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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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juuto
809 Posts
On February 10 2017 09:03 hunter_x wrote: + Show Spoiler + Do you say the same to matu and miracle when they never go veil on ember? Its just player preference. Thank god dota is not lol, you can build diffrent stuff on your heroes, and still make it work. You can theory craft all you want, as long as he wins with his builds its fine right? And if there is really a better item build on the hero, he will figure it out, he is one of the best on lycan;) Maybe in regular games Necro Lycan might not be all that but he did have Illuminate heal on top of his Howl which made his summons much more durable than usual. His summons did a lot of work that game especially on the raxes because there was a good amount of sustain for them. | ||
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Anamorph
236 Posts
I wont call any of the games a clear one sided match. Liquid closes games much earlier than 40+ minutes regularly. Both teams are top contenders for dac - I m pretty sure even OG would struggle in this matches, but I would give them the fly-drafting advantage. | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
I am very very happy with the way they are playing and i think Liquid are up there with EG and OG. If they qualify for DAC the Major invite is in the bag, and with this variety of the draft and the insane skill every player has it will be pretty hard for opponents to find a way to fight them. Btw Bears played not only flawlessly but out of their minds in game one it was a text book dota in positioning and especially in execution. Nothing flashy just perfect coordination. When you compare that to Miracle Invoker in game 3 its just on another level, and the way they won the last fight man... ~45k MMR doto baby! | ||
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Anamorph
236 Posts
He is legit getting played in that position with any disable.. and gh is unbelievable good with magnus. The way he plays his greedy supports would also reflect into a fast blink magnus 4th. I think this meta still got a lot to improve. I m also not sure about lycan picks, for me the showing of lycan the last game was not the reason they performed well. It was invoker having huge impact in terms of dmg and control each fight. Lycan could be any core with escape and 1v1 safelane potential. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 10 2017 10:15 DucK- wrote: Miracle has been playing a lot of meepo I think. But he doesn't look comfortable on the hero. Probably good enough with the macro farming aspect of the hero, though he struggles with the micro when it comes to skirmishes. Definitely not w33 abed notail level yet yeah agree, I liked him playing meepo but it was spotty | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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CrazyBirdman
Germany3509 Posts
 Sad B)ears can't make it to DAC but I fully expect them to show up in force for the upcoming season. Wouldn't at all be surprised to see them going far the next Major. | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Well played! | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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juuto
809 Posts
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
On February 11 2017 04:31 Saechiis wrote: I think Liquid plays really well off of Miracle's godlike Invoker. I think it's safe to assume it's going to get targeted in the future though so I hope they keep evolving. It might get targeted but currently liquid is at a place where you have to pick your poison. Bears took Rubick away but they had 90% win rate on him. GH KOTL is crazy good, Lycan is back in the pool and liquid were drafting in a way to force ban him, Meepo is a threat now, Miracle invoker, they have been playing well off wisp. They have clear comfort picks and still a level of unpredictability they lacked last year. Should be good to see how it holds up against proven teams. | ||
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vndestiny
Singapore3440 Posts
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Anamorph
236 Posts
On February 11 2017 12:19 vndestiny wrote: Gh alone arguably commands 4 respect bans/block pick in Rubick, Slardar, Kotl & Wisp. Feels good to have a t1 position 4 support again after Jerax, even though their play styles are quite different. Thats what I was mentioning to a friend too... just wondering were those bulba fans are now. No one can tell me, that bulba would achieve the same with liquid. | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On February 11 2017 18:15 Anamorph wrote: Thats what I was mentioning to a friend too... just wondering were those bulba fans are now. No one can tell me, that bulba would achieve the same with liquid. They would obviously not play as good, thats also why people like shaella aka bulba defender no.1 dont say anything in this thread anymore;) For now im super happy with the team. They won 2 qualiefiers in pretty dominant fashion, it was an absolute joy to watch them the last few days. Lets hope they do good at starladder! Liquid fighting! | ||
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On February 11 2017 19:08 hunter_x wrote: They would obviously not play as good, thats also why people like shaella aka bulba defender no.1 dont say anything in this thread anymore;) For now im super happy with the team. They won 2 qualiefiers in pretty dominant fashion, it was an absolute joy to watch them the last few days. Lets hope they do good at starladder! Liquid fighting! I don't like Bulba and think they are better with GH but we should be careful on putting the previous poor performances on him, at least until they actually square off against top teams and put up better results. Because right now they are beating the same kind of teams they were beating in the major qualifier with Bulba. Of course you can argue that they are winning against those teams more convincingly but I always though that that argument had very little weight, Faceless was dominating the SEA scenes before the major and looked like a good contender and they were super disappointing in the end, and on the other end EG (especially early last year) had a lot of shitty series and seemed to struggle against weak teams despite placing very high pretty much always. We'll see, hopefully they will be a top team again, game is more fun when Liquid is good. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19347 Posts
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
TL MMR = 43086. Seems like Matu & GH are out of the official rankings due to inactivity. Still the team's MMR is quite impressive, by far the highest in the world. Add the synergy, the large hero pool, the GH factor and of course the awesome captain we have, and you will get a team everyone should be scared of! Can't wait for Starladder to the see the GH vs Jerax show! | ||
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/WellPlay_Invitational/7 | ||
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juuto
809 Posts
On February 14 2017 19:18 NInoff wrote: Since i couldn't find team rankings by mmr i've just calculated TL's total MMR - according to Liquipedia http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Leaderboards TL MMR = 43086. Seems like Matu & GH are out of the official rankings due to inactivity. Still the team's MMR is quite impressive, by far the highest in the world. Add the synergy, the large hero pool, the GH factor and of course the awesome captain we have, and you will get a team everyone should be scared of! Can't wait for Starladder to the see the GH vs Jerax show! Even Liquidpedia doesn't know that the "Liquid.Kuroky" account that's 7.9k mmr is actually just Matumbaman's smurf. | ||
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