On October 13 2015 22:15 Faruko wrote:
Fata its super good, but he is in a weird situation because his signature heroes (Puck and Troll) are just so out of meta nowadays

i dont think he should be replaced at all

Well but his other signature heroes beastmaster and razor are ok right now. Zeus could come back too, who knows. He also seems to learn quite fast about the meta heroes too. His storm was awful at first, but later he got quite good at it. his qop is also amazing, i think he is in a good place right now.

misirlou

Portugal3238 Posts

October 13 2015 20:17 GMT

#183

this team has some great potential, I don't think there needs to be roster changes. IMO there were some players that didn't perform as well as others but I can attribute that to just having a bad day because I think all of the 5 are very talented and if they have good team atmosphere and coordination that's more important than getting a 1% more skilled player that won't mesh as well with the team. Keep it up guys, and keep practising. Majors are child's play, the crown is at TI

Kraznaya

United States3711 Posts

October 13 2015 22:12 GMT

#184

On October 13 2015 21:17 Manifesto7 wrote:
Lose two series, "disband team!".

I want to punch this site in the face.

no ones outraged when this is said about every other team but liquid fans are special snowflakes

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

October 13 2015 22:23 GMT

#185

On October 14 2015 07:12 Kraznaya wrote:

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no ones outraged when this is said about every other team but liquid fans are special snowflakes

Manifesto has been around forever, he's allowed to be upset at people

MirageTaN

Singapore871 Posts

October 14 2015 05:00 GMT

#186

I have been a loyal Liquid fan since 2013 , I don't wish this team to disband , I think this team has huge potential even with the results they have

kahir00

Iran7 Posts

October 14 2015 06:03 GMT

#187

No one is saying disband, they are saying this team needs to step it up, and everyone has a different opinion on how to step it up. Majority says they should keep working together, some like myself say they should put Kuro to carry, and some call for roster changes.
BUT DISBAND IS NOT AN OPTION!!!!

BobMcJohnson

France2916 Posts

October 14 2015 13:01 GMT

#188

I mean the performance of Liquid was alright, the EU scene is super stacked and even though they probably were the favorites going into the qualifier it was hardly by any significant margin.

Liquid is basically in this group of teams made of tier 1 players but without a tier 1 captain/drafter. So unless you manage to bring in someone like Puppey/fng/ppd/xiao8/s4, which is most likely not going to happen, roster changes will not improve anything.

In the end the performance of Liquid was what you can expect of them, they looked strong overall but they will always have this random chance of sometimes falling flat due to getting outdrafted/outstrategized like what happened vs Alliance. Hell you could probably replace Fata with Sumail it probably wouldn't change shit.

All in all, the best is probably to change nothing and just keep working hard to build team synergy/improve the drafts.

Jaaaaasper

United States10225 Posts

October 14 2015 13:32 GMT

#189

The team looks fairly okay, but I'm not sure they have the talent to break out of the pack of t2/borderline t1 teams in Europe. Ehhh I assume liquid is in it for the longer than this haul, so no need to worry yet.

RolleMcKnolle

Germany1054 Posts

October 14 2015 15:24 GMT

#190

They played well and had 1 bad day. They crushed the group phase. So I really don't understand the critics here.

14CC

93 Posts

October 14 2015 18:30 GMT

#191

Too bad about the botched qualification for the first Major, but to quote the great EE-sama: LMFAO wHo cAREAS HAHA Xd.

All that matters is the International and Liquid obviously wouldn't have picked up these guys if they didn't believe they will be legitimate contenders to win TI. GL

WolfintheSheep

Canada14127 Posts

October 14 2015 18:34 GMT

#192

On October 15 2015 00:24 RolleMcKnolle wrote:
They played well and had 1 bad day. They crushed the group phase. So I really don't understand the critics here.

Crush group stage, botch the bracket. Now that sounds familiar.

5 entirely new players and it still manages to be Liquid

Aurrius

Germany120 Posts

October 14 2015 20:52 GMT

#193

Can we expect some streaming from Kuroky and Fata in the near Future

? I would like it so much!

Pazuzu

United States632 Posts

October 15 2015 01:20 GMT

#194

On October 15 2015 05:52 Aurrius wrote:
Can we expect some streaming from Kuroky and Fata in the near Future

? I would like it so much!

Yeah Liquid streaming would be great i haven't had that in a while :D

icystorage

Jollibee19346 Posts

October 15 2015 01:27 GMT

#195

i hope they participate in the forums too

goody153

44119 Posts

October 15 2015 01:57 GMT

#196

On October 15 2015 03:30 14CC wrote:
Too bad about the botched qualification for the first Major, but to quote the great EE-sama: LMFAO wHo cAREAS HAHA Xd.

All that matters is the International and Liquid obviously wouldn't have picked up these guys if they didn't believe they will be legitimate contenders to win TI. GL

that's rtz

On October 15 2015 10:27 icystorage wrote:
i hope they participate in the forums too

bulba used to this like a year or two ago

the bear jew

United States3674 Posts

October 15 2015 02:36 GMT

#197

The team is fine, EU seems super stacked with a lot of really strong teams, Liquid not qualifying while sad isn't the end of the world. Just have to prepare for Nanyang tournament and they will be fine. Do well there or maybe even win that and a few more tournaments and I'm they can aim for getting invited to next major.