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SpiritoftheTunA
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Verniy
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Dead9
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Fencar
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Also if I don't have a lot of hp or hp regen I'll probably try to kill the camp faster which means not letting it spawn skelebuddies. | ||
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Birdie
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Xxazn4lyfe51xX
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Orome
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On July 26 2015 15:05 Birdie wrote: The skeletons are pretty gold per hp value, it's better to get them if you can depending on the stage of the game. Early game 16 gold is more important than late game where your time is more important. Also depends on what hero you are, if you're SF then you can farm low HP big creep and skeletons in one raze so it doesn't really lose you time or HP to get them. Smoothly killing the trolls with skeletons before you have right-click damage takes triple raze (2 to kill the small ones, the last one to finish off the big troll + skeletons). If you want to do it with 2 you have to auto down a small creep after 1 raze, then auto down the big troll after the second raze. Without skeletons, you can just raze once, auto down the big troll to where he'll die from one raze, then finish the camp all at once with one raze. #junglefarmingscience | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On July 26 2015 15:05 Birdie wrote: The skeletons are pretty gold per hp value, it's better to get them if you can depending on the stage of the game. Early game 16 gold is more important than late game where your time is more important. Also depends on what hero you are, if you're SF then you can farm low HP big creep and skeletons in one raze so it doesn't really lose you time or HP to get them. early game, you're rarely clearing your entire jungle every minute. also, your lanes usually have creeps to farm. if you summon skeletons and miss 1 melee creep, it's already not worth it. overall, i think it's rarely worth the time commitment. | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
On July 26 2015 16:23 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: early game, you're rarely clearing your entire jungle every minute. also, your lanes usually have creeps to farm. if you summon skeletons and miss 1 melee creep, it's already not worth it. overall, i think it's rarely worth the time commitment. Like I said, depends on the hero and the situation. If your lane is not being farmed then you want to take a camp as fast as possible and get back to lane; if you're SF you don't really have any problems with doing this, if you're slark you might. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
I randomed Enigma yesterday and got wrecked by BH, didnt feel there was much I could do. | ||
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ahswtini
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BobMcJohnson
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SpiritoftheTunA
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BobMcJohnson
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Edit: Yeah ok, after looking around a bit, I probably fucked up my early game micro, got killed and then got snowballed on. | ||
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Rocket-Bear
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On July 27 2015 20:23 BobMcJohnson wrote: Even the first few camps when Eidolons are level1? They die so fast early even with aggro switching I was afraid of losing them (unless i'm not supposed to start with the hard camp?) Here's me jungling, not perfectly executed but whatever, don't fall very low on hp. Radiant side: + Show Spoiler + Dire side: + Show Spoiler + Dire goes very fast, can hit lvl 6 at 4.20 pretty consistantly. Obviously going to be slower with a bounty annoying you but your creeps hits really hard so he shouldn't be able to kill you. But he will get xp and some occassional CS. If you buy dusts you can get help from your other support and kill him. Kill him twice with 2 dusts usually make him afraid of going back too. | ||
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IAmJuice
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On July 27 2015 20:23 BobMcJohnson wrote: Even the first few camps when Eidolons are level1? They die so fast early even with aggro switching I was afraid of losing them (unless i'm not supposed to start with the hard camp?) Edit: Yeah ok, after looking around a bit, I probably fucked up my early game micro, got killed and then got snowballed on. u shudnt ever have to tank with enigma. to keep ur eidolons alive, first attack the camp with ur hero and aggro them out. then when the neuts are running back to the camp, cast conversion. that way ur eidolons get free hits in. this is especially useful against centaur/hellbear camps as it gives u time to spread ur eidolons out so they dont get clapped. | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2840 Posts
On July 27 2015 20:49 IAmJuice wrote: what are the best heroes to (learn to) jungle with (~3500 mmr) Chen's obvious and really strong in pubs, and actually quite simple to play. You don't have to do anything fancy to head for his big timings, them being levels 5 6 and 7, and mek/arcanes/greaves. You don't -need- to gank, you just need to push lanes once you hit 5 before heroes with good waveclears get a chance to get levels to stop your push. I find games as Chen are very formulaic, and you can hit timings exactly much moreso than you can with laning heroes. Once you get the basic list of decisions down, it's hard to make outright wrong decisions as Chen. Enchantress is also good, but more reliant on early momentum imo. If you gank with your creeps early and fail, it's far more impactful than if you fail a gank as Chen, as the timers on your creeps put you more at risk of taking exp from your own jungle, and you won't have the mana or cooldowns to sustain enchant spam early. That said, it's very easy to put pressure on early, and your lategame isn't limited to just blowing your cooldowns and having the right creeps as it is with Chen. | ||
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