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On January 07 2013 12:03 Kanaz wrote: So i got a question who isn't quite about dota, but more of a biproduct of playing dota. So in dota i use right click a lot on my mouse, and now my mouse will not react sometimes when i right click, because the right button is "stuck" but will eventually get up. Do any of you experience the same - and is there a fix you can do, or just get a new mouse? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=174311
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What should I do if I have to go suicide lane with Zeus?
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Not ideal but eh. Stay far back, start with a bunch of clarities, only go for last hits with chain lightning if enemy supports are missing, rush them boots for additional mobility.
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On void, since wc3 dota, I'm getting madness + butter/buriza everytime but now I see a lot of battlefury builds with bkb. Is bf the standard build now? I don't like getting the voidstone, even as a last component.
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You get it for the same reason as bfury on AM. You get it asap by the ~17 minute mark to heavily accelerate your farm. The void stone is actually useful to allow you to timewalk from camp to camp in the jungle. You get it, avoid teamfights (though not as much as an AM would since you have an amazing teamfight spell in chronosphere), farm up a fast bkb/bfly/mkb/daedalus/manta in the next few minutes and then rape everything.
Madness is not so good because people have learned to just focus you down during it. It's situationally good if you're confident in catching every single one of your enemies in your chronosphere, or if they have no disables, but that's the minority of games.
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On January 07 2013 12:16 Firebolt145 wrote: Not ideal but eh. Stay far back, start with a bunch of clarities, only go for last hits with chain lightning if enemy supports are missing, rush them boots for additional mobility. u mean only go in for last hits if the enemy supports are on the map lol but yeah pretty much the same thing yu do with any other suicide laner, hide near the tower for forever
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So I figured I'd try a new hero today and chose Spectre. Had a fairly successful game getting bfury and then diffusal and then manta, but it didn't feel that efficient. Is bfury a good item to get on her? I feel as though she doesn't have the damage to make good use of diffusal blade like Riki. What are some more effective ways to approach this hero?
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On January 04 2013 23:52 PassiveAce wrote: Can someone tell me how to play Huskar? I only play him when I random him but I have 100% feed rate with him. I know your just supposed to go urn then armlet basically but I just cant seem to get the hang of the particular style you have to play with him. Does anyone have any simple advice for not feeding with Husk?
the way I like to play him is 0 points on Spear until lvl21, start with 4 gauntlet (or 3 gauntlet+3gg branch), rush HotD then PT and start ganking everywhere at level 7 with max Berseker Blood (E). After that its situtational what item to buy though BKB/Armlet is pretty good 3rd/4th item, Agh if you feel like jumping around every 4 seconds, complete your Satanic or get damage item like Daedulus
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On January 07 2013 15:35 RuiBarbO wrote: So I figured I'd try a new hero today and chose Spectre. Had a fairly successful game getting bfury and then diffusal and then manta, but it didn't feel that efficient. Is bfury a good item to get on her? I feel as though she doesn't have the damage to make good use of diffusal blade like Riki. What are some more effective ways to approach this hero? Nope, Bfury is a pretty bad item on her, the preferred farming item on her is radiance, into carry things and diffusal. Diffusal is a strong item on her due to her ult giving her 5 illusions. Mostly tanky items after that to stay alive and to maximize your mileage from distortion.
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On January 07 2013 15:35 RuiBarbO wrote: So I figured I'd try a new hero today and chose Spectre. Had a fairly successful game getting bfury and then diffusal and then manta, but it didn't feel that efficient. Is bfury a good item to get on her? I feel as though she doesn't have the damage to make good use of diffusal blade like Riki. What are some more effective ways to approach this hero? If you want to farm up and go late, you go radiance into heart most of the time and then get some items that synergize with your hero like diffusal/manta. If you want to fight early, you go phase/treads->Janggo->Diffusal->Yasha/manta.
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On January 07 2013 16:12 LazyFailKid wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2013 15:35 RuiBarbO wrote: So I figured I'd try a new hero today and chose Spectre. Had a fairly successful game getting bfury and then diffusal and then manta, but it didn't feel that efficient. Is bfury a good item to get on her? I feel as though she doesn't have the damage to make good use of diffusal blade like Riki. What are some more effective ways to approach this hero? Nope, Bfury is a pretty bad item on her, the preferred farming item on her is radiance, into carry things and diffusal. Diffusal is a strong item on her due to her ult giving her 5 illusions. Mostly tanky items after that to stay alive and to maximize your mileage from distortion.
On January 07 2013 16:21 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2013 15:35 RuiBarbO wrote: So I figured I'd try a new hero today and chose Spectre. Had a fairly successful game getting bfury and then diffusal and then manta, but it didn't feel that efficient. Is bfury a good item to get on her? I feel as though she doesn't have the damage to make good use of diffusal blade like Riki. What are some more effective ways to approach this hero? If you want to farm up and go late, you go radiance into heart most of the time and then get some items that synergize with your hero like diffusal/manta. If you want to fight early, you go phase/treads->Janggo->Diffusal->Yasha/manta.
Cool, thanks for the advice. Out of curiosity, why is bfury so bad on Spectre? I think of it as an item that lets melee carries farm faster and Spectre is melee. Is it that radiance is the more effective farming tool for her? Also what is it about her ult that makes diffusal good? I get that you can jump to a solitary enemy hero but I feel like Spectre alone doesn't have the damage output to kill them even with the slow.
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Something to do with her BAT/Attack speed, she doesnt hit fast enough to utilise that cleave and she lacks of mobility to move quickly between farming spots. Spec is about hitting hard so Radi gives very good damage for her and together with diffu both items work very well with her ulti and then you make her tanky to utilise her dispersion plus Radi burns so hard 24/7 making her one of the ultimate late game carries.
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On January 07 2013 16:35 RuiBarbO wrote: Cool, thanks for the advice. Out of curiosity, why is bfury so bad on Spectre? I think of it as an item that lets melee carries farm faster and Spectre is melee. Is it that radiance is the more effective farming tool for her? Also what is it about her ult that makes diffusal good? I get that you can jump to a solitary enemy hero but I feel like Spectre alone doesn't have the damage output to kill them even with the slow.
Feedback is the only orb that can be used by Illusions, which means that Diffusal is the most cost-effective damage increase when you take Spectre's ult into account--especially considering that the illusions don't disappear when you cast Reality.
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And she'll be building a mantastyle most likely as well, since illusions benefit from desolate as well as feedback.
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bfury works but it's not as strong as radi, since the burn works on your illusions and it makes you farm really fast manta is generally more important than diffusal on spec, unless you really need the purge
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On January 07 2013 16:10 sandyph wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 23:52 PassiveAce wrote: Can someone tell me how to play Huskar? I only play him when I random him but I have 100% feed rate with him. I know your just supposed to go urn then armlet basically but I just cant seem to get the hang of the particular style you have to play with him. Does anyone have any simple advice for not feeding with Husk? the way I like to play him is 0 points on Spear until lvl21, start with 4 gauntlet (or 3 gauntlet+3gg branch), rush HotD then PT and start ganking everywhere at level 7 with max Berseker Blood (E). After that its situtational what item to buy though BKB/Armlet is pretty good 3rd/4th item, Agh if you feel like jumping around every 4 seconds, complete your Satanic or get damage item like Daedulus I'd say getting spears at level 1 is ideal, it has its uses. You can orb-walk harass, you can attack even if you're banished and you can reduce your hp to farm faster.
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On January 07 2013 18:36 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2013 16:10 sandyph wrote:On January 04 2013 23:52 PassiveAce wrote: Can someone tell me how to play Huskar? I only play him when I random him but I have 100% feed rate with him. I know your just supposed to go urn then armlet basically but I just cant seem to get the hang of the particular style you have to play with him. Does anyone have any simple advice for not feeding with Husk? the way I like to play him is 0 points on Spear until lvl21, start with 4 gauntlet (or 3 gauntlet+3gg branch), rush HotD then PT and start ganking everywhere at level 7 with max Berseker Blood (E). After that its situtational what item to buy though BKB/Armlet is pretty good 3rd/4th item, Agh if you feel like jumping around every 4 seconds, complete your Satanic or get damage item like Daedulus I'd say getting spears at level 1 is ideal, it has its uses. You can orb-walk harass, you can attack even if you're banished and you can reduce your hp to farm faster. Spear also has 50 longer range than his normal autoattack, which is relevant in a lot of scenarios, particularly in lane.
1 point Spear is fairly common, but 0 points is a bit silly given how useful having just the 1 point is in lane compared to the other 2 skills.
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the reason for skipping spears for me is to get max Beserker Blood and 2 level of Inner Vitality + Ulti at level 7 which is when I should at least halfway to the rushed HotD, works well when playing on sidelane though where easier to lane control without Burning Spears.
If you go mid a point in Burning Spear would be good since you can get to 8 faster compared to sidelines
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Only problem with 1 point is that you almost take as much damage as it deals. Level 2 is ideal but you don't really want to delay your other skills that much
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On January 07 2013 20:39 KOFgokuon wrote: Only problem with 1 point is that you almost take as much damage as it deals. Not really that big of a deal, seeing as it's still 50 range longer than your autoattack and an orb.
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