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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 06 2015 08:14 GMT
#22121
On June 06 2015 11:24 Fleetfeet wrote:
Now I'm extra confused. Are you talking about literally moving during the backswing, or cancelling the backswing with a move?

think about it, is there really a difference between the two??
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
June 06 2015 11:21 GMT
#22122
?!?!?!
backswing is simply a "cosmetic" animation that is completely unnessecary
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12175 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 13:10:47
June 06 2015 13:09 GMT
#22123
On June 06 2015 13:08 Rodrak wrote:
People keep abandoning my games, and my MMR is dropping significantly due to it. What do?


Play on. If you never abandon then there are 9 other players in the game apart from you. All with equal chance to abandon over time. 4 on your team, 5 on enemy team. Over time you win more than lose by this.

I've seen plenty of games where one player abandons and then 2 players on opposite team leave. Strange stuff happens.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 15:33:13
June 06 2015 14:44 GMT
#22124
idk how long for
but i just found out i've been playing with my screen render quality set to 60%
i always wondered why effigies looked like shit ingame
its because i've been playing in fucking 360p quality
holy jesus christ
i literally thought i was going blind or dota sucked or IDK what
HD dota boiz



On June 06 2015 22:09 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 13:08 Rodrak wrote:
People keep abandoning my games, and my MMR is dropping significantly due to it. What do?


Play on. If you never abandon then there are 9 other players in the game apart from you. All with equal chance to abandon over time. 4 on your team, 5 on enemy team. Over time you win more than lose by this.

I've seen plenty of games where one player abandons and then 2 players on opposite team leave. Strange stuff happens.



ya its like more than half the time , if your player abandons early then your team goes crazy and you end up crushing them and they leave. also you get bonus gold i think
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 15:32:24
June 06 2015 14:47 GMT
#22125
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
common_cider
Profile Joined July 2011
342 Posts
June 06 2015 18:39 GMT
#22126
what is the "green rat looking thing" that follows some heroes around?
Never eat at a chinese restraunt located by the pound
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
June 06 2015 19:26 GMT
#22127
armadillo pet


a cat one is coming out too
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2841 Posts
June 06 2015 19:39 GMT
#22128
On June 06 2015 17:14 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 11:24 Fleetfeet wrote:
Now I'm extra confused. Are you talking about literally moving during the backswing, or cancelling the backswing with a move?

think about it, is there really a difference between the two??


...yes?

If you were moving during the backswing there'd possibly be no delay between attack point and moving, whereas cancelling the backswing with a move command is gonna have some delay between attack point and the cancel.

Plus moving during backswing would look stupid.

Not like there'd be a major difference, but people are talking about UAMs being orbs and orbwalking being backswing cancels and all kinds of shit, it's hard to tell who knows what they're talking about and who's confused.

I'm confused.
GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
June 06 2015 22:34 GMT
#22129
I think some people got taught early on that stutter step micro is called orb walking instead of q-clicking with things like viper and drow orbs, and the misinformation has really spread. Or maybe I've just been misinformed and have no idea what I'm actually talking about.
The Turtle Moves
aboxcar
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States447 Posts
June 06 2015 22:37 GMT
#22130
we've been calling it orb walking since before dota was a thing.. so..
everything that rises must converge
Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
June 06 2015 22:50 GMT
#22131
Maybe this will clear things up for you.
http://dota2strategy.bplaced.net/dota-2-definition-and-term-wiki/orb-walking/
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/8137911
aboxcar
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 23:58:04
June 06 2015 23:56 GMT
#22132
yes, but before the days of dota and orb effects, we called attack, then moving during the backswing, orb walking

the term predates mobas, just like meta-game, aegis, were terms before dota.
everything that rises must converge
hefty
Profile Joined January 2005
Denmark555 Posts
June 07 2015 00:45 GMT
#22133
On June 07 2015 04:39 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 17:14 ahswtini wrote:
On June 06 2015 11:24 Fleetfeet wrote:
Now I'm extra confused. Are you talking about literally moving during the backswing, or cancelling the backswing with a move?

think about it, is there really a difference between the two??


...yes?

If you were moving during the backswing there'd possibly be no delay between attack point and moving, whereas cancelling the backswing with a move command is gonna have some delay between attack point and the cancel.

Plus moving during backswing would look stupid.

Not like there'd be a major difference, but people are talking about UAMs being orbs and orbwalking being backswing cancels and all kinds of shit, it's hard to tell who knows what they're talking about and who's confused.

I'm confused.


To clear things up, you can't move and backswing simultaneously. You cancel backswing - move - attack - cancel backswing and so on.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
June 07 2015 14:01 GMT
#22134
On June 07 2015 08:56 aboxcar wrote:
yes, but before the days of dota and orb effects, we called attack, then moving during the backswing, orb walking

the term predates mobas, just like meta-game, aegis, were terms before dota.


any idea where it came from then? it must have come from somewhere
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
June 07 2015 16:20 GMT
#22135
On June 07 2015 23:01 FFGenerations wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 08:56 aboxcar wrote:
yes, but before the days of dota and orb effects, we called attack, then moving during the backswing, orb walking

the term predates mobas, just like meta-game, aegis, were terms before dota.


any idea where it came from then? it must have come from somewhere

prolly wc3
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Rawr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden624 Posts
June 07 2015 18:00 GMT
#22136
You could buy an item for your hero in wc3 that gave you a ranged attack vs flying units and another effect depending on the orb. Orb of venom was the night elf one I think? Gave you extra damage and applied a dot on enemies.
Joo Se-Hyuk
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2841 Posts
June 07 2015 18:23 GMT
#22137
On June 07 2015 08:56 aboxcar wrote:
yes, but before the days of dota and orb effects, we called attack, then moving during the backswing, orb walking

the term predates mobas, just like meta-game, aegis, were terms before dota.


If it predates orb effects then that term is fucked, and I'm not sure what to call chucking fire spears without getting aggro in dota anymore.

I propose we call it tit juggling. That way, you can orb walk and tit juggle at the same time, and people will know what the hell you're talking about. Maybe.
aboxcar
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-07 18:51:40
June 07 2015 18:46 GMT
#22138
well, we used to call it "manual casting", as opposed to auto cast

auto cast is no less an orb effect, but will draw aggro

___

I'm not 100% sure, but my guess is it's from warcraft 3 because as mentioned above, we had items called orb of venom, orb of corruption, etc. that would give you an orb effect. I can't be certain that it wasn't borrowed from an earlier game though. (before warcraft 3 there weren't heroes.. but still you can't be sure it's not from a different franchise)


everything that rises must converge
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-07 19:50:02
June 07 2015 19:48 GMT
#22139
so if orb walking is stutter stepping using an orb ability in wc3 then i guess its still legit to call it that in dota since in dota you're stutter stepping using an (orb) ability

or maybe nipple flinging
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Howie_Dewitt
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1416 Posts
June 08 2015 12:53 GMT
#22140
Battlefury on bounty is hated online, but my friend does super well with it every game. What does it do that is so bad?
Sisyphus had a good gig going, the disappointment was predictable. | Visions of the Country (1978) is for when you're lost.
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