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Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
June 08 2015 14:03 GMT
#22141
On June 08 2015 21:53 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
Battlefury on bounty is hated online, but my friend does super well with it every game. What does it do that is so bad?


Short version is that it's a item for farming creeps and bounty is a hero that exists to farm hero kills.

For the regen part you can just get something like a Bottle or Urn for a lot less gold and then build into like a Dagon or Desolator for more killing power.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 08 2015 14:04 GMT
#22142
On June 08 2015 21:53 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
Battlefury on bounty is hated online, but my friend does super well with it every game. What does it do that is so bad?

it doesn't do anything, that's why it's bad

it's slow to build, you can't go around annoying the enemy team. you're not supposed to rice with bounty, ur supposed to get track kills for your team. if you want a farming offlaner then play weaver or bristle or something. what rating is your friend?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44284 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 14:20:20
June 08 2015 14:05 GMT
#22143
On June 08 2015 21:53 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
Battlefury on bounty is hated online, but my friend does super well with it every game. What does it do that is so bad?

you are not AM or PA who benefits so much from the effects battlefury .. basically it's a money drain for BH especially when there are other items who are many times better for bounty hunter and that helps the team much much more than a battlefury could

if it works for your friend .. well everybody can buy anything on any hero still win on pubs
this is a quote
Howie_Dewitt
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1416 Posts
June 08 2015 14:11 GMT
#22144
On June 08 2015 23:04 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 21:53 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
Battlefury on bounty is hated online, but my friend does super well with it every game. What does it do that is so bad?

it doesn't do anything, that's why it's bad

it's slow to build, you can't go around annoying the enemy team. you're not supposed to rice with bounty, ur supposed to get track kills for your team. if you want a farming offlaner then play weaver or bristle or something. what rating is your friend?

~3k, he goes phase bf deso mkb bfly and just goes around killing people
Sisyphus had a good gig going, the disappointment was predictable. | Visions of the Country (1978) is for when you're lost.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 08 2015 14:37 GMT
#22145
On June 08 2015 23:11 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 23:04 ahswtini wrote:
On June 08 2015 21:53 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
Battlefury on bounty is hated online, but my friend does super well with it every game. What does it do that is so bad?

it doesn't do anything, that's why it's bad

it's slow to build, you can't go around annoying the enemy team. you're not supposed to rice with bounty, ur supposed to get track kills for your team. if you want a farming offlaner then play weaver or bristle or something. what rating is your friend?

~3k, he goes phase bf deso mkb bfly and just goes around killing people

It's just abusing the lack of detection, many supports can solokill a BH built like this if they see him.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 14:49:17
June 08 2015 14:48 GMT
#22146
On June 08 2015 23:04 ahswtini wrote:
it's slow to build, you can't go around annoying the enemy team. you're not supposed to rice with bounty, ur supposed to get track kills for your team. if you want a farming offlaner then play weaver or bristle or something. what rating is your friend?

BF's actually situationally fine on BH, not as bad as it got made out to be. It's just not suitable for the vast majority of games, and almost never a first item. You usually don't want to be farming, but that doesn't mean that you don't get game states where you can't really use Track well and just have to farm (e.g. enemy team is just defending high ground or 5-man pubtraining and you can't really just yolo into them, but actually need to develop an item advantage with map control before you can fight them).

Of course, this is basically irrelevant in this version--especially since BH is much more effective as a support than an offlaner with the way 6.84 is played.
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unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
June 08 2015 18:31 GMT
#22147
How do i start a game with no bots if i just wanna do some lasthit and lanecontrol practice?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 18:35:57
June 08 2015 18:35 GMT
#22148
under the play tab
create a lobby (local or not doesn't really matter), make sure in the options that there isn't a "fill empty slots with bots" option ticked, sit on a team and start the game
I recommend having cheats on for giving yourself courier gold and starting the game early (-gold xxx and -startgame respectively) but that isn't required.
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Mecha King Ghidorah
Profile Joined April 2014
United States595 Posts
June 08 2015 23:42 GMT
#22149
When should you gank with SF? I normally just farm mid with him all the time and mostly ignore other lanes but a lot of times due to the fact I'm not sure if pubbies will help me with kill meaning that teh enemy heroes could run away which shits on my farm hard but lately lanes just snowball outta control.

Later after laning phase I often find myself farming jungle/empty lane as nothing is happening and then TEAMFIGHT and either Tp is on CD or not close enough and I always arrive late. Any way to avert this as I dont want to derp around with team and get no farm but I dont want to not help.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 08 2015 23:53 GMT
#22150
if u see an opportunity. Like if u get a ganking rune. Will ur gank be successful? do ur teammates have spells that facilitate a gank? Do the enemies have easy escape? Is the lane positioned in a place that makes the enemy vulnerable? Do you know where the other enemy heroes are, and can they respond and countergank in time?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-09 00:31:53
June 09 2015 00:31 GMT
#22151
On June 09 2015 08:42 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote:
Later after laning phase I often find myself farming jungle/empty lane as nothing is happening and then TEAMFIGHT and either Tp is on CD or not close enough and I always arrive late. Any way to avert this as I dont want to derp around with team and get no farm but I dont want to not help.

If your TP is on CD regularly when you need to get to fights, then you should re-evaluate your TP usage. It's very common for players to be over-zealous about TPing to places to farm because either they are being inefficient with their farming routes (and need the TP to make up for wasted time they could have avoided with better planning) or overestimating the amount of extra farm they're getting from using a TP to get there.
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Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
June 09 2015 14:20 GMT
#22152
On June 09 2015 09:31 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 08:42 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote:
Later after laning phase I often find myself farming jungle/empty lane as nothing is happening and then TEAMFIGHT and either Tp is on CD or not close enough and I always arrive late. Any way to avert this as I dont want to derp around with team and get no farm but I dont want to not help.

If your TP is on CD regularly when you need to get to fights, then you should re-evaluate your TP usage. It's very common for players to be over-zealous about TPing to places to farm because either they are being inefficient with their farming routes (and need the TP to make up for wasted time they could have avoided with better planning) or overestimating the amount of extra farm they're getting from using a TP to get there.

to add, usually u dont want to tp to base and walk to lane, rather walk to base and tp to lane (unless u were getting ganked / low hp / under threat / retreating ) because when u walk to base u can still tp from base to lane where u should be. If u tp to base u cant react to current situation in the map (counter gank, defend teammate, split push if enemy team is pushing one lane, defending push) since u have to walk to lane/jungle. Too many times i see ppl teleporting to base, then walk to top lane and when they get to the t2-t1 area, enemy team is 5 manning bottom and u cant help defending because "i have tp cd".

Ofc this isnt perfectly play in every single situation but definitely something u should consider when planning to go base (whether to tp or walk)

PS. must be one of the most awfully explained things ever, i try to clarify if someone misses my point :----D
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
ChaZzza
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom162 Posts
June 09 2015 14:53 GMT
#22153
Farming item on an assassin with track=dumb. Perseverence=ok for the regen.
Bottle=best Gondar.
"We can't whine, we can't do shit, just fucking play," EE-sama
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
June 09 2015 14:53 GMT
#22154
On June 09 2015 23:20 Velzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 09:31 TheYango wrote:
On June 09 2015 08:42 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote:
Later after laning phase I often find myself farming jungle/empty lane as nothing is happening and then TEAMFIGHT and either Tp is on CD or not close enough and I always arrive late. Any way to avert this as I dont want to derp around with team and get no farm but I dont want to not help.

If your TP is on CD regularly when you need to get to fights, then you should re-evaluate your TP usage. It's very common for players to be over-zealous about TPing to places to farm because either they are being inefficient with their farming routes (and need the TP to make up for wasted time they could have avoided with better planning) or overestimating the amount of extra farm they're getting from using a TP to get there.

to add, usually u dont want to tp to base and walk to lane, rather walk to base and tp to lane (unless u were getting ganked / low hp / under threat / retreating ) because when u walk to base u can still tp from base to lane where u should be. If u tp to base u cant react to current situation in the map (counter gank, defend teammate, split push if enemy team is pushing one lane, defending push) since u have to walk to lane/jungle. Too many times i see ppl teleporting to base, then walk to top lane and when they get to the t2-t1 area, enemy team is 5 manning bottom and u cant help defending because "i have tp cd".

Ofc this isnt perfectly play in every single situation but definitely something u should consider when planning to go base (whether to tp or walk)

PS. must be one of the most awfully explained things ever, i try to clarify if someone misses my point :----D

thats just intuition
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 09 2015 15:36 GMT
#22155
On June 09 2015 23:53 ChaZzza wrote:
Farming item on an assassin with track=dumb. Perseverence=ok for the regen.
Bottle=best Gondar.

esp since u can build perse into a lotus orb
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-09 15:51:24
June 09 2015 15:45 GMT
#22156
On June 06 2015 23:44 FFGenerations wrote:
idk how long for
but i just found out i've been playing with my screen render quality set to 60%
i always wondered why effigies looked like shit ingame
its because i've been playing in fucking 360p quality

holy jesus christ
i literally thought i was going blind or dota sucked or IDK what
HD dota boiz


the way that setting works im pretty sure you just said 480p is ur natural resolution.

ewewew how do you even last hit when the creeps are so fuzzy

edit: my undying apologies
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 09 2015 15:47 GMT
#22157
pls fix that quote
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ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
June 09 2015 15:48 GMT
#22158
am i the only one who thinks bh bfury is not bad
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
June 09 2015 15:54 GMT
#22159
well i enjoyed being able to split push during downtime but without the support of your blue background i really didn't wanna argue on the internet about it.

what's ur thoughts on maxing shuriken now? I kinda like just going 0421 if I'm chilling in their jungle since it's so much more sustainable. dunno if new bouncing shurikens are that valuable
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 09 2015 16:07 GMT
#22160
On June 10 2015 00:54 hariooo wrote:
well i enjoyed being able to split push during downtime but without the support of your blue background i really didn't wanna argue on the internet about it.

what's ur thoughts on maxing shuriken now? I kinda like just going 0421 if I'm chilling in their jungle since it's so much more sustainable. dunno if new bouncing shurikens are that valuable

how can you not like new bouncing shurikens? it effectively lengthens the range of your shuriken toss by 1200 range as u can throw it at a creep and it'll still bounce to a tracked hero
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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