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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
but if you're going to edit the wiki i would probably be sure to make sure everything looks up to snuff in terms of your syntax and grammar. doesn't doom disable it? on the same thought train...did LC's duel get changed during the patch with the changes to mute and break? | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
lc's stopped breaking in the same patch that aghless doom stopped breaking | ||
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goody153
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BluemoonSC
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 31 2015 19:00 govie wrote: Like, if you could purge the weaver around the time the alchemist was gonna die, that buff becomes alot less important. If this is correct then there exists a straight forward solution against the alchemist+weaver combo, maybe a diffusal blade. You mean like the straightforward solution of silencing Weaver so he can't cast spells when he wants to ult someone? Because, you know, that does exactly what you're trying to do. And, what do you know, there's an item that does that. Really, Alch+Weaver is hardly a "combo" and trying to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of Weaver Agh's with Alchemist is hilarious because that game was disgustingly advantaged long before Alch was even buying Agh's for anyone else. | ||
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govie
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On June 01 2015 01:52 TheYango wrote: You mean like the straightforward solution of silencing Weaver so he can't cast spells when he wants to ult someone? Because, you know, that does exactly what you're trying to do. And, what do you know, there's an item that does that. Really, Alch+Weaver is hardly a "combo" and trying to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of Weaver Agh's with Alchemist is hilarious because that game was disgustingly advantaged long before Alch was even buying Agh's for anyone else. No. | ||
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goody153
44121 Posts
he's not wrong though alch was too much heavily farmed .. i doubt that'd be executed on pubs properly and also they had laning stage advantage cause level 1 rosh not just that if that was against a more competent team i doubt that happen | ||
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Strictly speaking, evasion is going to be worth it relative to armor around when you have 1 armor item (usually AC or Meka) but the consideration of other stats/buildup on respective items will decide whether that's actually what you'll buy. | ||
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aboxcar
United States447 Posts
evasion, raw hp, and armor, when talking about effective hit points, is a basic math problem but mathcraft aside, bristleback is usually more useful if you make some team items like crimson guard or assault cuirass | ||
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
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aboxcar
United States447 Posts
if evasion is X [0,1], your EHP increase is 1/(1-X) -1. (ht hariooo) Y more raw hp divided by current hp gives you the EHP increase as a % the math for armor is more complicated, and I already got into an argument with the entirety of liquiddota in the thread I linked above. but the takeaway, as TheYango said, is that if you already have armor, more armor is not worth as much (and by extension, evasion might be better) | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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Fleetfeet
Canada2552 Posts
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
On June 01 2015 13:20 aboxcar wrote: if by efficiency, you mean math, then X% evasion is equal to X% more EHP Y more raw hp divided by current hp gives you the EHP increase as a % the math for armor is more complicated, and I already got into an argument with the entirety of liquiddota in the thread I linked above. but the takeaway, as TheYango said, is that if you already have armor, more armor is not worth as much (and by extension, evasion might be better) as someone who's berating the other dude about math, your own understanding of this basic math problem is pretty terrible. All else held equal, not considering hp regen, if evasion is X [0,1], your EHP is HP/(1-X). like damn dude you thought 100% evasion only doubles your ehp lol | ||
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aboxcar
United States447 Posts
a point of distinction is evasion is not mathematically worse if you already have evasion (though gameplay wise it obviously is..), the way armor is (a few patches ago evasion didn't stack though so this was never something to think about) so I wrote it out without thinking about it, hehe. glad someone caught it | ||
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GtC
United States546 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
if you have 0 armor 0 evasion then platemail is better than talisman, even for much less gold if you have 30 armor 0 evasion then talisman is much better than platemail point being, armor might not get "worse" but it gets less efficient than say HP or Evasion or other things that it kinda multiplies against. | ||
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