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United States7542 Posts
On June 07 2016 15:02 Karpfen wrote: Stuns are not really a problem. Unless you have arthritis it is going to be pretty much as fast as blink ultying. It's .2s or .3s slower (Liquipedia contradicts itself) which means it will come out after the cast frontswing of most other heroes. | ||
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AkipAkip
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
But it's also quite annoying as you need to stay surprisingly close to trees for it to stick (feels the range has been nerfed from the old spell). I lost my invis a lot while walking in the jungle. He's very strong in lane though, for sure. The 20% 2s bash at level 25 is ridiculous on a "carry" build. And he also gets +65 dmg or something along the way. Om nom nom. | ||
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Pontual
Brazil3038 Posts
Is this the best treant carry build? Would mordiggian be a good pick up as well? (it would be close to be a burst with echo) Midas might be a good way to get fast levels + help attack speed + accelerate farm even | ||
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Jisira
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Pontual
Brazil3038 Posts
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
I carried really hard with treads -> echo -> blademail -> AC -> bloodthorne -> satanic. +65 dmg and 20% 2s bash, ofc. Also I made a Helm of a dominator somewhere along the way, OP regen and nice to scout roshan. But yeah, I mean it worked on that game (we had slardar, they had LC + lycan), probably wouldn't have on a different setup. Was quite fun tho :> | ||
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FuzioNda1337
Sweden159 Posts
Echosaber would suit well for the mana regen needed. battlfury would be niche/farm pickup and works well with change on his ultimate to cleave. and to increase his farmrate. bkb is an obvious one. However for attackspeed i would go with mjollnir. due to he himself is great target to apply it on. and the bounces on attack during ult is great damage. for him. Problem comes that he dont have much armor as most str heroes and will need some sort of armor item, ac feels like an overkill on his attackspeed but certainly is viable but i mean this is alot of gold. I just dont feel treant ever will be a good carry.especially since at highground pushes, there is no trees to abuse his natures guise wich might seem little but its kinda big. if i would ever play him as right clicker it would be more like a disruptor durable tank like, sb armor ms and as is his weakness damage is not somthing you will need, if anything it would be crit or mkb. | ||
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Pontual
Brazil3038 Posts
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
On December 13 2016 00:15 Pontual wrote: It helps with overall attack speed tho + it helps with team fighting so you can run people down and be harder to be kited with force staffs and slows. While blink also helps with mobility, it don't have synergy with the nature's desguise, wich would be your main way of initiation. Nature's guise requires you to be very close to trees, and in many spots on the map there are gaps that you can't cross without becoming visible and losing your bash. Blink mitigates this, and also allows you to get in great position to ult + whack people in teamfights. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
On December 13 2016 05:03 xxpack09 wrote: Nature's guise requires you to be very close to trees, and in many spots on the map there are gaps that you can't cross without becoming visible and losing your bash. Blink mitigates this, and also allows you to get in great position to ult + whack people in teamfights. uhh the best way to medigate this is to buy branches and plant trees along the way. Even in old patch I did some rediculously troll build with treant ganking mid with iron branch to get closer in range to cast my leech seed from invis xD | ||
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
and xD at the iron branch mid, good idea ^^ Doesn't work with MK treeform btw. | ||
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FuzioNda1337
Sweden159 Posts
like a clumb in 4 places that dont obscure vision to much. Would not be to much to ask for tbh  | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
his bash stack with abyssal bash, so I think... you just go mjonir abyssal on this guy and you can stun lock for days, you have abyssal stun, abyssal proc stun, your innate proc stun, and ultimate if things gets tricky, honestly the best lockdown hero in the game if you can get the first abyssal hit in. Its like the old troll from dota 1 lul. Pretty sure it's not that good higher skill lvl but for lulul it's amazing fun https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2842700006 You're the biggest AM counter right now, you just sit in his jungle wait for him to farm neutrals, come out of invis stun him 2 sec, echo sabre hit some more, turn on ult, some more echo sabr hit, dead hero. | ||
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Pontual
Brazil3038 Posts
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
On December 13 2016 21:01 evanthebouncy! wrote: honestly the best lockdown hero in the game if you can get the first abyssal hit in. Or just use a dagger from tree invis -> guaranteed first hit 2s bash. Because the invis lingers a bit (and so does the bash attached to attacking from invis). I played him some more yesterday (power treads / echo sabre / dagger / blademail / ac), this guy is indeed quite the roamer / semi-carry now. And dat ms while invis /drool | ||
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bdonballer
United States408 Posts
10 in a row with treant. Pretty much get aghs, steal enemies gem. EZ win | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6222 Posts
It decloaks randomly so often in the new jungle, and I swear there are gaps that sometimes you can cross and sometimes you can't. I have no confidence sneaking around enemy heroes anymore. | ||
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