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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 12:33:40
January 13 2013 00:09 GMT
#5961
On January 13 2013 04:33 Rodberd wrote:
i saw merlini play lion just a few mins ago, i play that hero as well since some days.
merlini went into phaseboots, i usually prefer arcanes.
i know lion could drain the mana from range creeps, heros etc pp but in pubs the people never keep the ranges alive so i cant leech.
whats your advice here? keep arcane or go into phaseboots and try to get a spike+drain combo and such to keep the mana high?


About watching merlini's, a quick pointer is that he likes to build his heroes just like the way they used to be built right around the era when merlini left dota1. There were only 3 boots back then, PT, BoT and the relatively new Phaseboots which is the cheapest among them. Most supportive heroes went phaseboots or some of them go arcane ring (which later became today's arcane boots). His BoT build on almost all range heroes is also a 'leftover' habit from his era.

It depends on game that how much skillpoint you would invest in manadrain, it depends on how long are you going to stay on the lane in early game. And generally speaking you should go manaboots because lion's spells are expensive unless you have 2/3 arcanes in team already.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
January 13 2013 00:34 GMT
#5962
I was so happy when arcane ring was removed and arcane boots were introduced.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 13 2013 00:35 GMT
#5963
What was Arcane Ring?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 13 2013 00:40 GMT
#5964
On January 13 2013 09:35 PassiveAce wrote:
What was Arcane Ring?

An item which functioned like arcane boots, but without the movespeed. It still exists in HoN (http://honwiki.net/wiki/Ring_of_Sorcery)
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Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
January 13 2013 01:09 GMT
#5965
Can you use bottle on lone druids bear and can you pick up runes with the bottle?
Whats the altitude?
Boo.Crazy
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden21 Posts
January 13 2013 03:23 GMT
#5966
Does miss stack guys? Like: Laser (Tinker ), Drunken Haze (Panda) , Incapacitating Bite ( Broodmother ) ,Whirling Axes Melee ( Troll ), Smoke ( Riki ) , and Fear ( Bala ) .I always wonder that, which build is the best build for Alch,Sven? ( DPS )
Thx for ur time :D
The prophecy is uncertain. There is always hope
goal 888
Profile Joined April 2011
167 Posts
January 13 2013 03:58 GMT
#5967
Is there a smart cast like in LoL?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
January 13 2013 03:59 GMT
#5968
On January 13 2013 12:58 goal 888 wrote:
Is there a smart cast like in LoL?

Best way to ask this is to clarify exactly what smart cast is so we can tell you ^_^
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goal 888
Profile Joined April 2011
167 Posts
January 13 2013 04:06 GMT
#5969
On January 13 2013 12:59 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 12:58 goal 888 wrote:
Is there a smart cast like in LoL?

Best way to ask this is to clarify exactly what smart cast is so we can tell you ^_^

In LoL there was a way to simply press q and it would cast q on whatever unit your mouse was over.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 13 2013 04:06 GMT
#5970
On January 13 2013 12:58 goal 888 wrote:
Is there a smart cast like in LoL?

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/satkp/guide_lolstyled_smartcasting/
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LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 04:07:37
January 13 2013 04:06 GMT
#5971
On January 13 2013 12:58 goal 888 wrote:
Is there a smart cast like in LoL?

Don't think so

Smart casting is when the targeted skills automatically go off when you press whatever the hotkey is. Like invoker's sunstrike going off the second you press the hotkey where your mouse is placed, pretty much takes less time to press hotkey instead of hotkey-click

Edit:
On January 13 2013 13:06 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 12:58 goal 888 wrote:
Is there a smart cast like in LoL?

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/satkp/guide_lolstyled_smartcasting/

Thanks!
goal 888
Profile Joined April 2011
167 Posts
January 13 2013 04:08 GMT
#5972
On January 13 2013 13:06 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 12:58 goal 888 wrote:
Is there a smart cast like in LoL?

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/satkp/guide_lolstyled_smartcasting/

Thanks
goal 888
Profile Joined April 2011
167 Posts
January 13 2013 04:16 GMT
#5973
On January 13 2013 13:06 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 12:58 goal 888 wrote:
Is there a smart cast like in LoL?

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/satkp/guide_lolstyled_smartcasting/

How do i get this into Dota all i can do is look at a whole bunch of text? Do i need to copy paste it somewhere?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 13 2013 04:56 GMT
#5974
On January 13 2013 13:16 goal 888 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 13:06 TheYango wrote:
On January 13 2013 12:58 goal 888 wrote:
Is there a smart cast like in LoL?

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/satkp/guide_lolstyled_smartcasting/

How do i get this into Dota all i can do is look at a whole bunch of text? Do i need to copy paste it somewhere?

Hmm, the dev forum thread had instructions, but doesn't seem to exist anymore.

You need to copy/paste this to config.cfg or autoconfig.cfg in your dota 2 beta/dota/cfg directory. Also follow the instructions in the file itself to change the binds (and unbind the keys you want to use in game).
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tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
January 13 2013 06:11 GMT
#5975
On January 13 2013 13:56 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 13:16 goal 888 wrote:
On January 13 2013 13:06 TheYango wrote:
On January 13 2013 12:58 goal 888 wrote:
Is there a smart cast like in LoL?

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/satkp/guide_lolstyled_smartcasting/

How do i get this into Dota all i can do is look at a whole bunch of text? Do i need to copy paste it somewhere?

Hmm, the dev forum thread had instructions, but doesn't seem to exist anymore.

You need to copy/paste this to config.cfg or autoconfig.cfg in your dota 2 beta/dota/cfg directory. Also follow the instructions in the file itself to change the binds (and unbind the keys you want to use in game).

The dev forum post has been removed but the pastebin files that it was based on are still around.

General Settings file:
http://pastebin.com/kxd5aqxK

Smart cast files:
http://pastebin.com/dLPLFZ89 (On by default)
http://pastebin.com/Ps5GT4gN (Off by default)
Road to 6sange
WladimirUN
Profile Joined February 2005
Germany67 Posts
January 13 2013 09:43 GMT
#5976
after getting into windrunner i really start to like her as a support hero and her skills are just amazing!
now i'm just wondering, as for the item build:
at boots i decide between phase/mana boots if there is a manahungry hero in the lineup like magnus
if no mana boots i go ring of basilus for some manareg

now i'm just wondering, as i like to go force staff afterwards to help people escape / try to pull an enemy hero to our team (ok in pubs at my level (low) that just leaves i guess 9 other players surprised )

with powershot i often get kills (even though sometimes it feels like stealing :$) but i'm wondering what items i should prioritise after the boots? ofc thats situational (like one bracers in if there is zeus or other nukers)
mek, pipe, forcestaff, euls, hex, necro book (if there is e.g. bountyhunter - is it "cost effective"? its 5200 gold for lvl 3 and true sight or better just use dust - but that takes an inventory slot) - and ofc warding all game.

so i'm wondering, as there are only 6 itemslots - and for tp scroll / wards / dust many are used up already and i effectively have only 4 slots :/ so say arcane boots, bracer, forcestaff, euls and then i'm just a big question mark

thanks already for some tipps and some more insight!
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
January 13 2013 09:59 GMT
#5977
On January 13 2013 12:23 Boo.Crazy wrote:
Does miss stack guys? Like: Laser (Tinker ), Drunken Haze (Panda) , Incapacitating Bite ( Broodmother ) ,Whirling Axes Melee ( Troll ), Smoke ( Riki ) , and Fear ( Bala ) .I always wonder that, which build is the best build for Alch,Sven? ( DPS )
Thx for ur time :D


yes, it does


On January 13 2013 10:09 Chewits wrote:
Can you use bottle on lone druids bear and can you pick up runes with the bottle?


afaik, you can use bottle on the bear and take runes, but since you cant switch the bottle around with the rune in it its no use, except refilling your bottle. And bear can't use illusion and dd runes I think
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
January 13 2013 11:35 GMT
#5978
On January 13 2013 18:43 WladimirUN wrote:
after getting into windrunner i really start to like her as a support hero and her skills are just amazing!
now i'm just wondering, as for the item build:
at boots i decide between phase/mana boots if there is a manahungry hero in the lineup like magnus
if no mana boots i go ring of basilus for some manareg

now i'm just wondering, as i like to go force staff afterwards to help people escape / try to pull an enemy hero to our team (ok in pubs at my level (low) that just leaves i guess 9 other players surprised )

with powershot i often get kills (even though sometimes it feels like stealing :$) but i'm wondering what items i should prioritise after the boots? ofc thats situational (like one bracers in if there is zeus or other nukers)
mek, pipe, forcestaff, euls, hex, necro book (if there is e.g. bountyhunter - is it "cost effective"? its 5200 gold for lvl 3 and true sight or better just use dust - but that takes an inventory slot) - and ofc warding all game.

so i'm wondering, as there are only 6 itemslots - and for tp scroll / wards / dust many are used up already and i effectively have only 4 slots :/ so say arcane boots, bracer, forcestaff, euls and then i'm just a big question mark

thanks already for some tipps and some more insight!

A build that I've grown to love is:
Phase Boots->Ring of Basilius->Magic Wand->Mekansm->Force Staff->Sheep Stick (substituting RoB+Phase for Arcane boots is reasonably common)

I'm pretty sure this build is quite standard.

The magic wand, even if it only has ~3 charges, will always give you more survivability than a bracer. The burst heal, and bonus armor from Meka and RoB will give you a lot of survivability in team fights/ganks and the mobility from force staff is excellent for landing shackles and just team fights in general. It is also an item that seems more useful the better you get at dota. The sheep stick speaks for itself.

I prefer phase over mana boots (although it is situational) because I feel the mobility of phase boots synergizes well with shackle shot, and the bonus damage is particularly good on windrunner because of her low base attack time and 600 range.

The biggest problem with this build is that you need to be particularly careful with your mana.
Road to 6sange
Baggage
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong593 Posts
January 13 2013 12:02 GMT
#5979
That's a pretty standard WR build. I usually prefer an earlier Ring of Basilius due to WR's low base armor. Starting off with a Ring of Protection allows you to withstand a lot of bullying from enemy supports if you're long lane solo. Other cool tricks with Ring of Basilius is toggling it on and off when your creeps are underneath the enemy tower (the bonus armor it gives to creeps makes it a lot trickier for the enemy to last hit).

Also, pre-upgraded boots (or extending to Arcane Boots), you can abuse the ability to disassemble Ring of Basilius/Tranquil Boots. Just pick up a Ring of Regeneration then disassemble RoB --> Tranquil when you need hp and vice versa when you need mana. Later on the Ring of Regeneration can be built into Mek/Force Staff/Hood of Defiance.

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WladimirUN
Profile Joined February 2005
Germany67 Posts
January 13 2013 13:24 GMT
#5980
nice tricks there
but my problem is that i effectively can only use 4 slots - as two are used by support stuff like townportal, wards, sentrys, dust, smoke - its nothing more annoying than needing some sentrys but having no slot in the inventory

thats why i'm asking what would u prioritise - i'm thinking now that mana boots help more there as it uses one slot and you can skip the RoB - and as support the dmg is not that important - the skills are more. so mana boots, force staff, mek, euls/sheepstick?
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