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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
February 20 2015 19:04 GMT
#121
Well this is the SingSing thread so I'm just gonna freely laugh at Envy and posit that Sing's performance at Ti4 was indeed terribly underrated.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
February 20 2015 19:05 GMT
#122
That team is missing the Teabun and Black.
┌⋉⊳∀⊲) ☆ If your soul has not truly given up, then you can hear the sound that races through the end of the world.
Hoenicker
Profile Joined February 2012
243 Posts
February 20 2015 19:28 GMT
#123
On February 21 2015 03:28 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 03:09 Hoenicker wrote:
I in fact couldent care less about why EE kicked sing, but more about his tweeting behaviour today. It seems like EE can't deal with reddit critisizing him. This indicates a very high level of immaturity on his part and a certain level of jadedness, which I generally find a dispiseable characteristic in people. And that is why I think these e-sports team managed by 21 year olds, need adult superivision.
Don't be that guy dude that just post out of his feelings and just formulate conclusion out of what has been seen and not actually trying to dig deeper.

plz take your own advice buddy. It was merely a post about some of singsings statistics (which turned out to be rather impressive) something totally unemotional, simple, clear, facts. I very much doubt you actually read either post lol. People like you make me feel sad about the future of humankind.


So you still think EE is the only guy that decided to kick sing ? where the fuck did you get that info ? So everybody outside envy from the team actually never gave a decision or objected on kicking sing ?

Based on GPM/XPM ? so sing is better than burning now ? Did you forget that sing played meepo ?(or do you not know anything about meepo ?) Did you not realize that sing switched with EE as 1 pos a lot of the games ? Envy has the highest gpm and xpm during the summit does that mean he is better than everybody that time ? The analysis was flawed .

And you take reddit comments seriously ? rofl


Dude you really need take some calming medication. I didn't say anything about somene being better than anyone else, merely commenting on a discussion on reddit, concerning sings performance at TI4. It was EE's response to this thread (which ofc wasnt posted by sing, he doesnt give 2shits about reddit) which really galled me, his behaviour is that of a child.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9490 Posts
February 20 2015 21:49 GMT
#124
On February 21 2015 03:28 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 03:09 Hoenicker wrote:
I in fact couldent care less about why EE kicked sing, but more about his tweeting behaviour today. It seems like EE can't deal with reddit critisizing him. This indicates a very high level of immaturity on his part and a certain level of jadedness, which I generally find a dispiseable characteristic in people. And that is why I think these e-sports team managed by 21 year olds, need adult superivision.
Don't be that guy dude that just post out of his feelings and just formulate conclusion out of what has been seen and not actually trying to dig deeper.

plz take your own advice buddy. It was merely a post about some of singsings statistics (which turned out to be rather impressive) something totally unemotional, simple, clear, facts. I very much doubt you actually read either post lol. People like you make me feel sad about the future of humankind.


So you still think EE is the only guy that decided to kick sing ?

Would you be surprised if EE was the only one that decided to kick aui and pld?
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r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
February 20 2015 22:57 GMT
#125
does anyone know when this new team is suppose to play its first official?
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-21 00:17:08
February 21 2015 00:14 GMT
#126
As far as I could tell EE was upset about people in the comments of that post misquoting whatever he had said about the change from Sing to Fata (or developing their own narrative entirely completely disregarding any interviews), not the thread itself. He specifically mentioned the thread making him "lose hope in interviews", and wasn't talking about the content of the actual post at all.

Then there were some people who also speculate on why the details of whatever lineup change aren't completely public, when the simplest answer is that it isn't nice to talk about it in public. But yet there are people who develop whatever narrative they want around it. This I suppose lead to the comment on why things are not talked about publicly.

Of course EE and other players ideally learn to not care at all about what people write and don't react to it, but it is what it is.

On February 21 2015 06:49 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 03:28 goody153 wrote:
On February 21 2015 03:09 Hoenicker wrote:
I in fact couldent care less about why EE kicked sing, but more about his tweeting behaviour today. It seems like EE can't deal with reddit critisizing him. This indicates a very high level of immaturity on his part and a certain level of jadedness, which I generally find a dispiseable characteristic in people. And that is why I think these e-sports team managed by 21 year olds, need adult superivision.
Don't be that guy dude that just post out of his feelings and just formulate conclusion out of what has been seen and not actually trying to dig deeper.

plz take your own advice buddy. It was merely a post about some of singsings statistics (which turned out to be rather impressive) something totally unemotional, simple, clear, facts. I very much doubt you actually read either post lol. People like you make me feel sad about the future of humankind.


So you still think EE is the only guy that decided to kick sing ?

Would you be surprised if EE was the only one that decided to kick aui and pld?


Well it is public knowledge that n0tail approached EE about making this new team, so EE had a big part in it, but obviously bone7 and Fata agreed with it or else they wouldn't have made changes.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-21 00:36:47
February 21 2015 00:36 GMT
#127
EE says dumb shit in an interview open to all kinds of interpretations: "EE is just too real. He doesn't give a fuck. He'll tell it like it is."

EE gets mad people "misinterpret" his terrible interviews: "EE is losing faith in interviews. He should learn not to care what people think."

Laughter about EE the person and his weird fans continues.

PS: when the entire existence of your job requires fans, you don't get to not care.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
February 21 2015 00:50 GMT
#128
On February 21 2015 09:36 FHDH wrote:
EE says dumb shit in an interview open to all kinds of interpretations: "EE is just too real. He doesn't give a fuck. He'll tell it like it is."

EE gets mad people "misinterpret" his terrible interviews: "EE is losing faith in interviews. He should learn not to care what people think."

Laughter about EE the person and his weird fans continues.

PS: when the entire existence of your job requires fans, you don't get to not care.


Not sure why I'm even replying to this, but I'm not following your point. Firstly not sure who you are quoting, I for sure didn't say any of those things. I was answering to the guy who said that he was upset about people posting Sing's stats, when as far as I could tell that wasn't the case. Whatever EE said about the Sing->Fata situation is out there for everyone to check, and the few things he said were pretty clear. If people then either don't check what he actually said after forgetting it or ignore it completely when they speculate on things, he really shouldn't care because it's a worthless battle. What is he going to care about and what can he do about it? Correct every person who is spreading misinformation? Just try to learn what you did wrong in the past and move on, if people want to speculate on whatever community forum, let them.

This also has very little to do with caring about fans, but instead about whether players should care about what people on different community sites write about them and their teams. You can interact with the fans you have just fine and still ignore whatever "drama" is fueling reddit on some particular day.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
February 21 2015 00:53 GMT
#129
That post was only in part directed at you, so I understand your confusion.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-21 01:31:30
February 21 2015 01:30 GMT
#130
Since it's the Sing thread, might as well talk about the new team he supposedly is on instead of this "drama". Someone asked when they might play their first official. I think it could be quite a while still unless they participate in some sort of smaller cups like those Gigabyte Challenges or whatever they are called. Signups for several tournaments like Dotapit, MLG, WePlay seem closed, and SL, ESL, Summit have not yet started. Not sure when they each might be starting.

No matter if the team is completely serious or not, if Valve runs TI qualifiers anything like last year, getting into TI qualifiers shouldn't be that hard. Last year at least they invited pretty much every team that had played in pretty high tier competition, no matter how little success they had. Winning the qualifier is probably rather difficult, there probably are a few decent teams in the EU region who don't get a direct invite to the event.
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
February 21 2015 16:08 GMT
#131
I think, unless he forms a new team with big players available (Black, Bulldog, MyNuts and pieliedie, this is the dream tho), I don't think he'll make to TI5.

But I doubt he would make to TI5 with TT aswell, so whatever.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8908 Posts
February 21 2015 18:49 GMT
#132
the way i see it, when he streams less he's practicing with a team.

so hopefully this is good news that his sleep schedule is fixed and he's only streaming a couple hours a day instead of all day lol
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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
February 21 2015 20:03 GMT
#133
Didn't EE get mad about a reddit post that trascribed what he said on a stream word for word?

I don't see black joining up with sing again, black can go on a team with a sponsor already, provided that team kicks 1. Since everyone's in the mood for kick recently, I think that's pretty likely.
Murkinlol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States366 Posts
February 22 2015 05:20 GMT
#134
The thing is there are really only 3 good european teams and they all have good 1's already. I can't see Secret or EG making any roster changes, let alone their core players. Cloud 9 might be active but changing roles is just as risky as changing players, especially if that player hasn't played that role in long time. Asking Envy to support or Fata to offlane just to make room for Black is just ridiculous.

That said, the problem with any new euro team isn't their collective skill, it's the lack of a strong captain. There are a lot of good players out there that are teamless or on weak teams but what separates them the most from the top 3 teams is that there are no equivalents to PPD, Puppey, or Envy when it comes to drafting and captaining. So when people say things like black/sing/bulldog/pieliedie +1 or whatever it's not the skill that I question it's who would be that teams PPD, Puppey or Envy?
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eekmice
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States373 Posts
February 22 2015 05:58 GMT
#135
On February 22 2015 14:20 Murkinlol wrote:
The thing is there are really only 3 good european teams and they all have good 1's already. I can't see Secret or EG making any roster changes, let alone their core players. Cloud 9 might be active but changing roles is just as risky as changing players, especially if that player hasn't played that role in long time. Asking Envy to support or Fata to offlane just to make room for Black is just ridiculous.

That said, the problem with any new euro team isn't their collective skill, it's the lack of a strong captain. There are a lot of good players out there that are teamless or on weak teams but what separates them the most from the top 3 teams is that there are no equivalents to PPD, Puppey, or Envy when it comes to drafting and captaining. So when people say things like black/sing/bulldog/pieliedie +1 or whatever it's not the skill that I question it's who would be that teams PPD, Puppey or Envy?


This is absolutely correct. I would go as far to say that if EG replaced all 3 cores with supposedly "weaker" players like sing, h4nni or fly, that they would still be a top 5 team in the world. The only captain on the open market who I think can make a dent at TI5 is pld. That's it. So I hope sing does team up with him again.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8908 Posts
February 22 2015 14:26 GMT
#136
http://www.joindota.com/en/cups/1983-esl-one-frankfurt-2015-eu-qualifier/teams/53249-burden-united

new team, boys
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Sa6peto
Profile Joined December 2012
Bulgaria162 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 14:28:57
February 22 2015 14:27 GMT
#137
Ho.ly.sh1t.
Tho i wish they had Ratdog aswell ...
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
February 22 2015 14:34 GMT
#138
Feels like a narvi thing last year, put the team together and see how far it goes. They don't get to play NA qualis though so I'm guessing not far, but they probably know that as well.
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 22 2015 16:15 GMT
#139
CWM Sing and Bamboe? Man if only they would have picked up Black and 1437 instead. Would have been the old preTI2 Mousesports squad who all loved for doing stupid shit.

Remember this? (7.29 if it doesn't work)
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cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
February 23 2015 15:44 GMT
#140
i think today's gonna be the team first game, but i doubt there will be a stream
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