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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
August 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#3181
switch to korean or russian then
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
August 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#3182
hmm, seems to be quite a few less people...wonder if they are getting lunch or just dont care as much to watch navi as alliance
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
climax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1088 Posts
August 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#3183
Yes! Ayesee casting the Na'Vi game?! This is gonna be great!

LETS GO Na'Vi!!
Twitter: @JonathanRosales
CAPSLOCKED
Profile Joined April 2011
563 Posts
August 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#3184
well at least TL's two games later will be bearable
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#3185
Navi having a pretty big discussion
Neosteel Enthusiast
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
August 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#3186
On August 10 2013 08:37 Jetaap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:36 Doctorbeat wrote:
Ayesee I'm going to sleep

Same I was thinking about watching one last game, but without commentary (have to mute him) i won't be able to stay awake.


What's so bad about it?
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#3187
On August 10 2013 08:37 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:30 Noocta wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:29 GwSC wrote:
These Dota 2 interviews are much less awkward than SC2 ones so far.
Do we blame the players?
The interviewers?
Both?


DotA and LoL are team games, you need a minimum of social skills that starcraft players lack.

And my counterpoint is that EE-sama is yet socially awkward and has a highly functioning team.

The one which is undergoing a roster change?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 23:41:43
August 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#3188
On August 10 2013 08:29 superstartran wrote:
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On August 10 2013 08:28 mnesthes wrote:
Why so many people hate the game out of KotL+PL+Batrider picks from Allinace? If anything then DK should blame themselves for being overconfident and revealing their hand too soon with Spectre FP. Keep in mind that these players play to win, and they will use any legitimate trick they have no matter how frowned upon they might be to achieve it.

I suggest people who are still mad about KotL PL read this: http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html



Has nothing to do with playing to win. Has more to do with the fact that E-sports hinges on having viewers, and Kotl/Pl/Batrider comps are completely boring to watch and simply boring.


Any competitive game (be it a traditional sport or dota) is made richer by having a variety of possible playstyles, and that possibility makes the game much more fun to play. The same complaints can be seen in pretty much every single sport. Barcelona has been a dominant team for years in football, and they play with a very consistent playstyle. Some people see it as the most beautiful football there is, and some fans think it is incredibly boring.

Concerning the KOTL PL, many think it is boring. Yet as people have noted, the combo doesn't actually have an overwhelmingly high winrate, but it seems to me that Alliance can consistently win with it. There certainly is something to appreciate in how Alliance plays their composition, and not just dismiss it as "yet another KOTL PL game".

I also find it a bit stupid to say that Alliance plays nothing but splitpush. It is not that uncommon for them to play Naix on Loda with a Puck or a Storm on S4. Also when Bulldog gets his LD, they don't imo really play splitpush at all, but a very aggressive early game elsewhere followed by a big push after Bulldog gets his items. Not to even mention their occasional PA or Ursa picks.
LeCruci
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania403 Posts
August 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#3189
On August 10 2013 08:36 zeru wrote:
oh fuck yes Ayesee



Not flaming/trolling, what do you love about his casting?
Xaga
Profile Joined June 2010
United States163 Posts
August 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#3190
On August 10 2013 08:33 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:31 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:29 superstartran wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:28 mnesthes wrote:
Why so many people hate the game out of KotL+PL+Batrider picks from Allinace? If anything then DK should blame themselves for being overconfident and revealing their hand too soon with Spectre FP. Keep in mind that these players play to win, and they will use any legitimate trick they have no matter how frowned upon they might be to achieve it.

I suggest people who are still mad about KotL PL read this: http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html



Has nothing to do with playing to win. Has more to do with the fact that E-sports hinges on having viewers, and Kotl/Pl/Batrider comps are completely boring to watch and simply boring.

So now we're pulling the "Killing Esports" card? Why don't you tell us how many thousands of viewers that game lost?



?


You realize how many viewers DotA lost when there was unlimited buybacks, short tp timers, and 70 minute farm fests? Not like the game was big at that point, but DotA was beginning to lose tons of viewers.


The way Alliance play is absurdly boring. They pick nothing but split push/disengage heroes and it's boring as fuck to watch. Extremely effective, and very strong. No doubt at all. But to think that it's 'fun' to watch is hilarious. The fact that you had a crowd cheering for a 4 protect 1 AM strat should tell the story.

The people who know about KOTL + PL (Dota players) might not enjoy the game, but they're going to keep watching Dota. One boring game isn't going to make them stop watching Dota forever. And people who are new to dota won't really care. It wasn't as bad as the 100 minute game from last night.

Also, they're playing for a LOT of money. They're going to pick whatever they think gives them the best chance of winning, just like every other team. It's the style they're comfortable with, so they're going to stick with it.

ps. I'm not an Alliance fan and I think that game was boring; but I'm not going to quit watching dota because of it.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#3191
This is the perfect spot for Pudge! Do It!
rshawer
Profile Joined December 2012
178 Posts
August 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#3192
maybe someone from this can beat alliance
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#3193
Woohoo SD :D
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 23:39:11
August 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#3194
On August 10 2013 08:36 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:35 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:29 superstartran wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:28 mnesthes wrote:
Why so many people hate the game out of KotL+PL+Batrider picks from Allinace? If anything then DK should blame themselves for being overconfident and revealing their hand too soon with Spectre FP. Keep in mind that these players play to win, and they will use any legitimate trick they have no matter how frowned upon they might be to achieve it.

I suggest people who are still mad about KotL PL read this: http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html



Has nothing to do with playing to win. Has more to do with the fact that E-sports hinges on having viewers, and Kotl/Pl/Batrider comps are completely boring to watch and simply boring.

Why is it boring?



Would you prefer to watch people actively engage on the map or do you want to watch snooze fests where both KotL and PL PvE while Batrider walks around waiting for someone to stick their head out?
I'd prefer if people didn't incisively whine, thanks.

The last game was more exciting than 50% of the games that were played in the tournament. Was it the most exciting? No. But above average compared to one-sided stomps.
Once you Goblak...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 09 2013 23:39 GMT
#3195
On August 10 2013 08:38 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:33 Drazerk wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:30 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:27 Drazerk wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:26 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:26 MCDayC wrote:
Guess who's computer got fixed and is now redownloading skype...

OMG YAY :3

Guess who doesn't have a computer and isn't redownloading skype!

Was wondering why you were never around. Thought you were just hardcore speedrunning or some shit.

Well I've been learning 3 different games since I don't have a computer...

Kh2 / Re:Coded / Platinum ftw

kh2 is such a great game!

It is terrible to speed run compared to 358/2 / 1.5 / Re;Coded (God damn Roxas / Gummi)
Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
August 09 2013 23:39 GMT
#3196
On August 10 2013 08:37 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:36 Jaeger wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:33 superstartran wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:31 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:29 superstartran wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:28 mnesthes wrote:
Why so many people hate the game out of KotL+PL+Batrider picks from Allinace? If anything then DK should blame themselves for being overconfident and revealing their hand too soon with Spectre FP. Keep in mind that these players play to win, and they will use any legitimate trick they have no matter how frowned upon they might be to achieve it.

I suggest people who are still mad about KotL PL read this: http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html



Has nothing to do with playing to win. Has more to do with the fact that E-sports hinges on having viewers, and Kotl/Pl/Batrider comps are completely boring to watch and simply boring.

So now we're pulling the "Killing Esports" card? Why don't you tell us how many thousands of viewers that game lost?



?


You realize how many viewers DotA lost when there was unlimited buybacks, short tp timers, and 70 minute farm fests? Not like the game was big at that point, but DotA was beginning to lose tons of viewers.


The way Alliance play is absurdly boring. They pick nothing but split push/disengage heroes and it's boring as fuck to watch. Extremely effective, and very strong. No doubt at all. But to think that it's 'fun' to watch is hilarious. The fact that you had a crowd cheering for a 4 protect 1 AM strat should tell the story.


Pretty sure watching alliance play kotl pl is incredibly entertaining.


Did u watch their last kotl + pl game?


yes
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/8137911
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 09 2013 23:39 GMT
#3197
On August 10 2013 08:37 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:30 Noocta wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:29 GwSC wrote:
These Dota 2 interviews are much less awkward than SC2 ones so far.
Do we blame the players?
The interviewers?
Both?


DotA and LoL are team games, you need a minimum of social skills that starcraft players lack.

And my counterpoint is that EE-sama is yet socially awkward and has a highly functioning team.


Just ask SeleCt how hard ti was for him to talk enough to work inside a DotA team.
And SleCt is not the most shy / awkward player we have by far.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Merfyn
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom945 Posts
August 09 2013 23:39 GMT
#3198
ITS HAPPENING!
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.."
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 09 2013 23:39 GMT
#3199
Oh god even better... Mirana + Pudge.
CherryNubCakes
Profile Joined July 2012
United States972 Posts
August 09 2013 23:39 GMT
#3200
PICK PUDGE TO STOP THE COMBO!
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