick pony.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 10 2013 00:14 GMT
#3699
What a dominating performance from navi.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 10 2013 00:14 GMT
#3700
Funn1k is such a good match for Na'Vi
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