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geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
August 12 2013 04:30 GMT
#10001
That was probably the best tournament finals I've ever seen. Of any game. Or even sport.

Such an amazing event.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 04:30:44
August 12 2013 04:30 GMT
#10002
On August 12 2013 13:27 HigoSeco wrote:
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On August 12 2013 13:23 Shikyo wrote:
On August 12 2013 13:20 HigoSeco wrote:
I didn't root for any of the teams in the finals, but i really don't like this split push bullshit win in the final game. Anyways, Alliance deserved the win since the game allows for that kind of shit

DotA, LoL or whatever you have... Splitpushing is always an effective strategy. In even SC2 you can do the same thing(Attack in multiple locations, dodge the main army) and there it's considered amazing play. What sort of games are you looking for, WoW 3v3 Arena?

It juat feels that splitpushing with certain heroes is way too strong compared to other strats. Na'vi went from being ahead to losing the game just because their tps were cancelled. That kind of play shouldn't have such a big reward. Anyways Alliance deserved the win given the current state of the game. I just hope np gets nerfed and maybe wisp too.

You don't think it was risky? What if Na'Vi kept going and killed the throne?

Remember DotA2 is just secondarily PvP, the main goal is destroying buildings.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
August 12 2013 04:30 GMT
#10003
You Na'Vi fans are the worst, split push is done in A LOT of games, if NaVi didn't want to deal with it they could have banned NP but they didn't so as far as they were concerned that wasn't a problem. Freaking sore losers, it was an amazing game, it came down to the wire and I couldn't be happier that's how it ended. There was no cheese or game breaking bugs etc, you're just sore losers. Won fair and square.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
August 12 2013 04:30 GMT
#10004
On August 12 2013 13:28 jigga wrote:
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On August 12 2013 13:26 hyptonic wrote:
navi didnt even deserve top 4


After that finals, you have to admit Navi pull it out when it really matters. In that sense they deserved to be where they are (2nd place). But Alliance 100% deserve to be first. They are just the best team atm overall.


Yeah, Alliance played the better dota the entire tournament.

The best team in the world won the tournament, simple as that.
We decide our own destiny
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 12 2013 04:30 GMT
#10005
On August 12 2013 13:28 Plansix wrote:
OMG, no more whining about split pushing. Na'Vi got here on the back of fountain hooks, so I think we can all agree that winning requires you to dig deep and go to the darkside.

Win at all costs, I don't get why people can't understand that. Especially with such a prize pool. It's not like the tournament was boring.
ballasdontcry
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 04:30:57
August 12 2013 04:30 GMT
#10006
On August 12 2013 13:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
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On August 12 2013 13:22 jeeneeus wrote:
How is that cheesing? When MarineKingPrime would base race every tvt with bio against tanks was that cheese?


What made MKP fun is that he was super creative and would do really audacious cheese, macro play, just makes marines. He had a unique playstyle that was really unpredictable and micro that was visibly way ahead of anyone else even to a bronze player.

People hate Alliance because they're boring, Bulldog only picks two heroes in 95% of his games and they almost never do anything out of the ordinary or pick none FOTM heroes. That is really, really boring Dota that no one wants to see. Alliance arent like BitByBit they're like Mvp and there's a good reason Mvp never had the fans that MKP, MMA, DRG, Nestea or MC did.

wat? mvp has like the most variety in builds of any of the current terrans. in bo5 and bo7's he almost always mixes up cheese and macro play, and even with standard play he'd go mech sometimes and bio other times. comparing bulldog to mvp is a shitty comparison.

if it was bulldog to innovation i'd agree, but i have to say that mvp::bulldog is flat out wrong.
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
August 12 2013 04:30 GMT
#10007
Now we have to wait another whole year
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
August 12 2013 04:30 GMT
#10008
On August 12 2013 13:28 YoucriedWolf wrote:
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On August 12 2013 13:27 Steelavocado wrote:
How can a tourny like this be beat?

TI4!

With more heroes in the pool even!! Man, I can't wait for Arc Warden split push play!!
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 12 2013 04:30 GMT
#10009
No winners interview is just so weird. Give someone 1.4 million don't ask them how they feel.
Neosteel Enthusiast
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 12 2013 04:30 GMT
#10010
COUNTOWN : 364 DAYS 22 HOURS 18 MINUTES
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
August 12 2013 04:30 GMT
#10011
Congratz to Alliance! What a run!
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
August 12 2013 04:30 GMT
#10012
Is there anything else left? Any stream or something?
Religion: Buckethead
IMMABEASTBRUH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States271 Posts
August 12 2013 04:30 GMT
#10013
Best e-sports finals I've ever seen in my life.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 12 2013 04:30 GMT
#10014
On August 12 2013 13:29 Dfgj wrote:
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On August 12 2013 13:28 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On August 12 2013 13:26 Count9 wrote:
On August 12 2013 13:21 Tunga wrote:
I hate prophet, I hate wisp, I hate Alliance, I hate split push and I hate how that game is won.

BUT I love that game 5, I love this fuckin grand finals, I love the whole tournament, I love all the storylines and fuckin love DotA!!!

If you don't ban wisp and lose to split push, you don't get to complain. I think that hero is dumb and completely ridiculous in terms of game presence, map control, and giving gobal mobility to the most valuable hero on your team; but if you don't ban it and lose to a strategy centered around what that hero can do, it's your own damn fault. Alliance deserved that win, they played consistent and didn't crack under the pressure like dendi feeding to rosh with 5 treeants right next to him or navi not tping back to base as a team to stop the double rax.


To be fair, they did TP back as a team...three of them in dream coil range of each other.

I still don't know why they TP'd back when they had their entire team there to attack the t4 towers, and half of alliance was splitpushing.

I don't think they new the S4 was in range and they were under pressure. That is when you make mistakes.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 12 2013 04:31 GMT
#10015
On August 12 2013 13:25 Gigaudas wrote:
I fully understand the Navi-fans who are calling the last game "awful".

But having a game like that deciding a final - that's just too good to be true.

i cant. its freaking retarded. that game was absolutely final worthy, a game one can dream of to have as final and if there are people that cant appreciate what that was i feel sorry for them
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
August 12 2013 04:31 GMT
#10016
Sweden too good at dota
you no take candle
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 12 2013 04:31 GMT
#10017
On August 12 2013 13:30 EnderCraft wrote:
Now we have to wait another whole year

I'm hoping that TI becomes a league now that the game is finally released
EZ4ENCE
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
August 12 2013 04:31 GMT
#10018
On August 12 2013 13:29 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 13:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 12 2013 13:22 jeeneeus wrote:
How is that cheesing? When MarineKingPrime would base race every tvt with bio against tanks was that cheese?


What made MKP fun is that he was super creative and would do really audacious cheese, macro play, just makes marines. He had a unique playstyle that was really unpredictable and micro that was visibly way ahead of anyone else even to a bronze player.

People hate Alliance because they're boring, Bulldog only picks two heroes in 95% of his games and they almost never do anything out of the ordinary or pick none FOTM heroes. That is really, really boring Dota that no one wants to see. Alliance arent like BitByBit they're like Mvp and there's a good reason Mvp never had the fans that MKP, MMA, DRG, Nestea or MC did.

Whine, whine, whine. Getting split pushed is what HAPPENS if you 5 man. It how you stop them from pushing your base. Its why people don't 5 man right off the bat. Get over it. Alliance won because they are FUCKING GOOD AT DOTA 2.

He wasn't whining and he never said that Alliance didn't deserve to win. He said they were boring as shit.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
August 12 2013 04:31 GMT
#10019
On August 12 2013 13:27 Steelavocado wrote:
How can a tourny like this be beat?

With Navi beating Alliance next year.
© Current year.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 12 2013 04:31 GMT
#10020
Man I wanted a postgame show to calm down

how can I sleep now
WriterXiao8~~
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