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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-03 23:12:53
August 03 2016 23:09 GMT
#3681
On August 04 2016 08:02 Zea! wrote:
Tbh, this was Alliance game all the way if they played more patiently and just kept farming. Hell, they could even win without 2 sets of raxes but must be said that Loda is playing really BAD today...


the PL and timber just stood in their base for like 20 minutes and they couldn't kill them and they didn't take out any backliners for like 20 minutes until finally they got the kunka (not before loda diebacked)

the linkens wasn't too bad but it meant the Heart pl and timber were pretty uncontested, there wasn't enough control to focus either of them and no one ever went for the backliners

i mean its not like the ember was dying , you should usually get your damage item in that case instead of a linkens. the casters kept saying "alience has the late game!!" but actually they didn't coz the PL and timber tanked up before alience got their dmg. bulldog seemed to be out of position a lot but its only coz they had no lockdown/focus/dmg .

their best engagement late was when the kotl mana drained the timber and they could focus him
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Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 03 2016 23:11 GMT
#3682
On August 04 2016 08:09 FFGenerations wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2016 08:02 Zea! wrote:
Tbh, this was Alliance game all the way if they played more patiently and just kept farming. Hell, they could even win without 2 sets of raxes but must be said that Loda is playing really BAD today...


the PL and timber just stood in their base for like 20 minutes and they couldn't kill them and they didn't take out any backliners for like 20 minutes until finally they got the kunka (not before loda diebacked)

the linkens wasn't too bad but it meant the Heart pl and timber were pretty uncontested, there wasn't enough control to focus either of them and no one ever went for the backliners


Exactly, he never went for the supports and he always tried to focus PL and Timber, wasting bkbs+ult and achieving nothing, then he proceeded to change target and pouncing (missing it) 1v3 and dieing alone, just to buyback... look at the last fight, he just pounced to kill Kunkka, switched target into PL, died, bought back, rejoined the fight going 1v3, died again... wtf
The Real Power~
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
August 03 2016 23:44 GMT
#3683
wow that ravage by lgd cost them the game
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ironcell
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1127 Posts
August 03 2016 23:47 GMT
#3684
Alliance punished LGD super hard
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
August 03 2016 23:49 GMT
#3685
LOL loda waiting to last hit that illusion
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Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 03 2016 23:54 GMT
#3686
GG, good day 1 after all, still a bit salty for that game 1 vs LGD, we could easily be 4-2 . Hope the best for tomorrow!
The Real Power~
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 03 2016 23:55 GMT
#3687
A win a draw and a loss. And that loss is to OG. I can live with that.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-03 23:59:11
August 03 2016 23:58 GMT
#3688
vs low tier team , we won
vs champion , we lost
vs high tier team , we draw

its an okay result , hope tomorow we see much more S4 axe or mirana.
6nnn
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12088 Posts
August 03 2016 23:59 GMT
#3689
I was so sure Alliance had lost the second LGD game after the 4:th picks. Then LGD picked up the tide and ruined their lanes, allowing Alliance a chance.
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
August 04 2016 00:15 GMT
#3690
On August 04 2016 08:59 Yurie wrote:
I was so sure Alliance had lost the second LGD game after the 4:th picks. Then LGD picked up the tide and ruined their lanes, allowing Alliance a chance.

if mirana was LGD mid would not change the result also. imho
6nnn
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
August 04 2016 07:35 GMT
#3691
An ok day 1. This day will be a hard decider. They need wins...
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
August 04 2016 07:53 GMT
#3692
Good day 1 by Alliance imo. No shame losing to OG. Drawing with LGD is also commendable. Loda's Slark against LGD was funny though.
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
August 04 2016 11:45 GMT
#3693
Can someone explain what happened in the games vs OG? I only had time to look at the games every now and then, and had no sound The first game was so short and the second game they went last pick pugna on loda? What was the point of that?
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
August 04 2016 12:33 GMT
#3694
On August 04 2016 20:45 -y0shi- wrote:
Can someone explain what happened in the games vs OG? I only had time to look at the games every now and then, and had no sound The first game was so short and the second game they went last pick pugna on loda? What was the point of that?

they picked pugna for all in push, everything looked alright till they failed first high ground push. that draft was creative but zero mistake allowed. they shouldn't give them riki, this hero just makes pugna useless in later game.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12088 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-04 12:35:06
August 04 2016 12:34 GMT
#3695
On August 04 2016 20:45 -y0shi- wrote:
Can someone explain what happened in the games vs OG? I only had time to look at the games every now and then, and had no sound The first game was so short and the second game they went last pick pugna on loda? What was the point of that?


Pugna was an all in push strat. Pugna ulti with aghs has 0 cd and instakills naga illusions as well. They held for 30 min after feeding in their first serious base push, which is commendable. They had Enchantress as only physical damage dealer. Which is next to nothing late game. Thus they lost all fights late game.
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-04 12:35:16
August 04 2016 12:34 GMT
#3696
In the last game they wanted to push towers quickly which they did. But they didn't have what it took to break high ground vs the KOTL so their lineup kind of ran out of steam and they found themselves under siege
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
sang
Profile Joined February 2011
United States251 Posts
August 04 2016 14:00 GMT
#3697
Mix of games yesterday. There were a few poor drafts (game 1 vs OG) and plays (game 1 vs LGD), but overall not horrible. Today will be much more important though. Will need to at least split both matches, preferably 2-0 one or both of them to be in a good spot heading into day 3.
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
August 04 2016 14:38 GMT
#3698
I like watching alliance but man they draft questionably. Pugna all in vs kotl? The margin for error is so small, and they aren't exactly known for execution.

The team comp in general didn't make much sense. If you want to break base, and you do with pugna, why do a core Mirana mid?

I'd rather watch them lose straight-up games than stuff like this.
MonkeyLarry
Profile Joined June 2011
United States60 Posts
August 04 2016 15:11 GMT
#3699
They did how I expected they would on Day 1. I don't know how Wings did yesterday, but. Heart says 4-0 Day 2. Head says 2-2 or 3-1.
Grubby TLO WhiteRa Snute Bunny | Liquid, Alliance, Na'Vi, EG, OG
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12088 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-04 16:19:46
August 04 2016 16:19 GMT
#3700
On August 04 2016 23:38 ahw wrote:
I like watching alliance but man they draft questionably. Pugna all in vs kotl? The margin for error is so small, and they aren't exactly known for execution.

The team comp in general didn't make much sense. If you want to break base, and you do with pugna, why do a core Mirana mid?

I'd rather watch them lose straight-up games than stuff like this.


Mirana 1k magic dmg on like 10s cd. Pugna magic damage amplification. Mirana decent right clicker for push, hard to gank mid.
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