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On January 29 2015 06:10 hewley wrote:
I really hate Qojqva as a player. Imo TT will always be so predictable when he is on the team. They get the super fast radiance bear and should group as 5, but he always abandons the team and farms on his own.
it used to be worse when pajkatt did the same. then the team played 3v5 all the time and people flamed sing 'cause he was the only core on tfs
TT is outdrafted every game against VP. is kinda amazing, really
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On January 29 2015 06:19 cuckoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 06:10 hewley wrote:
I really hate Qojqva as a player. Imo TT will always be so predictable when he is on the team. They get the super fast radiance bear and should group as 5, but he always abandons the team and farms on his own. it used to be worse when pajkatt did the same. then the team played 3v5 all the time and people flamed sing 'cause he was the only core on tfs TT is outdrafted every game against VP. is kinda amazing, really
I dunno, I would just draft Clinkz everygame for him if I was Jerax. Let him have a mid which has only impact if the hero farms enemy heroes instead of creeps.
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How do you guys get the stream to show? :o I tried so far with 3 browsers but it only shows up for like 5 seconds and goes completely black :< I want to see that Bulldog Bear!
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On January 29 2015 06:22 Oukka wrote:
How do you guys get the stream to show? :o I tried so far with 3 browsers but it only shows up for like 5 seconds and goes completely black :< I want to see that Bulldog Bear!
no dont bother.
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well
i guess they have to decide:
either kick bulba, and go 1. qojqva 2. sing 3. bulldog
or kick sing and find a new support
seriously, they improved a lot (which shows how shitty they were). but still really shitty and sing cant play sup
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On January 29 2015 06:25 cuckoo wrote:
well
i guess they have to decide:
either kick bulba, and go 1. qojqva 2. sing 3. bulldog
or kick sing and find a new support
seriously, they improved a lot. but still really shitty and sing cant play sup
I don't know for me, Qojqva is still highly questionable. Basically you give all your farm priority no.1 to a guy who is definitely not a team player and likes to hit creeps more than join team fights. If you look at G this game. He owned mid, forced SF to go to jungle, made space and still managed to get highest lvl and farm on his team. If you see Qojqva, he has like highest level in his team, since he farms all game while the rest has to fight 4v5 and stay underleveled all the time.
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No one can position 5 an undying without snowballing because the enemy throws from the start. Its like letting tidehunter play position 5, undoable and we should not be critizing a player that eventhough its retarded, accepts the hero and role and simply does his best anyway. I think sing has alot of potential as a support and bulda as an offlaner. Give your new ti champions some time to adjust to the new roles.
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I feel like Tinker is approaching the point that Na'Vi seems to be at: the three cores all certainly have (or can have) futures, even great ones, but not together. Each of them can be very useful pieces in the right situation but they seem incapable of creating that situation for themselves.
It's hard to root for Q right now in the same way it's been hard to root for XBOCT (though he has been far better lately). At the same time I want to see both teams win, it just seems the ceiling for their accomplishments without breaking it all apart to start over again is quite low, even if it is significantly higher than the team's current level of play.
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Honestly at this point you have to take the players' mental state into account. They made a team expecting to be a tier 1 western team (or 1.5 or whatever), got a good sponsor and contracts, and then proceeded to just straight up lose for 6 months.
I'd be surprised if anyone except JerAx has any drive left in them. The others just seem to be going through the motions. You can't win like that, or play well.
Ar1se's recent interview hinted at this too when he talked about the atmosphere in TT.
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The thing is they all have the skill (perhaps not bulba), but should be achieving much more with it. I dont understand some of the drafts they played against vp, sing can play mirana really well, why not use this, he can have a much larger impact as a support on a hero he is at least comfortable on. Some kind of roaming play making support, like silencer even wth. Shake it up.
They may benefit from a bit of mental coaching too, it seems they really let a lost game get to them. Its really important in any kind of top level sports to be able to quickly get over misstakes, because if you keep churning it over in your mind your just going to play worse.
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SingSing can play Mirana/Venomancer pretty well, right? Giving him mid-styled supports (not Skywrath) would be a good mixup.
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I would say his veno is mediocre. Actually I think he did quite fine on skywrath/venge. That undying pick didnt make sense to me, and his dazzle was pretty crap (the last game anyway didnt see the first one where he played it aswel).
I generally like the way Jerax drafts, but they need to tame him a bit, sometimes he just goes too far out of the box (for the sake of going out of the box). I think sing would do much better on aggresive supports like Lion.
also: bulba offlane isnt as great as many hoped it would be I think. imo the game 3 loss against vp was on him, he got caught out on his brood twice, when they were ahead and the rubberband gave gyro a huge boost. He seemes sluggish somehow in his reaction speed :<
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On January 29 2015 19:44 Hoenicker wrote:
I would say his veno is mediocre. Actually I think he did quite fine on skywrath/venge. That undying pick didnt make sense to me, and his dazzle was pretty crap (the last game anyway didnt see the first one where he played it aswel).
I generally like the way Jerax drafts, but they need to tame him a bit, sometimes he just goes too far out of the box (for the sake of going out of the box). I think sing would do much better on aggresive supports like Lion.
The draft was fine imo, its a risk you take when you put undying as a support (and we see alot of greedy risks in many drafts). If he doesnt get kills he will fall off, but atleast you still have the amplify damage and the tombstone if you can keep him alive.
Thats why sing2x's itembuild was a bit wierd imo, he went for manaboots on a support undying that wasnt snowballing. Like, for that low goldincome i think getting TQ+urn+wand itembuild grants alot more survivability if you are not getting the kills you need for a mek+manaboots or whatever higher tier items you want. Atleast you are tanky enough with 4 armour & 114 hp more during the early/midgame to contribute longer in teamfights.
On January 29 2015 19:44 Hoenicker wrote:
also: bulba offlane isnt as great as many hoped it would be I think. imo the game 3 loss against vp was on him, he got caught out on his brood twice, when they were ahead and the rubberband gave gyro a huge boost. He seemes sluggish somehow in his reaction speed :<
He is rusty but he was a good offlaner back in the day. I think he isnt much worse then funnik atm and can only grow from here. Lets wait and see what happens!
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Well boys its been a good run but now that Tinker has lost I see no need to continue to support them, so I am moving on to team that well not hurt my every fragile fan-heart..... GO MVP.P!!!!
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On January 29 2015 22:42 YourGoodFriend wrote:
Well boys its been a good run but now that Tinker has lost I see no need to continue to support them, so I am moving on to team that well not hurt my every fragile fan-heart..... GO MVP.P!!!!
Warlock or bust!
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Qojqva is the problem I think.
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Game tempo decision is the problem more than any individual player in my opinion.
Picks include that perhaps.
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Jerax making dem plays here against alliance. And Sing is having a great game on skywrath, that Bulba jugger just is so underwhelming.
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that swap by sing, holy shittttttttt
sing won game 2 with that swap
i could see TT chocking so hard, but god damn. what a play.
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