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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
June 22 2014 18:17 GMT
#5501
won that without even using rp
POGGERS
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 18:17:48
June 22 2014 18:17 GMT
#5502
What happened to Cloud9? They've just been bad these past few months.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
StarcracK
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada49 Posts
June 22 2014 18:17 GMT
#5503
On June 23 2014 03:08 wuhan_clan wrote:
Rofl, did Ayesee really just call this a good draft from C9? I mean, I know he doesn't know much but this was pretty obvious ...

its Ayesee being really nice guy that he is. C'mon dude
Noya
Profile Joined April 2013
Uruguay11223 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 18:19:04
June 22 2014 18:18 GMT
#5504
pieliedie negative fantasy points both games
On June 23 2014 03:17 Sabu113 wrote:
What happened to Cloud9? They've just been bad these past few months.

trying really hard to pick unconventional stuff
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17609 Posts
June 22 2014 18:19 GMT
#5505
PLD negative fantasy points again.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
June 22 2014 18:19 GMT
#5506
C9 should stop picking Wisp, pieliedie is just bad on that hero.
The Real Power~
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 22 2014 18:20 GMT
#5507
C9 such a good team on paper, but always with the retarded drafts when it matters...

When they went to china, they could have easily gone far in tournaments if they played their usual style. I just don't understand why they prefer experimenting so heavily, rather than actually win tournaments...
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 22 2014 18:20 GMT
#5508
On June 23 2014 03:19 Zea! wrote:
C9 should stop picking Wisp, pieliedie is just bad on that hero.


He has been bad like terribad recently. But to be fair, he was quite good with wisp at some point...
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 22 2014 18:21 GMT
#5509
You people really have short memories. A month or 2 ago, people were calling pie's wisp as the best in the world, when he was breaking lasso with zero range relocates, etc.

Picking Undying into a Lycan is definitely suspect, I dunno what was up with that.
super gg
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
June 22 2014 18:24 GMT
#5510
Mario Party destroyed PLD's pro Dota career. He's just not the same player ever since he went to GD Studio's couch stream.

(Honestly though, that was a horrible game for Wisp in general. So many ways for him to get blown up with all the -armor physical dmg combined with Timber and Visage nukes.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
June 22 2014 18:24 GMT
#5511
no one seriously called pie's wisp best in the world. Everyone always said he feeds in the early game and then makes plays later to make up for it. He's stopped doing that second thing and extended the feed to the entire game.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
June 22 2014 18:28 GMT
#5512
On June 23 2014 03:17 Sabu113 wrote:
What happened to Cloud9? They've just been bad these past few months.

this isn't true, they got second at DH and made ESL ONE
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
June 22 2014 18:31 GMT
#5513
On June 23 2014 03:20 DucK- wrote:
C9 such a good team on paper, but always with the retarded drafts when it matters...

When they went to china, they could have easily gone far in tournaments if they played their usual style. I just don't understand why they prefer experimenting so heavily, rather than actually win tournaments...


Not sure if you saw the interview with Cyborgmatt, but EE talked about their trip to China there. He said that they realized groups were not a huge priority, and he essentially put down 5 heroes that they wanted to play with, and just picked those (several were such heroes that would never really get banned). Even after those games they were confident going against iG, but he gave a lot of credit to iG and how they managed to draft against c9.

But more to the point, imo at DH they had a pretty clear plan for their drafts, and how they prioritized different heroes. If they want to do something different, this is the tournament to try it in. It has a decent prize pool, but it's online and at a terrible spot between two lans and right before TI. Teams are bootcamping and practicing all day with TI in mind, so I find it understandable if they don't show their best games (even just playing poorly because of lack of focus or testing something for the draft or whatever) in D2L. I suppose one can also put this just down to some fundamental problem with c9, but I guess we'll see how they approach the drafts at ESL once again, and finally at TI.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 22 2014 18:33 GMT
#5514
On June 23 2014 03:31 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 03:20 DucK- wrote:
C9 such a good team on paper, but always with the retarded drafts when it matters...

When they went to china, they could have easily gone far in tournaments if they played their usual style. I just don't understand why they prefer experimenting so heavily, rather than actually win tournaments...


Not sure if you saw the interview with Cyborgmatt, but EE talked about their trip to China there. He said that they realized groups were not a huge priority, and he essentially put down 5 heroes that they wanted to play with, and just picked those (several were such heroes that would never really get banned). Even after those games they were confident going against iG, but he gave a lot of credit to iG and how they managed to draft against c9.

But more to the point, imo at DH they had a pretty clear plan for their drafts, and how they prioritized different heroes. If they want to do something different, this is the tournament to try it in. It has a decent prize pool, but it's online and at a terrible spot between two lans and right before TI. Teams are bootcamping and practicing all day with TI in mind, so I find it understandable if they don't show their best games (even just playing poorly because of lack of focus or testing something for the draft or whatever) in D2L. I suppose one can also put this just down to some fundamental problem with c9, but I guess we'll see how they approach the drafts at ESL once again, and finally at TI.


I was referring mainly to their first trip there though.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
June 22 2014 18:35 GMT
#5515
the important thing everyone's glossing over is that bone7 is still winless on axe
dondi
Profile Joined January 2014
Finland145 Posts
June 22 2014 18:42 GMT
#5516
Dota 2 Video Producer for @GosuGamers. www.twitter.com/tniin
longdivision
Profile Joined December 2010
United States170 Posts
June 22 2014 18:44 GMT
#5517
I feel like execution and decision making were bigger problems than c9's draft last game. Empire's damage was mostly melee range, and ember's job in team fights was to SoF from the back while doom and axe tanked it up on the front line. Singsing dived into a fight early game, which ended in his death, and in the game ending fight he went for a greedy SoF while his team was not there and got caught and blown up instantly.

The axe didn't snowball in the laning stage and dived venge behind the tier1 at bottom lane with only 2 of his teammates backing him up. You just can't do that when all of Empire can tp to help.

Mistakes like this make my worry about c9's chances at TI4.
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
June 22 2014 19:00 GMT
#5518
Problem is C9 currently do not have a star playmaker. Bone7 used to fill this role, Sing on Potm did too but lately there's been no one to depend on. Seems like they lose confidence without someone to guide them. I don't think their drafts are necessarily the cause, it's usually the execution which is awesome if they can get momentum early/mid game otherwise they get stomped and never make a comeback.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
June 22 2014 19:05 GMT
#5519
Fnatic vs EG should be sick, rooting for EG.
The Real Power~
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17609 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 19:10:25
June 22 2014 19:09 GMT
#5520
I'm torn on who I should cheer for. Just hoping for an awesome game.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
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