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On April 03 2014 05:43 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 05:41 pyro19 wrote: Hilariously Outdrafted again. Visage and Nyx as the obvious hero counters to Naga and Bat with Pugna and Sniper with the added pushing power to counter what Puppey thought would be a mid Rat Naga with radiance.Liquid then decided to Run naga as a support and give up whatever counterpush they would have had by picking a Mirana.
Puppey as a Drafter is just on another level.Liquid needs a new drafter after TI4 , Badly. That wasn't an out-draft. Na'vi's line-up was actually pretty bad/trolly. They're just a much better team =/
Bad/trolly, really? I thought it had some great synergy, not disagreeing on the other part though.
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On April 03 2014 05:39 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 05:38 ptbl wrote: Does Liquid know how to team fight? How can they keep getting out played when they have the bat to initiate. Because they keep playing with standins and one of their biggest and most disruptive teamfight spells is in the hands of a standin.
They aren't stand-ins, they're tryouts. Unlike an actual stand-in who won't stay part of the team, one of these players more than likely will stay with the team.
That said, Demon seems like a much better option than Sneyking right now.
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On April 03 2014 05:45 Zorgaz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 05:43 Hapahauli wrote:On April 03 2014 05:41 pyro19 wrote: Hilariously Outdrafted again. Visage and Nyx as the obvious hero counters to Naga and Bat with Pugna and Sniper with the added pushing power to counter what Puppey thought would be a mid Rat Naga with radiance.Liquid then decided to Run naga as a support and give up whatever counterpush they would have had by picking a Mirana.
Puppey as a Drafter is just on another level.Liquid needs a new drafter after TI4 , Badly. That wasn't an out-draft. Na'vi's line-up was actually pretty bad/trolly. They're just a much better team =/ Bad/trolly, really? I thought it had some great synergy, not disagreeing on the other part though.
OK maybe "bad" is a bit extreme. But Na'vi's draft has a lot of flaws, namely how fragile they are to a well executed lifestealer bomb. Unfortunately, liquid butchered the "execution" part quite a few times.
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On April 03 2014 05:43 AwfuL_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 05:41 pyro19 wrote: Hilariously Outdrafted again. Visage and Nyx as the obvious hero counters to Naga and Bat with Pugna and Sniper with the added pushing power to counter what Puppey thought would be a mid Rat Naga with radiance.Liquid then decided to Run naga as a support and give up whatever counterpush they would have had by picking a Mirana.
Puppey as a Drafter is just on another level.Liquid needs a new drafter after TI4 , Badly. ? How do you blame someone for getting outdrafted by Puppey lmao.. Also to whoever says Bulba can't play bat, he plays an excellent one 9 out of 10 games.
I'm not blaming TC for getting outdrafted by Puppey , I'm just pointing out that he gets outdrafted A LOT. If Liquid wanna be one of the best teams in the world after TI4 and compete with the best , they need a new drafter that doesn't push them into a hole even before the game begins. I can only hope though.
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They had perfectly fine drafts against Dog, EG, Rox.Kis and Sigma
it's really easy to say a team got outdrafted when they simply got outplayed, I think the latter is what happened in game 1, while as for game 2 you could arguably say they got caught by surprise by Puppey's strat. I think that would've happened to pretty much any other team.
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On April 03 2014 05:46 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 05:39 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 03 2014 05:38 ptbl wrote: Does Liquid know how to team fight? How can they keep getting out played when they have the bat to initiate. Because they keep playing with standins and one of their biggest and most disruptive teamfight spells is in the hands of a standin. They aren't stand-ins, they're tryouts. Unlike an actual stand-in who won't stay part of the team, one of these players more than likely will stay with the team. That said, Demon seems like a much better option than Sneyking right now. It's an obvious choice. Demon is the better player.
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On April 03 2014 05:43 AwfuL_ wrote: ? How do you blame someone for getting outdrafted by Puppey lmao..
That kind of attitude will never yield any improvement. Whatever the reason is, he got outdrafted, they need to avoid that in the future because it's not like they can afford to give up the draft and outplay their opponents.
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I liked their draft over Na'Vis regardless. Most of the time, forum-goers declaring "outdraft" after a game don't really know what they are talking about. Me included.
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mmmm xboct ember.
not liking this so far, even with treant.
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On April 04 2014 04:16 ymir233 wrote: mmmm xboct ember.
not liking this so far, even with treant. idk, tree/ember is pretty good, and I feel like tree synergizes well with xboct's playstyle.
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If he goes BFury this lineup has a lot of synergy for teamfights. Overgrowth/Coil -> Vacuum -> Static Storm+Kinetic Field+Sleight of Fist = teamwipes
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On April 04 2014 04:24 TomatoBisque wrote: If he goes BFury this lineup has a lot of synergy for teamfights. Overgrowth/Coil -> Vacuum -> Static Storm+Kinetic Field+Sleight of Fist = teamwipes
I only approve if he goes full korean into triple battlefury.
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Clinkz does indeed seem like a really good pickup against Ember (and puck).
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D2L should give a warning to XBOCT to change his nickname. Why the fuck are you playing a NA tournament if you don't want to play on US East?
I didn't see him whining when Liquid was forced to play LUX on D2CL. It seems like as long as they have the advantage, it's all cool.
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D2L isn't an NA tournament and his name is whining about the Dreamleague matches IIRC. He just hasn't changed it.
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Its worth to get a radiance THIS late ?
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Funnik just walks into 5 people :D
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And the bluff worked flawlessly
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