EPTI also think some of the things he's saying are not "optimal" nor "standard", but since we're talking about pub doto and not The International Level of doto i think what he says is "legit".
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DV G
Argentina2339 Posts
I also think some of the things he's saying are not "optimal" nor "standard", but since we're talking about pub doto and not The International Level of doto i think what he says is "legit". | ||
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ChunderBoy
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phase vs treads vs bots is an idiotic arguement, just get whatever u are comfortable with, or think is best for that particular game. i think ive played morph the most in dota1/dota2. my winrate with him got shrekt after ti2 nerfs coz i still picked him. but i think hes my best hero skillwise. aquila+treads+linkens+eblade+bottle timing is 24min get manta+skadi later on bkb/satanic in harder games butterfly against heavy rightclick dmg (ORCHID IS DUMB) i rarely ever get midas on this hero, feels like getting a midas on AM, suffer from no-slots issue. i get treads/bottle mostly in safelane/midlane coz i tell my supports to get off my lane coz i dont want them interfering they just ruin my 1v1 match up if enemy has timing based gankers like bat/centaur. magic wand is good. u can do lots of stuff with 15 charges tread swapping and morphing morph is actually mostly about how u use morph. i calculate all the nuke dmg / cooldowns they do and morph just enough to survive their burst while having optimal dps. as they use nukes repeatedly i morph in short bursts and never leave it on, if i get defocused i go back to agi. every player that hasnt mastered morphling yet ends up having 4k hp by the end of a fight. | ||
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ChunderBoy
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Shikada
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robaq
Poland186 Posts
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Reuental
United States457 Posts
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Shikada
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
On May 24 2014 07:42 EmilA wrote: Anyone know a good top pubber that plays mid regularly? I'd like to expand my mid hero pool a bit, and with the frequent mirana picks I thought Morph would be ideal (if my potm safelanes.) The good morphs I play vs play aggressive af with offensive waveforms -> morph if I stand and fight, and I just can't figure out when to do it. I'm pretty sure Rtz plays Morphling mid quite often. Check him out. | ||
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zelphin
47 Posts
also, stick or wand on this guy? edit: since beesa said wand can be good against timing based heroes, i would assume stick is the normal choice? also what is the typical safe lane build for him? is basilus => wb better or wb => basilus? | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On August 30 2014 03:26 zelphin wrote: after wb bottle boots, do you guys go aquila after or treads? also, stick or wand on this guy? edit: since beesa said wand can be good against timing based heroes, i would assume stick is the normal choice? also what is the typical safe lane build for him? is basilus => wb better or wb => basilus? Depends. If i'm behind, (or died) i'll get the aquila. If i'm csing really well and courier is available I"ll get treads. I would say on average, i usually get aquila first though. Wand vs stick depends on starting build. If you were mid and didn't get 2-3 gg's, get stick. if you did get 2-3 gg's, always get the wand. Wand is really good. Safelane start out with tango salve (or 8 tango if you are that kind of guy), 2/3 ggs (depending on boot timing and if you need an early stick [batrider or bristleback] and a RoP.) Finish basillius, finish treads (unless you died or are behind), and then bring in your wand and aquila via courier. | ||
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Xxazn4lyfe51xX
United States976 Posts
If you find 3 branches in your inventory, might as well go wand. If not, stick is probably just fine unless you're facing a bat or a zeus or a bristle or something similar, in which case you miiight want a wand (still not an absolute necessary upgrade). Safe lane, I'd probably say wb would take priority of basilus. Extra stats are better for the early lane, and the point at which you can complete basilus is early enough that you won't need that much mana regen. | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On August 30 2014 03:56 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote: If you have bottle, I'm not entirely sure you need aquila too. If you find 3 branches in your inventory, might as well go wand. If not, stick is probably just fine unless you're facing a bat or a zeus or a bristle or something similar, in which case you miiight want a wand (still not an absolute necessary upgrade). Safe lane, I'd probably say wb would take priority of basilus. Extra stats are better for the early lane, and the point at which you can complete basilus is early enough that you won't need that much mana regen. Cheap stats are really good on this hero. I would say there isn't a situation where I wouldn't want an aquila on this hero (especially since it gives +7 agi now). 90% of games of morphling, you hit a situation around 10 mins where your team needs you to fight, and having the str treads, aquila, and a wand (or stick if you didn't get gg's) really help you fight a lot more effectively. aquila is really important for mana regen too (which, if you have a bottle is less important) and for split pushing. | ||
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zelphin
47 Posts
question: if i am going the linkens build, and i have treads aquila stick/wand bottle Ulti orb (since according to beesa uo>pers) tp ^ should i replace stick/wand withpers? pers +10dmg and even during combat that lasts 20 seconds i get 100 hp from the regen vs 150/225. you see thats the reason im confused regarding getting wand (i still get a stick dont worry) since it feels like i need to sell it so fast :/ also @comeh, isnt salve morphling sub optimal at best for both mid/safe? i rarely find a situation where i get to use the full 400, or even 300 | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On August 30 2014 04:18 zelphin wrote: also aquila's so good for pressuring t1s which morphling is pretty useful for. question: if i am going the linkens build, and i have treads aquila stick/wand bottle Ulti orb (since according to beesa uo>pers) tp ^ should i replace stick/wand withpers? pers +10dmg and even during combat that lasts 20 seconds i get 100 hp from the regen vs 150/225. you see thats the reason im confused regarding getting wand (i still get a stick dont worry) since it feels like i need to sell it so fast :/ also @comeh, isnt salve morphling sub optimal at best for both mid/safe? i rarely find a situation where i get to use the full 400, or even 300 I typically would get the perseverance over ulti orb (well, it depends on farming and timings and rotations, but on average I get the perseverance) But in your case, I would stash the magic stick and finish the linkens that way. I use the salve a lot. Not to mention it can save you from being first blooded a lot. I'd say about 90% of my games I get full usage of salve. Agreed about mid though, I wouldn't get a salve mid - I go wraithband tangos | ||
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govie
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zelphin
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 30 2014 06:23 govie wrote: Small question i myself dont have the answer too. When i morph during a fight, is there a reset button or how do you determine how much hp is needed in which situation? Entirely game-dependent. You need to have a sense of how much burst damage the enemy can do, and tune your HP such that you don't die in a full round of spells. There's no fixed answer to this, and simply requires that you have an understanding of about how much damage the enemy heroes can collectively do in a round of skills. | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
On August 30 2014 05:10 Comeh wrote: I typically would get the perseverance over ulti orb (well, it depends on farming and timings and rotations, but on average I get the perseverance) But in your case, I would stash the magic stick and finish the linkens that way. I use the salve a lot. Not to mention it can save you from being first blooded a lot. I'd say about 90% of my games I get full usage of salve. Agreed about mid though, I wouldn't get a salve mid - I go wraithband tangos I think Beesa prefers the ulti orb because he constantly bottle crows with morph until he has the finished Linkens, so if bottle crowing is possible I think the ulti orb is the better choice. | ||
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