EPTEvery time my first medium camp stack as Axe is Centaurs+Wolves, I want to throw my keyboard and ragequit. 2/25 chance of instantly losing the game (or at least having a really shitty time).
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Every time my first medium camp stack as Axe is Centaurs+Wolves, I want to throw my keyboard and ragequit. 2/25 chance of instantly losing the game (or at least having a really shitty time). | ||
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negon
212 Posts
Not really "math", just your own judgment. | ||
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DW-Unrec
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
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DW-Unrec
492 Posts
On April 20 2013 09:09 mizU wrote: No mek or vlads? depends of the matchup, but I dont get mekans very often, I dont find it very useful | ||
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Cyx.
Canada806 Posts
On April 20 2013 09:07 DW-Unrec wrote: how do you guys think meepo should behave in teamfights? So far I have simply avoided every single fight that consists of 4 or more heroes fighting 4 allies, so I've been doing pushes instead. I usually have a reaver, aghanim and tranquil when my team starts missing me on teamfights, but I always feel like I'm gonna get stunned and zapped to death, which many times I do If you don't have another big initiator on your team, get blink and start the fight when you see the other team in a bad position with net and poof. You can do enough damage to take a couple heroes out of the fight when you have aghs and level 16, making it a lot less scary for you. If you do, wait for them to start and get focused, then follow up with a good net and mass poof into just smacking whoever needs to die. Especially with reaver you're not going to get nuked to death too hard at that point so play ballsy and start the teamfights in a good way for your team. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On April 20 2013 08:48 synapse wrote: Not entirely, but it's definitely a big factor. Damned hellbears destroying hopes and dreams. I jungle mostly with enchant & chen, damn the fucking mud shit! Specially with Chen, as I'm not very good with him, how can you gang without ursas, trolls or centaur if the lane does not have good cc? Also as Chen I never gank the offlane as it seems so far away, should I try to smoke? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 20 2013 13:21 nojok wrote: I jungle mostly with enchant & chen, damn the fucking mud shit! Specially with Chen, as I'm not very good with him, how can you gang without ursas, trolls or centaur if the lane does not have good cc? Also as Chen I never gank the offlane as it seems so far away, should I try to smoke? Well if you get Wildkins or Satyrs you just get 6 minute level 6 and Mek by 10 mins because they both farm stupid fast lol. | ||
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Mandini
United States1717 Posts
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
Yes, trolls are fantastic; skeletons for taking extra tower hits/tanking in jungle, net for ganks. They're pretty great. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On April 20 2013 13:25 TheYango wrote: Well if you get Wildkins or Satyrs you just get 6 minute level 6 and Mek by 10 mins because they both farm stupid fast lol. For wildkins you recommend to stack one camp & tornade it? I often do this if I'm close to stack moment but I don't know if it's optimal. Thank you for the help. I managed to pull some very early meks but it means I skip mana boots & if the team does not wwant to group & abuse it I often feel like I should have gone mana boots before mek. But yeah if they come to push it's all outer towers down before min 15 + rosh :D | ||
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ZerG~LegenD
Sweden1179 Posts
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Raejden
Austria12 Posts
Every time my first medium camp stack as Axe is Centaurs+Wolves, I want to throw my keyboard and ragequit. 2/25 chance of instantly losing the game (or at least having a really shitty time). Besides the fact that I don't think Axe is a very good jungler, aren't wolves one of the best camps he can get early? | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On April 20 2013 18:10 Raejden wrote: Besides the fact that I don't think Axe is a very good jungler, aren't wolves one of the best camps he can get early? Satyrs are totally the best camp | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34504 Posts
On April 20 2013 18:10 Raejden wrote: Besides the fact that I don't think Axe is a very good jungler, aren't wolves one of the best camps he can get early? Although I don't know the math, wolves do quite a bit of damage, so I find that quite unlikely when compared to the Satyrs or Ogres. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Raejden
Austria12 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34504 Posts
On April 20 2013 18:21 Raejden wrote: Yeah I understand that they can hurt him rather bad, but wolves arent very tanky, and it's a stack of three creeps, which is far easier for axe than Centaurs for example. Yes, they are easier than Centaurs, but they are still the second hardest medium creep camp. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Creeps Yeah big centaur does 49-55 (30 damage 84%). Wolf does 30-33 + crit + aura Ogres, satyr mana burner do 24-27 (So 4-7 damage 84% of the time) Golems do 29-33 (9-13 damage 84%). So centaurs do like 6x as much damage as most creeps. | ||
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Cirn9
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