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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
December 26 2012 22:54 GMT
#5481
Well, i buy practically all tournament tickets So i forgot about that issue.
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-27 01:54:40
December 27 2012 01:52 GMT
#5482
What items should you aim for as a laning (1v2) Lone Druid? I know it's variable, but some options would be nice as I'm completely lost. I see people getting like non-upgraded boots on bear, then some minor item for the hero, then just a plain hyperstone on the bear...is there a method to this madness? I know attack speed is good for the bear, but that's about it, and it seems like not upgrading the hyperstone is a waste...but what do I know.

Also, when (if at all) should you stop putting items on the bear, and focus on items for the hero?
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-27 14:35:17
December 27 2012 02:07 GMT
#5483
On December 27 2012 10:52 Whole wrote:
What items should you aim for as a laning (1v2) Lone Druid? I know it's variable, but some options would be nice as I'm completely lost. I see people getting like non-upgraded boots on bear, then some minor item for the hero, then just a plain hyperstone on the bear...is there a method to this madness? I know attack speed is good for the bear, but that's about it, and it seems like not upgrading the hyperstone is a waste...but what do I know.

Also, when (if at all) should you stop putting items on the bear, and focus on items for the hero?


I would suggest starting with a Stout shield(on bear), few branches and regen on your hero. You eventually want to get Tranquil Boots on sylla, and then orb of venom +boots (regular then phase) on your bear. I'll usually get Orb and continue harassing, then Tranquils.

Hyperstone and pure attack speed stacking on the bear are a thing of the past, really oldschool. Wouldn't recommend in the slightest, just go with the basic I listed above (even OrboV is a luxury to be honest) then standard is Radiance into Assault Cuirass.

*Edit* - Yeah Mjollnir is a great alternative if you're behind. Also your main items on Sylla will only be Tranquil + Wand + Cloak and a TP Scroll for a long time.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8940 Posts
December 27 2012 02:51 GMT
#5484
best 1v2 hero in the game will always be ds
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 27 2012 02:59 GMT
#5485
On December 27 2012 11:51 evilfatsh1t wrote:
best 1v2 hero in the game will always be ds

Depends if they have a solid stunner as a support. If they just have slows, you should win most 1v2s. Not so fun with rubick and such.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
December 27 2012 03:25 GMT
#5486
If they have spells that prevent you from surging away (disruption telekinesis etc) ds can be in a world of hurt
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
December 27 2012 04:05 GMT
#5487
Guys........the question has nothing to do with what's the best 2v1 hero. Stop derailing the thread. Evilfatsh1t that post literally has no place in this thread.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 27 2012 05:13 GMT
#5488
the hyperstone eventually goes into the assault cuirass which is core, you shouldnt go for it as your first pickup. Farming up radiance in a timely manner is the optimal way to build him, but if you are very behind and are badly needed in fights finishing your preferred boots of choice and then getting maelstrom on bear is good too.

Cloak on main hero at some point is good because of how tanky your main hero is in bear form

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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
December 27 2012 05:56 GMT
#5489
On December 26 2012 17:54 Cyx. wrote:

EDIT:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 17:19 Nightmarjoo wrote:
For Meepo I get tranquil aghs armlet treads (str mode on) vlads mek heart. Hopefully your team already has a mek by then and you won't need to get it yourself. If your team has a vlads by then too that's great also. The purpose is to give all the Meepos durability. Tranquil makes his laning and jungling go smoother. I think blink is a poor choice on him because it's 2k gold spent on something that makes him more vulnerable, rather than more durable. Yes blink + poofs is a good nuke, but if that's all you can do you're a poor carry. Early on you're too vulnerable to be an effective ganker, and should be using poof to farm the jungle rapidly. Even if you don't like the rest of the build I use, I think getting aghs before anything else is imperative. Even if you're trying to use him as a ganker instead of a full-blown carry aghs gives you another meepo to make your nuke stronger in addition to the increased durability given by 100% stats sharing.


Couple things about this - first off, why armlet? You get a lot of stats from armlet that your Meepos don't use - and most importantly, they can't use the active which is the best part of the item. Also, even Meepo Prime isn't a great armlet hero, at least how I see it.

Armlet's active gives all of your meepo's more hp.
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Bobo_
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States192 Posts
December 27 2012 07:04 GMT
#5490
Is there a channel or area where Dota 2 nubs like me can go to socialize with other nubs like me with the intent of getting pre-made parties going because pubs make me sad with the lack of teamwork and rage.

I'm a SC2 Master player if that helps. Just trying to learn Dota2 .
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28104 Posts
December 27 2012 07:32 GMT
#5491
On December 27 2012 16:04 Bobo_ wrote:
Is there a channel or area where Dota 2 nubs like me can go to socialize with other nubs like me with the intent of getting pre-made parties going because pubs make me sad with the lack of teamwork and rage.

I'm a SC2 Master player if that helps. Just trying to learn Dota2 .

Well, there is a Dota 2 in-game channel called "teamliquid". Most TLers hang out there, and you can constantly see people asking for matchmaking partners, and even some inhouses(not sure if IH's still happen though).
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
December 27 2012 07:49 GMT
#5492
On December 27 2012 16:04 Bobo_ wrote:
Is there a channel or area where Dota 2 nubs like me can go to socialize with other nubs like me with the intent of getting pre-made parties going because pubs make me sad with the lack of teamwork and rage.

I'm a SC2 Master player if that helps. Just trying to learn Dota2 .


You'll still encounter plenty of raging. Male it clear that you're new in the chat so you don't get matched up with very high skill level players
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8940 Posts
December 27 2012 11:08 GMT
#5493
On December 27 2012 13:05 Slardar wrote:
Guys........the question has nothing to do with what's the best 2v1 hero. Stop derailing the thread. Evilfatsh1t that post literally has no place in this thread.

Yes it does. You stated something and i begged to differ. This thread is about giving people correct information. I deemed your information to be incorrect so i corrected it.
SlowBullets
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States839 Posts
December 27 2012 12:13 GMT
#5494
I'm pretty noob but....how the fuck are you supposed to kill Phantom Lancer? I have such a hard time vs him..
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 27 2012 12:17 GMT
#5495
On December 27 2012 20:08 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 13:05 Slardar wrote:
Guys........the question has nothing to do with what's the best 2v1 hero. Stop derailing the thread. Evilfatsh1t that post literally has no place in this thread.

Yes it does. You stated something and i begged to differ. This thread is about giving people correct information. I deemed your information to be incorrect so i corrected it.


well that just proves you have no idea what youre talkin about if you think his answer was wrong
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Airact
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland366 Posts
December 27 2012 12:22 GMT
#5496
On December 27 2012 21:13 SlowBullets wrote:
I'm pretty noob but....how the fuck are you supposed to kill Phantom Lancer? I have such a hard time vs him..

AoE and true sight usually do the job.

A Manta Style Luna vs Phantom Lancer is really amusing to watch lol. Luna is a decent counter to PL as long as there's a team to back her up. Sven just one-shots the illusions and then the PL with the 2nd attack.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-27 12:26:06
December 27 2012 12:23 GMT
#5497
On December 27 2012 11:07 Slardar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 10:52 Whole wrote:
What items should you aim for as a laning (1v2) Lone Druid? I know it's variable, but some options would be nice as I'm completely lost. I see people getting like non-upgraded boots on bear, then some minor item for the hero, then just a plain hyperstone on the bear...is there a method to this madness? I know attack speed is good for the bear, but that's about it, and it seems like not upgrading the hyperstone is a waste...but what do I know.

Also, when (if at all) should you stop putting items on the bear, and focus on items for the hero?


Silly bear has to be the best 1v2 hero in the game, he's so sexy. I would suggest starting with a Stout shield(on bear), few branches and regen on your hero. You eventually want to get Tranquil Boots on sylla, and then orb of venom +boots (regular then phase) on your bear. I'll usually get Orb and continue harassing, then Tranquils.

Hyperstone and pure attack speed stacking on the bear are a thing of the past, really oldschool. Wouldn't recommend in the slightest, just go with the basic I listed above (even OrboV is a luxury to be honest) then standard is Radiance into Assault Cuirass.

When you're behind tho, thunderhammer is really good to play catch up game. Don't transform it into mjollnir, just build the cuirass after. Not recommended against a blink team (tide, sk, lion, rhasta)
On December 27 2012 21:22 Airact wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 21:13 SlowBullets wrote:
I'm pretty noob but....how the fuck are you supposed to kill Phantom Lancer? I have such a hard time vs him..

AoE and true sight usually do the job.

A Manta Style Luna vs Phantom Lancer is really amusing to watch lol. Luna is a decent counter to PL as long as there's a team to back her up. Sven just one-shots the illusions and then the PL with the 2nd attack.

Sven only kills pl before pl gets his third item (diffu/heart/bfly) after that you have to be a lot more farmed or to have a lot of consecutive crits. At equal farm pl kills luna really easily. You really have a timer when playing against pl.
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Rodberd
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany531 Posts
December 27 2012 14:34 GMT
#5498
Im looking to pick up a new hero to learn, like a new year resolution.
since im usually a supporter im not sure if my pick is useful or recommedable.

so im thinking about picking up tinker, try to follow the latest guide here on TL, and get used to him.
so far i basicly play only witch-doc, jakiro, dazzle rubick. more or less.

do you think its a good choice to go more aggressive and pick tinker?
if tinker is not a good pick from my playstyle, what would be another hero who would fit me?
Ooooh, look at it go
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 27 2012 14:37 GMT
#5499
Try tinker, if it doesn't work out try shadow shaman, seems to fit the other heroes you play.
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Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
December 28 2012 01:29 GMT
#5500
On December 27 2012 23:34 Rodberd wrote:
Im looking to pick up a new hero to learn, like a new year resolution.
since im usually a supporter im not sure if my pick is useful or recommedable.

so im thinking about picking up tinker, try to follow the latest guide here on TL, and get used to him.
so far i basicly play only witch-doc, jakiro, dazzle rubick. more or less.

do you think its a good choice to go more aggressive and pick tinker?
if tinker is not a good pick from my playstyle, what would be another hero who would fit me?


Could also try Nyx Assassin as he's just falling into the current meta game as a support. After getting 6 you can just either sit in lane and gank those heroes or just roam around the map and gank relentlessly with his combo.
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