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On April 14 2014 00:32 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
This game actually puzzles me: how the hell morph carries. All i see is him being irrelevant and eating all damage. I suppose his attack animation too good. Mainly with Shotgun. Then at some point because he is so fat and has so much Agility, he kills supports really fast with his right clicks.
the only reason i can think of why morph rapes everyone is that
-->6 slotted morph is just too strong compared to other range carries
-->morph has too much armor lategame .. i mean come on 34 natural is almost shivas + AC
--> so hard to kill with ultimate and can split push
--> farms really fast
--> comes online fast with just linkens +1
-->has 1 hit potential midgame
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On April 14 2014 00:33 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 00:32 DucK- wrote:On April 14 2014 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
This game actually puzzles me: how the hell morph carries. All i see is him being irrelevant and eating all damage. I suppose his attack animation too good. Mainly with Shotgun. Then at some point because he is so fat and has so much Agility, he kills supports really fast with his right clicks. Well, with shotgun he can't even one shot a dazzle at this point. And well, i suppose he silenty right clicks everyone down. Too good of attack animation, can't see him hitting anyone :D. Though i still think that morph is overrated as late carry.
Main deal is that he can adjust his survivability to dps ratio based on situation, when he gets focused he is really tanky and soak up damage for rest of team, but when opponents change target he can start hitting quite hard.
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On April 14 2014 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
This game actually puzzles me: how the hell morph carries. All i see is him being irrelevant and eating all damage. I suppose his attack animation too good.
Shotgun, 1.6 BAT, tanks everything, can manfight almost anyone with 300 agi. Yes he has 300agi
pretty sure he comes close to being the highest dps carry at late late game.
The autoattacks do so much to his targets, compare him to lunas single target dps thru autoattacks... all she has is an awful +dmg aura.
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Chen was the unsung hero of that game.
And I blame Faith for not banning Morph. That's Luo's drawback - he isn't that strong at traditional carries.
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On April 14 2014 00:37 ChunderBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
This game actually puzzles me: how the hell morph carries. All i see is him being irrelevant and eating all damage. I suppose his attack animation too good. Shotgun, 1.6 BAT, tanks everything, can manfight almost anyone with 300 agi. Yes he has 300agi pretty sure he comes close to being the highest dps carry at late late game. The autoattacks do so much to his targets, compare him to lunas single target dps thru autoattacks... all she has is an awful +dmg aura.
only few carries can probably beat morph in a man fight
just maybe the permabash ones and ones who can kite him
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On April 14 2014 00:43 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 00:37 ChunderBoy wrote:On April 14 2014 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
This game actually puzzles me: how the hell morph carries. All i see is him being irrelevant and eating all damage. I suppose his attack animation too good. Shotgun, 1.6 BAT, tanks everything, can manfight almost anyone with 300 agi. Yes he has 300agi pretty sure he comes close to being the highest dps carry at late late game. The autoattacks do so much to his targets, compare him to lunas single target dps thru autoattacks... all she has is an awful +dmg aura. only few carries can probably beat morph in a man fight just maybe the permabash ones and ones who can kite him
antimage/pl
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Yay newbee, 15-3 or something into 17 straight kills lol
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On April 14 2014 00:43 ChunderBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 00:43 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2014 00:37 ChunderBoy wrote:On April 14 2014 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
This game actually puzzles me: how the hell morph carries. All i see is him being irrelevant and eating all damage. I suppose his attack animation too good. Shotgun, 1.6 BAT, tanks everything, can manfight almost anyone with 300 agi. Yes he has 300agi pretty sure he comes close to being the highest dps carry at late late game. The autoattacks do so much to his targets, compare him to lunas single target dps thru autoattacks... all she has is an awful +dmg aura. only few carries can probably beat morph in a man fight just maybe the permabash ones and ones who can kite him antimage/pl
Thanks for addressing exactly what i was going to post, but noticed your post in time: His manfighting ability is not on 300 agi, but on ability to turn those into 250 agi and 50 str in rather small amount of time. Also, no, morph does not even come close at highest dps carry at late late game. Even if he skips all survivability (aka we have a 900 HP ~45-50 armor lvl25 morph) without rapier he can only get as high 2,7-3k DPS. For comparison: CK with ult and manta up will deal slightly over 3,1k DPS while having ~4k HP on himself, 2k on phantasm illusions and ~1,2k on manta ones and ~25 armor.
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On April 14 2014 00:43 ChunderBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 00:43 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2014 00:37 ChunderBoy wrote:On April 14 2014 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
This game actually puzzles me: how the hell morph carries. All i see is him being irrelevant and eating all damage. I suppose his attack animation too good. Shotgun, 1.6 BAT, tanks everything, can manfight almost anyone with 300 agi. Yes he has 300agi pretty sure he comes close to being the highest dps carry at late late game. The autoattacks do so much to his targets, compare him to lunas single target dps thru autoattacks... all she has is an awful +dmg aura. only few carries can probably beat morph in a man fight just maybe the permabash ones and ones who can kite him antimage/pl
Dont forget tiny 
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opterown
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Kellymilkies' tweet said tiebreaks at 1500, does anyone know why all the other sites list 1400?
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Daylight savings confusion maybe? idk
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On April 14 2014 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
This game actually puzzles me: how the hell morph carries. All i see is him being irrelevant and eating all damage. I suppose his attack animation too good.
"Eating all the damage" is actually a very important property for a carry with how the game is currently played. Many of the strong heroes in this version are high-damage/high-impact non-carry backline heroes that need a frontline carry to let them do their thing in fights.
This is why we've seen a resurgence of Spectre as of late as well--heroes like Ancient Apparition, Invoker, and Dazzle (which are commonly picked in all regions in 6.80) aren't necessarily looking for a carry that kills the entire enemy team--they want a carry that is enough of a threat to create space for THEM to do their own thing in fights. Because as long as the frontline holds, those heroes can do the work of winning teamfights, without the need for the carry to be a big damage dealer, so long as the carry is survivable enough and at the same time dangerous enough that the enemy team HAS to deal with him.
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Timerating for tiebreakers, srsly...
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You know I do not really watch dota but I always love to read results but almost none of the dota threads have ANY results EVEN if there is a RESULTS spoiler (western division)
I don't know what I am missing this makes me crazy
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opterown
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there's always liquipedia though, link usually just under the banner
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opterown
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man screw all the other sites making me second guess myself and moving the TL time too lol
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so alliance has to 4 times in a row today
if they don't get to win even once or they lose half of their matches
i am gonna change my logo to na'vi mark my words
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On April 14 2014 05:28 PotatoFury wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 00:43 ChunderBoy wrote:On April 14 2014 00:43 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2014 00:37 ChunderBoy wrote:On April 14 2014 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
This game actually puzzles me: how the hell morph carries. All i see is him being irrelevant and eating all damage. I suppose his attack animation too good. Shotgun, 1.6 BAT, tanks everything, can manfight almost anyone with 300 agi. Yes he has 300agi pretty sure he comes close to being the highest dps carry at late late game. The autoattacks do so much to his targets, compare him to lunas single target dps thru autoattacks... all she has is an awful +dmg aura. only few carries can probably beat morph in a man fight just maybe the permabash ones and ones who can kite him antimage/pl Dont forget tiny
idk about tiny beating morph
i've seen it a couple of times .. tiny almost always ran.
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On April 14 2014 17:48 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
This game actually puzzles me: how the hell morph carries. All i see is him being irrelevant and eating all damage. I suppose his attack animation too good. "Eating all the damage" is actually a very important property for a carry with how the game is currently played. Many of the strong heroes in this version are high-damage/high-impact non-carry backline heroes that need a frontline carry to let them do their thing in fights. This is why we've seen a resurgence of Spectre as of late as well--heroes like Ancient Apparition, Invoker, and Dazzle (which are commonly picked in all regions in 6.80) aren't necessarily looking for a carry that kills the entire enemy team--they want a carry that is enough of a threat to create space for THEM to do their own thing in fights. Because as long as the frontline holds, those heroes can do the work of winning teamfights, without the need for the carry to be a big damage dealer, so long as the carry is survivable enough and at the same time dangerous enough that the enemy team HAS to deal with him.
Thanks for explaining me the reasons behind the Empire's win streak draft wise (ofc, they did the plays too, but still :D). I suppose seeing how DK got rekt by LGD in that 2nd game by SK-AA after morph's attempts to throw should explain me that.
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On April 14 2014 22:28 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2014 05:28 PotatoFury wrote:On April 14 2014 00:43 ChunderBoy wrote:On April 14 2014 00:43 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2014 00:37 ChunderBoy wrote:On April 14 2014 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
This game actually puzzles me: how the hell morph carries. All i see is him being irrelevant and eating all damage. I suppose his attack animation too good. Shotgun, 1.6 BAT, tanks everything, can manfight almost anyone with 300 agi. Yes he has 300agi pretty sure he comes close to being the highest dps carry at late late game. The autoattacks do so much to his targets, compare him to lunas single target dps thru autoattacks... all she has is an awful +dmg aura. only few carries can probably beat morph in a man fight just maybe the permabash ones and ones who can kite him antimage/pl Dont forget tiny idk about tiny beating morph i've seen it a couple of times .. tiny almost always ran.
EHOME vs Orange @ TI2, never forget.
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