Wings Gaming Discussion

On July 03 2016 00:54 Porcupinathy wrote:


They just won with a position 4 pudge versus Vici Reborn. But yeah, this team probably deserved a thread months ago.

On July 18 2016 17:11 DucK- wrote:
Congrats.

20/20 unique heroes in a 4 game grand finals.
10/10 unique heroes in a 2 game winner finals.
15/15 unique heroes in a 3 game series against Liquid.

This team is showing how many different heroes they can run. Now it is the job for coaches/captains to analyse patterns to see if certain hero openings indicate a particular strategy.

I really respect teams that don't follow the meta. There's 100+ heroes, surely there are more strategies left to be discovered outside of the meta.

On July 18 2016 21:25 nojok wrote:

They have only one strategy though, they looked really shaky during their AM game despite winning all 3 lanes because they could not go full face, if the draft win was not so big, it could have cost them a lot more. I think teams will want to put them on a defensive position at TI, even at the cost of a lesser draft.

On August 09 2016 17:06 LemOn wrote:
I'm so excited by this team
They are not afraid to have fun on the biggest stage seemingly giving no fucks, and it works! If they were an NA team they'd become a huge sensation already.

They can still demolish or lose to anyone but I sure hope to see them make it to Grand Finals
Them vs MVP BO5 is the dream that has the potential to be the most entertaining grand finals ever
That stuff might surpass NA'Vi vs Alliance by sheer entertainment

On August 14 2016 13:52 TomatoBisque wrote:
From burning (credit to r/dota2 for finding and translating this)



translation is something like "Congratulations wings, a perfect ending to your journey. You made your dreams reality."

On August 14 2016 14:12 DucK- wrote:


Original picture.

https://twitter.com/LootMarket/status/762953785161445376

Lol. I have difficulty recognising the players though. I can only recognise Blink. Which one is Faith? I believe the third is jdh, who used to team with 3 of Wings.

On August 14 2016 14:17 TomatoBisque wrote:

Shadow is the one on the left

On August 14 2016 14:32 DucK- wrote:


100% not shadow. I'm 100% sure Blink is middle. Faith should be right. But sometimes he wears glasses and its throwing me off.

On August 14 2016 15:26 TomatoBisque wrote:

edit: wait I had Shadow and Faith confused, fuck. Okay I think the original has, left to right, Faith, Shadow, and... Innocence? But I don't think Innocence was on the team at that team, was he?

Also Chinese memes have always been of highest quality

On July 03 2016 00:50 evanthebouncy! wrote:
YES!!!!

WINGS FLAIR PLEASE!

Wing game so fun to watch you never know what kind of crazy hero they'll pull. I really hope they win a TI.
BELIEVE!

On August 14 2016 15:07 DucK- wrote:
https://twitter.com/stuchiuWriter/status/764699888391106560

This one is funny. I'm thinking of analysing Wings' drafts to see a pattern. Did one for Alliance and OG before. See how it goes.

On August 14 2016 15:26 TomatoBisque wrote:

edit: wait I had Shadow and Faith confused, fuck. Okay I think the original has, left to right, Faith, Shadow, and... Innocence? But I don't think Innocence was on the team at that team, was he?

Also Chinese memes have always been of highest quality

On August 17 2016 10:20 TanGeng wrote:


That guy on the right is jdh who is not with Wings. Innocence was not with team at the time.

On August 18 2016 08:17 LemOn wrote:
So is there any backstory on the individual players yet/what they did before Wings?

Would love a link to anything like that

On October 05 2016 22:23 LemOn wrote:
I'm getting worries about this team, they don't seem to be playing in the small tourneys much, only a couple are high in solommr?

Don't give us another newbee and codec fiasco guys!

On October 09 2016 01:27 Laertes wrote:
The AM game was particularly impressive. I think it's legitimately the first time anyone has won with an offlane omniknight(I heard about this in the grapevine years ago and theorized it was really legit). Wings truly are harbingers, I really hope other teams take note after they get crushed. You don't have to play by the rules, you can make your own.

On October 09 2016 02:45 Diavlo wrote:

EG picked offlane omni a few times, most notably with a SS at TI4 to knock Alliance out of the tournament.
They picked it again at SL this year with an Ember.
I don't think they ever lost with it.

On November 04 2016 22:44 LemOn wrote:
Innocence wasn't playing last couple series
I'm surprised they can win anything at all without him
He's like the silent giant that drafts and puts their drafts together

On November 11 2016 23:44 evanthebouncy! wrote:
this new EG under crit- is much more volatile and random than the one with ppd
we'd have to see how it goes, but I think EG doesn't have as much of a versatility trouble as before. with crit- and zai they can be quite diverse and still get sufail and babyrage their comfort heros

On November 12 2016 00:35 Pontual wrote:

Winning EG requires so much outplays, simply because you just can't shut down 1 core, you have to win every lane. And still, eg might find space to a comeback out of nowhere, that's the weight of having 5 incredible players. More than versatility, I think that's the strenght of eg.
The only other team I see with that potential is Wings.

On November 15 2016 04:01 B1nary wrote:
Keep in mind they were pretty volatile in the months leading up to TI6 and didn't do so well in the group stages. They just went god-mode in the bracket stage. They obviously have what it takes to be the best team in the world but we don't know yet whether they can keep it up. I'm actually pretty surprised they're still so good, given that many TI winners slack off.

On November 15 2016 08:53 LemOn wrote:

China has really learned their lessons - they let the teams play in loads of small tournaments. There's so many of them don't even get an English cast. Wings will always have a volatile style, but they've been playing the most competitive games of any TI winner in history

On December 03 2016 12:44 LemOn wrote:
I guess this is how Valve nerfs Wings - single elimination to increase luck

On December 07 2016 13:14 haduken wrote:
faith_bian's SK game vs WG was horrid, he either rpg'ed too much or got drunk.

On December 10 2016 11:42 haduken wrote:
i wasn't even surprised they lost, prehaps I was hoping they end up higher.

being the first team is really hard in dota. every tourny have new meta, the top ones always gets studied and exploited.

they still have phenomon team fights so the synergy is still there, they need to stick together and work out their lanes because they almost always lose lanes (prehaps due to the lack of individual ability compare to other top teams), but now they can't rely on team fight and map movements to overcome early game shortcomings they need to work out how they go forward.

On December 10 2016 23:13 nojok wrote:

Lack of individual skill, come on, no other team in the history of dota came close to their level at TI. They setup a new level of play and if I can agree blink and iceice were "just" very good, the other 3 had many matches close to perfection.

Concerning the early game, they often sack it for a strong midgame and if the scoreboard looked grim they were not that far behind in term of farm and XP with a stronger midgame fighting line up.

They're jsut out of shape atm and their movements have been figured out. The question if they're willing to go back to hardcore training now that they're rich enough to not work.

On April 10 2017 12:11 shouldbeworking wrote:
I noticed after watching DPL that it seems Shadow and Blink have switched roles. I wonder if the recent results have been pressuring them to make changes. Not the first time they made a switch though, since FaithBian played mid for bit way before their ESL win.

They are still losing with this new switch though. I really hope they are saving strats because from what I've seen they have been getting really poor results and its kinda sad to TI champions fall off so hard again. I wouldn't even consider them top 5 in China atm. Newbee, IG, IG.v, VG, VG.J, and LGD look stronger. Really hoping they prove me wrong at Kiev.

On April 10 2017 13:30 DucK- wrote:
Of all wings players, I feel shadow is slumping the most. Never a good sign when a team does a role switch.

On April 13 2017 02:56 FuzzyJAM wrote:


I think they need to just play more. If they're already playing lots then I don't understand their dip in quality.