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TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
January 04 2013 14:44 GMT
#5721
On January 04 2013 23:06 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
1. Was the nerf to veno really so harsh that he's no longer a viable pick for 5th position? Just a few months ago I think I saw him at least a few times, now he's never picked.

2. Why isn't bloodseeker a viable semi carry pro level? I get why he's not a very good ganker solo but he has really good stats and the skills to be both a huge single target dps source as well as a superb laner. But the biggest thing should be that if you lose a skirmish against his team he will easily clean house with the leftovers.

On this note, why isn't huskar played at all competitively? He seems to be a pretty strong DPS carry with amazing ganking potential in the late game. I know pub stomper doesn't have to transfer to solid pick in a pro game but still.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 04 2013 14:47 GMT
#5722
Huskar needs to be at low HP to maximize his DPS = really bad thing in pro games. Also no push, no teamfight spells, slow famr speed
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 04 2013 14:52 GMT
#5723
Can someone tell me how to play Huskar? I only play him when I random him but I have 100% feed rate with him. I know your just supposed to go urn then armlet basically but I just cant seem to get the hang of the particular style you have to play with him. Does anyone have any simple advice for not feeding with Husk?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 04 2013 15:00 GMT
#5724
On January 04 2013 23:06 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
1. Was the nerf to veno really so harsh that he's no longer a viable pick for 5th position? Just a few months ago I think I saw him at least a few times, now he's never picked.

Veno's biggest practical use in 6.74 was his ability to slow down big pushes. He doesn't have any hard disables or large burst damage. In 6.75+, the game has shifted away from the push-heavy playstyle of 6.73-6.74 into a more gank/teamfight oriented playstyle, so Veno's usefulness has diminished.

On January 04 2013 23:06 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
2. Why isn't bloodseeker a viable semi carry pro level? I get why he's not a very good ganker solo but he has really good stats and the skills to be both a huge single target dps source as well as a superb laner. But the biggest thing should be that if you lose a skirmish against his team he will easily clean house with the leftovers.

What does he offer as a semicarry? He has 2 abilities that only have usefulness for cleanup power, and the other two aren't outstanding teamfight abilities. Being able to vulture kills like that is useful in pubs, less so in coordinated play.
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VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
January 04 2013 15:01 GMT
#5725
the secret is to be always low hp
by low hp i mean 60%

u boost ur second and third skill max with ult, and u make a looooot of damage just with threads / urn ^^
imagine when u get armlet...

this hero is particular. When u have a good start it will be ok for you all game long
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Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 16:23:21
January 04 2013 16:22 GMT
#5726
On January 04 2013 23:52 PassiveAce wrote:
Can someone tell me how to play Huskar? I only play him when I random him but I have 100% feed rate with him. I know your just supposed to go urn then armlet basically but I just cant seem to get the hang of the particular style you have to play with him. Does anyone have any simple advice for not feeding with Husk?


Go mid against Pudge or another melee. Start with three Gauntlets, one point in arrows. Harass the enemy away and then farm a Morbid Mask. Hit level 6/7 with 1 point in arrows, 1 point in heal, 3/4 in passive, 1 in ult, go to sidelane, get a double kill. Buy boots. Go to other sidelane, get a double kill, finish HoD. Get more kills, finish Treads. Get more kills, get better items (Satanic, Armlet, Heart, etc).
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
January 04 2013 17:56 GMT
#5727
Get aghanims and jump a new target every 4 seconds and pretend to be hurdle racer?

But really, he has low range and not that good armor, and must build bkb or be useless.
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
January 05 2013 03:58 GMT
#5728
Does BKB remove the freezing aura from shiva's?
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
January 05 2013 10:23 GMT
#5729
Why do you put items on the bear for LD and put all your eggs in that basket?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
January 05 2013 10:34 GMT
#5730
On January 05 2013 19:23 Fruscainte wrote:
Why do you put items on the bear for LD and put all your eggs in that basket?

Because it's a pretty damn tanky, fast and angry basket. And it has two lives.

(Lategame it's pretty common to shove some items from the bear to LD, especially when it's on cooldown.)
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
January 05 2013 11:41 GMT
#5731
On January 05 2013 19:23 Fruscainte wrote:
Why do you put items on the bear for LD and put all your eggs in that basket?

Bear is faster, has lower BAT and can be resummoned and is very tanky compared to LD early on.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
January 05 2013 13:15 GMT
#5732
1.) What item should Nyx get if the early game didn't go smoothly, barely farm and underleveled? Should I still go for dagon eventhough it wouldn't be effective since the opponents got higher level and better items? or try to rush for hex?

2.) Nyx core item in competitive play?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 05 2013 13:18 GMT
#5733
Because if the bear dies, you don't die. You can put the items on the bear, stand in a safe spot and let the bear do its work. It works exceptionally well with sieging towers and Radiance. Remember that your bear doesn't need to attack to use the radiance burn, this leads to safe splitpushing.

On January 05 2013 22:15 WetSocks wrote:
1.) What item should Nyx get if the early game didn't go smoothly, barely farm and underleveled? Should I still go for dagon eventhough it wouldn't be effective since the opponents got higher level and better items? or try to rush for hex?

2.) Nyx core item in competitive play?

Arcane boots are core, his mana pool is rather shitty. It depends on whether you played mid or nyx as a support, nyx is more commonly played as a support. In which case Arcane boots Force Staff I would reccomend as a core, don't forget to always get a wand or a stick though.
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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
January 05 2013 16:32 GMT
#5734
On January 05 2013 00:00 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 23:06 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
1. Was the nerf to veno really so harsh that he's no longer a viable pick for 5th position? Just a few months ago I think I saw him at least a few times, now he's never picked.

Veno's biggest practical use in 6.74 was his ability to slow down big pushes. He doesn't have any hard disables or large burst damage. In 6.75+, the game has shifted away from the push-heavy playstyle of 6.73-6.74 into a more gank/teamfight oriented playstyle, so Veno's usefulness has diminished.

Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 23:06 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
2. Why isn't bloodseeker a viable semi carry pro level? I get why he's not a very good ganker solo but he has really good stats and the skills to be both a huge single target dps source as well as a superb laner. But the biggest thing should be that if you lose a skirmish against his team he will easily clean house with the leftovers.

What does he offer as a semicarry? He has 2 abilities that only have usefulness for cleanup power, and the other two aren't outstanding teamfight abilities. Being able to vulture kills like that is useful in pubs, less so in coordinated play.

People prefer supports with hard disables these days, and preferably aoe. And the changes to picks bans usually leaves support unbanned, so people just pick out high tier support.

And gale won't help much against a nightstalker, dark seer, ta with phase, even bh.

He might make a comeback if people keep picking sf mid.
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 17:03:30
January 05 2013 17:02 GMT
#5735
had a great game today with phantom lancer , with a new build , going diffusal -> Heart of Tarrasque -> Armlet of Mordiggian. The damage and tankiness the illusions had with permanently activated armlet was insane. is this viable or am i missing something?
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 05 2013 17:10 GMT
#5736
Everything's viable in pubs. Making the Illus super tanky and burn mana is a way to go with PL for sure.
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Cyx.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada806 Posts
January 05 2013 17:15 GMT
#5737
On January 06 2013 02:02 Irratonalys wrote:
had a great game today with phantom lancer , with a new build , going diffusal -> Heart of Tarrasque -> Armlet of Mordiggian. The damage and tankiness the illusions had with permanently activated armlet was insane. is this viable or am i missing something?

The armlet seems a bit redundant after the heart but if you swapped those two around it could be a build that is really effective in the midgame and also transitions pretty well to late game, I might try it out =D
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
January 05 2013 17:20 GMT
#5738
The armlet seems a bit redundant after the heart but if you swapped those two around it could be a build that is really effective in the midgame and also transitions pretty well to late game, I might try it out =D


well , the trick is that you never have to switch the armlet off because Hearts regeneration is greater than armlets drain. i think your too squishy to use it before heart. but try it out. The illusion army all with purple glowing bracers sure looks intimidating ^^
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 05 2013 19:36 GMT
#5739
On January 06 2013 02:02 Irratonalys wrote:
had a great game today with phantom lancer , with a new build , going diffusal -> Heart of Tarrasque -> Armlet of Mordiggian. The damage and tankiness the illusions had with permanently activated armlet was insane. is this viable or am i missing something?

an earlier butterfly would be better ~~
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 05 2013 19:54 GMT
#5740
On January 05 2013 20:41 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 19:23 Fruscainte wrote:
Why do you put items on the bear for LD and put all your eggs in that basket?

Bear is faster, has lower BAT and can be resummoned and is very tanky compared to LD early on.


What is the Bear's BAT? Lone Druid has 1.5 in true form and I thought the bear was 1.7.
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