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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 03 2014 17:40 GMT
#3901
Levels in glaives at this point wouldn't do more damage than Curse. For a scepter rush you obviously need Curse. Not leveling Last Word is just bad. So blaming the skill build instead of the item build doesn't make sense.
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 17:42:21
May 03 2014 17:40 GMT
#3902
my preferred build on silencer is phase atos orchid :D

orchid on morph > bait bkb > pop ult

+2 intellect secured
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 03 2014 17:42 GMT
#3903
Jesus, this commentary.... 20 minutes of bitching at Alliance's draft and making it seem like they're dead, when the game is kind of close. This is really making the game less enjoyable to watch. Sometimes I wonder why I even fucking unmute streams.
super gg
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 03 2014 17:43 GMT
#3904
On May 04 2014 02:38 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2014 02:33 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Isn't that the proper build? One point for orb walking, then leave it because it doesn't scale well until late.


It's not the proper build this game. There is no sustained damage on A's side besides Ion Shell. He should've either maxed out CotS or Last Word and then maxed out Glaives. Even in that last fight in mid, it would've given him a free Demon Edge in terms of damage.


The only way this game could go worse for Alliance is if LodA had to stand and right-click in a fight.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 17:48:39
May 03 2014 17:43 GMT
#3905
Looking at the numbers, is aghs not fantastic on Silencer? It basically makes your global silence into a zeus ult lite. Zeus level 2 ulti does 350 damage, and 475 at level 3. Silencer level 2 ulti and onwards with Agha does 390 damage and drains 192 mana. Obviously it has the downside of being a dot so you can deny players, and you can remove it with BKB. But still it seems like a very big benefit for the scepter, and it also adds 1 second silence.

Compare it to getting Agha on zeus (which seems to be somewhat common? maybe just in pubs though) it adds 165 damage to level 3 ultimate and has no other benefit. So I mean the aghs of zeus compared to the aghs of Silencer it seems like a complete joke. 165 damage vs 390 damage 192 mana drained and 1 extra second of silence. Only downside being BKB's counteres it even harder than zeus ult.
Wat
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
May 03 2014 17:43 GMT
#3906
On May 04 2014 02:40 Nymzee wrote:
my preferred build on silencer is phase atos orchid :D

orchid on morph > bait bkb > pop ult

gonna be hard to silencer ult in time, morph just presses bkb r

alliance needed to force more fights early game imo, loda needs dat int steal

LOL EGM sick
:)
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
May 03 2014 17:43 GMT
#3907
On May 04 2014 02:42 cecek wrote:
Jesus, this commentary.... 20 minutes of bitching at Alliance's draft and making it seem like they're dead, when the game is kind of close. This is really making the game less enjoyable to watch. Sometimes I wonder why I even fucking unmute streams.

agreed

why can't they hype carry silencer - i think it's refreshing to see sometihng new
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 17:44:11
May 03 2014 17:44 GMT
#3908
EGODM
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
May 03 2014 17:44 GMT
#3909
On May 04 2014 02:39 synapse wrote:
im hating ayesee's commentary right now...

It's hilarious. Every time EG does something good "Well duhhhh, ofc Alliance can't do anything" and every time Alliance does something good "Oh wow, look at them, how cute, still trying to play the game. I still feel it doesn't matter at all."
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 03 2014 17:44 GMT
#3910
Glaives lvl 4 instead of 1 does not give you 46 damage 15-20 minutes in.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 03 2014 17:44 GMT
#3911
Agha on carry silencer. What a rubbish item. The only item you really want on silencer is refresher, although this game is kind of bad for silencer. So what if you global? Where is your damage coming from? Atos sheep orchid are all much better choices than Agha anyway.
TheRubicon
Profile Joined February 2013
United States1342 Posts
May 03 2014 17:45 GMT
#3912
On May 04 2014 02:42 cecek wrote:
Jesus, this commentary.... 20 minutes of bitching at Alliance's draft and making it seem like they're dead, when the game is kind of close. This is really making the game less enjoyable to watch. Sometimes I wonder why I even fucking unmute streams.

tbh, i just listen to music when LD casts. its rather entertaining when the music matches the rhythm of the game
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
May 03 2014 17:45 GMT
#3913
On May 04 2014 02:44 DucK- wrote:
Agha on carry silencer. What a rubbish item. The only item you really want on silencer is refresher, although this game is kind of bad for silencer. So what if you global? Where is your damage coming from? Atos sheep orchid are all much better choices than Agha anyway.

agha is pretty meh but agha+refresher is actually pretty hilarious because you can get 4 stacking curses
:)
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
May 03 2014 17:46 GMT
#3914
s4 saving the day
The Real Power~
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
May 03 2014 17:46 GMT
#3915
Alliance just cannot push with this line up.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
TheRubicon
Profile Joined February 2013
United States1342 Posts
May 03 2014 17:46 GMT
#3916
dat EGM epi.... perfecto!!
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 03 2014 17:47 GMT
#3917
Just 2 stacking curses, if they manage to get them on most of the other team can win them the fight. The issue is that it's like other wombo combo lineups, too dependant on CDs and cant do much outside of it.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
May 03 2014 17:48 GMT
#3918
loda is really low leveled for a midas carry. probably the low amount of fights
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
May 03 2014 17:48 GMT
#3919
Curse is not strong against this lineup. There's a lot of nonessential spells EG can just throw out to negate it, and most of them are also mobility spells that let them disengage. Not to mention EG's initiation range is so huge they don't need to group up and risk getting hit.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 03 2014 17:48 GMT
#3920
So level 16 double aghs global does 910 damage and steals 448 mana if you use it perfectly. I would love to see that with an AA support, you would just instantly kill any non-core you hit with Ice Blast. But that's probably too little lockdown on 2 heroes already, so it's not a good draft.
super gg
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