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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-16 04:18:03
October 14 2022 02:10 GMT
#1

The International 11


Saturday, Oct 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)The International 2022 Group Stage

Streams


Main Stream | Stream 2 | Stream 3 | Stream 4 | Stream 5

Youtube streams: here

Format

  • Twenty teams divided in two groups of ten teams each where they play in a round-robin format.
  • All matches are played in a Bo2.
  • Top four teams in each group advance to the Upper Bracket of the Main Event.
  • Bottom two teams in each group are eliminated.
  • Remaining teams advance to the Lower Bracket of the Main Event.

Teams!


Fixtures & Results



+ Show Spoiler [Group A] +



+ Show Spoiler [Group B] +





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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4559 Posts
October 14 2022 02:19 GMT
#2
We have an official thread!

Game aint dead yet
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 14 2022 05:50 GMT
#3
Why should the game be dead?

I'm hyped!
There will be a LOT of games coming up! So if you see matches that are exciting or worth checking out overall: write it here! We can't watch everything

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Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
October 14 2022 07:54 GMT
#4
Hyped as well, guess most interesting matchups(from standing/reputation) will be the following:

Liquid vs RNG
LGD vs EG
Team Spirit vs Entity
EG vs OG

Go Matu! Show them who is the difference maker between a good team and a championship contender.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 14 2022 12:16 GMT
#5
Hm, on the first day I will probably watch:
EG-Soniqs (NA-Drama!!!)
Secret-TA (because Puppey)
LGD-EG (EG again? But both are high-contenders; have to)
TSM-Tundra (the IMHO potential "upset teams")
Liquid-BB (have to finally watch Matu )
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 14 2022 16:30 GMT
#6
Thanks for making the thread


So many games to keep track of now, 5 streams lol
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 15 2022 02:04 GMT
#7
here we goooooo ?!
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4559 Posts
October 15 2022 02:10 GMT
#8
On October 15 2022 11:04 emperorchampion wrote:
here we goooooo ?!


They actually started on time. Im shocked!
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 15 2022 03:08 GMT
#9
On October 15 2022 11:10 LennX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2022 11:04 emperorchampion wrote:
here we goooooo ?!


They actually started on time. Im shocked!

sike!
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 15 2022 03:09 GMT
#10
ooof lelis, but good for eg
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4559 Posts
October 15 2022 03:29 GMT
#11
Is it LGDs year?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 15 2022 03:57 GMT
#12
On October 15 2022 12:29 LennX wrote:
Is it LGDs year?

mmm I don't think so

crazy close game 1 between liquid and rng
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 15 2022 03:59 GMT
#13
just got up and could see micke getting a rampage! worth!
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 15 2022 03:59 GMT
#14
Liquid managed to stretch the game long enough with Magnus + Enigma. As long as they control the Rubick fights are pretty straight forward at that point.

Interesting they choose to pick Magnus into Rubick since LGD wanted the Rubick side in last TI.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 15 2022 04:20 GMT
#15
ez4rtz (but against soniqs)
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 15 2022 04:34 GMT
#16
PSG.LGD loosing against Hokori! Didn't expect that!
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
October 15 2022 04:35 GMT
#17
Hokori trading blows against LGD. Good upset.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 15 2022 04:35 GMT
#18
Wow, Liquid having an even worse lane stage in this game against RNG.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 15 2022 04:40 GMT
#19
How do you get rid of this addon notification? Do I have to switch to streamlink?
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 15 2022 04:47 GMT
#20
I think to the right is a button to deactivate this overlay!
I'm using fullscreen player, so I don't see those tough
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-15 04:52:40
October 15 2022 04:49 GMT
#21
I figured it out, go out of full screen. Enable chat, hover on video and the putple dots to the right become clickable so it can be turned off. In full screen they are not clickable.

edit, might be that there is a 3x3 pixel area on it clickable while the button looks larger.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44222 Posts
October 15 2022 05:36 GMT
#22
TI Time ! looks like every matchup is going as expected by results

except Hokori going 1-1 with LGD
this is a quote
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 15 2022 05:37 GMT
#23
Map 2 of OG-Boom was Booms game to loose!
... and they did ...

And in non-comeback news: Secret just walked over Thunder!
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-15 06:03:11
October 15 2022 06:03 GMT
#24
On October 15 2022 14:37 Geisterkarle wrote:
Map 2 of OG-Boom was Booms game to loose!
... and they did ...

And in non-comeback news: Secret just walked over Thunder!


They are down quite a lot in the second game. Though the lead isn't growing any longer.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 15 2022 06:18 GMT
#25
Entity vs BC slide show seems the most close of the ongoing games.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44222 Posts
October 15 2022 06:49 GMT
#26
SA actually showing up somehow. Looks like SA as a region coming in to actually fight and not get almost zeroed again
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44222 Posts
October 15 2022 06:51 GMT
#27
Arteezy SF brings me back to 2012-2015 RTZ. Not as exciting and as good tho
this is a quote
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4559 Posts
October 15 2022 07:19 GMT
#28
LGD rekted....
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
October 15 2022 07:31 GMT
#29
loved to see that support sven pick from eg
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4559 Posts
October 15 2022 07:57 GMT
#30
How the heck can a game observer time out....
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 15 2022 08:04 GMT
#31
EG looking reeeeeeaally good! After two "easy" games against Soniqs, they just slap LGD in the face! 18:0 after 15min on map 2!
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 15 2022 08:10 GMT
#32
How did they go from that into losing a team fight?
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 15 2022 08:21 GMT
#33
Such a great LGD smoke into killing the bubble heroes.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 15 2022 08:22 GMT
#34
I spoke to soon... both teams can go late! Getting exciting!
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 15 2022 08:33 GMT
#35
LGD dares to go 4vs5. Reminds me of how OG came back in their winning runs.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 15 2022 08:36 GMT
#36
Quinn really wanted a suicide button on his hero there. 7s remaining on Aegis with 300hp and no mana. still got out.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-15 08:38:54
October 15 2022 08:38 GMT
#37
Choice of Aegis on Puck might have lost LGD the game. Though since he had BB CD I would have made the same choice.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 15 2022 08:40 GMT
#38
That was quite a back and forth game! Best game I saw today!
GG EG! Looking good!
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-15 09:28:37
October 15 2022 09:28 GMT
#39
Micke is not doing an inspiring Puck this game. He uses ulti to run and then still dies over and over.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44222 Posts
October 15 2022 09:34 GMT
#40
Doesn't Morphling beat Razor/Naga ? Didn't see the draft but i assume that's a last pick morph

also gaimin glad has disruptor enigma lategame so OG is on a timer
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44222 Posts
October 15 2022 09:36 GMT
#41
Yuragi Naga is like 2014 naga. It's so disgusting
this is a quote
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
October 15 2022 10:12 GMT
#42
Likkid are doing it
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44222 Posts
October 15 2022 12:08 GMT
#43
EG-OG match is actually the most competitive

kinda like it given they are 4-0 and 4-0 before their match
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
October 15 2022 12:29 GMT
#44
what a game, EG looking strong
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44222 Posts
October 15 2022 12:31 GMT
#45
artour actually playing well this TI damn
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
October 15 2022 13:15 GMT
#46
EG looking strong today. Everyone's firing on all cylinders.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 15 2022 13:19 GMT
#47
EG look like a BIG contender this year!
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44222 Posts
October 15 2022 13:20 GMT
#48
EG actually fucking clapping hard. They just clapped possibly one of the contenders in the group given what OG has shown so far
this is a quote
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
October 15 2022 13:21 GMT
#49
EG 6-0 holy shit
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44222 Posts
October 15 2022 13:44 GMT
#50
On October 15 2022 22:21 PoulsenB wrote:
EG 6-0 holy shit

The best part is that they are all actually playing super well.

I haven't seen artour play this well since like idk 5 years ago or something lol
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 15 2022 14:42 GMT
#51
My boys EG!!!! Wow, no EG expected what we saw after day 1! 6-0 after OG and LGD! Look so good in team fights again and Rtc playing great!

We are dreaming now!
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 15 2022 14:47 GMT
#52
LGD is doing a surprisingly bad first day here. It isn't just the score, it is that they aren't looking good as a team.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
October 15 2022 14:56 GMT
#53
NA dota too stronk for LGD
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
October 15 2022 15:02 GMT
#54
Boom is losing in a silliest way possible lmao
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 15 2022 15:27 GMT
#55
Ok, first day done!
What did we learn?
- EG are the team to beat
- LGD are not performing as expected
- BetBoom are probably the first team to drop
- Group B looks quite close for now ... the 3 games tomorrow should tell us more
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 15 2022 16:23 GMT
#56
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 15 2022 16:31 GMT
#57
I think I'll skip dota2 Reddit for the rest of TI. The top 8 threads are complaints about production. I can't be that negative about something I enjoy watching.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 15 2022 16:42 GMT
#58
Yeah there was so much dota 2 games today, and for me as an EG fan all 3 series were awesome, i care little for complaining about production when such good dota happened lol.
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 15 2022 16:45 GMT
#59
Did I miss the production problems?
I think the only one I witnessed was one game where the observer dropped. But after a quick reconnect everything was fine. Took <1min. Why would I complain about that?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 15 2022 17:55 GMT
#60
On October 16 2022 01:31 Yurie wrote:
I think I'll skip dota2 Reddit for the rest of TI. The top 8 threads are complaints about production. I can't be that negative about something I enjoy watching.

Yep I feel the same after the last week or so, nothing interesting there
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
October 16 2022 00:22 GMT
#61
watching the vods, what in the fuck are these EG jersey colors?!
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-16 04:23:36
October 16 2022 04:12 GMT
#62
fnaticcccccccccccccccccccccc

4MEN BLACKHOLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-16 05:02:35
October 16 2022 04:55 GMT
#63
Game 1 TL vs EG is suprisingly even after Pudge Aghs. TL looked average yesterday while EG looked very strong. Sven doesn't get to do anything in the fights.

Probably need to get an abyssal on Nightfall to stun through bkb.

Then he got to hit two fights in a row and EG won them easily.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-16 05:21:08
October 16 2022 05:14 GMT
#64
Is rapier on Sven right choice? Wouldn't a refresher be stronger? If he wanted DPS another crit or attack speed item such as bloodthorn? A good thing is it forces him to play back. So he gets to actually DPS.

Silver Edge would probably be the best one, actually getting close enough to blink on people.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-16 05:28:55
October 16 2022 05:28 GMT
#65
Refresher it should have been for double bkb/linken. But super late game brood always look meh.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 16 2022 05:31 GMT
#66
EG didn't necessarily throw that game, but losing what, 4, without buy back was basically the end. Close brawly game though
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-16 05:32:05
October 16 2022 05:31 GMT
#67
Basically no need to be in that position, but just EG things
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Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
October 16 2022 05:35 GMT
#68
Phew, that EG vs. TL game. I'm not sure I can take that much stress this early in groups.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-16 05:39:24
October 16 2022 05:38 GMT
#69
On October 16 2022 14:31 emperorchampion wrote:
Basically no need to be in that position, but just EG things


They couldn't fight without a linken once pudge had blink + bkb. Lost two fights in a row at that timing. Then won three in a row with linken and better positioning.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-16 06:21:38
October 16 2022 06:20 GMT
#70
Liquids second draft was so much faster than EGs. Especially the EG supports were greedy.

For those watching LGD vs OG, was it LGD playing well finally or OG playing poorly? Pango seems to have been a large part of it.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 16 2022 06:23 GMT
#71
On October 16 2022 15:20 Yurie wrote:
Liquids second draft was so much faster than EGs. Especially the EG supports were greedy.

For those watching LGD vs OG, was it LGD playing well finally or OG playing poorly? Pango seems to have been a large part of it.

lgd playing well and og drafting themselves into difficult to escape holes
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Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
October 16 2022 08:29 GMT
#72
Some very good teamfights by Spirit against TA game2!
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-16 09:54:24
October 16 2022 09:54 GMT
#73
Such a nice team fight from LGD there. 3 in second black hole after a toss out start.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-16 11:07:47
October 16 2022 11:02 GMT
#74
Decided to pick a team to cheer for before TI to make it more exciting and picked Liquid, oh my this series must be hard to watch for a real Liquid Dota fan...

Two big early game leads followed by letting PSG.LGD attacking 2-3 people with 5 and coming back into the game. And in both games it felt Liquid thought they could win those battles as the lead was big and got smashed.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
October 16 2022 11:10 GMT
#75
LGD are probably the best at comebacks. I don't care how big your lead is against them they still win a couple team fights and before you know it it's an even game again.
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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3260 Posts
October 16 2022 12:28 GMT
#76
3 man ravage into 3 man sanity's, Secret is looking sloppy and Tundra is making all the right moves. Clean game by Tundra.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 16 2022 13:40 GMT
#77
At least we don't have any 0-18 teams this TI.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 16 2022 15:43 GMT
#78
Nope, no complete duds :D
I'm probably missing the Chinese fight-out tomorrow. But let's see if "we" looked at the wrong team from China!
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 16 2022 18:26 GMT
#79
On October 16 2022 20:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
LGD are probably the best at comebacks. I don't care how big your lead is against them they still win a couple team fights and before you know it it's an even game again.

I’d argue for spirit because they’re so good at team fighting you can never count them out
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 16 2022 18:31 GMT
#80
Yeah group B is super close, one 0-4 or 4-0 day can completely change things

On October 17 2022 00:43 Geisterkarle wrote:
Nope, no complete duds :D
I'm probably missing the Chinese fight-out tomorrow. But let's see if "we" looked at the wrong team from China!


Haven’t had a chance to watch much, but result wise aster is finally showing up internationally and rng on top of group A is also interesting. Then again, they haven’t played lgd og and eg. 1-1 with liquid is nothing to scoff at though.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 16 2022 23:33 GMT
#81
Browsing the group stage statistics page on liquipedia: (Wiki)The International/2022/Statistics/Group Stage

Some interesting heroes:

Games Win Loss WR
Naga 12 10 2 83.33%
Nyx 18 14 4 77.78%
Tony 30 22 8 73.33%
SF 35 23 12 65.71%

Tiny is especially crazy 22-8, also SF making a huge comeback is cool to see. Also entity 3-0 with arc warden
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-17 02:16:45
October 17 2022 02:13 GMT
#82
RNG seems to understand the Meta much better. SF + Nyx opening vs Chen + Primal.

Then you have EG vs BB or OG vs Hokori where both Nyx and Tiny are ignored.

Think Nyx might be one of the tournament defining heroes if it continues winning. So few teams that want to play it.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 17 2022 02:18 GMT
#83
On October 17 2022 11:13 Yurie wrote:
RNG seems to understand the Meta much better. SF + Nyx opening vs Chen + Primal.

Then you have EG vs BB where both Nyx and Tiny are ignored.

Primal is up there also - third in total contests and second most banned. I think he's mostly been mid from what I've seen but probably you can play him in a bunch of positions
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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Last Edited: 2022-10-17 02:43:04
October 17 2022 02:35 GMT
#84
A different way to see it is perhaps that LGD is trying out counters to the "best" heroes while in the group stage. While RNG is training on them.

The Jakiro did not work out for RNG. Feels similar for Liquid Veno.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 17 2022 03:04 GMT
#85
rtz hooks !
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Yurie
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Last Edited: 2022-10-17 03:20:05
October 17 2022 03:13 GMT
#86
Sad RNG is forfeiting game 2. Might explain the lacklustre game 1?

If they Forfeit the other two series today it will get interesting in the group stage since they can maximum have 11 wins due to 1 series tomorrow. Which is against OG, if they skip all games today a 1-1 tomorrow would seem strong. Thus going from 9-1 to 10-8 or 9-9 isn't out of possibility...

If I was them I would 100% play the Hokori series, even if I have to have 2 standins. 2 wins there would pretty much guarantee an upper bracket.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 17 2022 03:30 GMT
#87
EG getting marci, naga and last picking abed's hero. win or lose, I like this!
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Yurie
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Last Edited: 2022-10-17 03:54:41
October 17 2022 03:51 GMT
#88
Seems you were right, 17 minute win.

Ouch, Liquid taking horrible fights. Outfarm, lose fight. So lead goes between the teams.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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Last Edited: 2022-10-17 04:09:38
October 17 2022 04:07 GMT
#89
Lol GG.Boom rolling out to clear wave and gets stuck in terrain. Annoying to have to specify that way due to Boom having a tight game against Soniqs at the same time and BetBoom losing just before.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 17 2022 04:19 GMT
#90
https://weibo.com/6664804758/MaI9WEPtQ

Somnus tested positive for Covid it seems.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 17 2022 04:22 GMT
#91
Eh hopefully it doesn’t affect anything else
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Yurie
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October 17 2022 04:27 GMT
#92
The new stronger Ancient might have decided the Hokkori vs OG game. Was a very tight game 2.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 17 2022 04:54 GMT
#93
Nice ending to the Thundra game. Classical Divine Gyro vs the world.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 17 2022 05:28 GMT
#94
On October 17 2022 13:54 Yurie wrote:
Nice ending to the Thundra game. Classical Divine Gyro vs the world.

That was hilarious, gyro 1v4 or something at the end and 33 wanting to save the throne but not wanting die
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 17 2022 06:13 GMT
#95
What a game two of Secret-Spirit! Worth a watch if you didn't!
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-17 06:30:15
October 17 2022 06:29 GMT
#96
On October 17 2022 15:13 Geisterkarle wrote:
What a game two of Secret-Spirit! Worth a watch if you didn't!

Agreed. Was good, though semi working now so can't actively watch. Will only skim OG vs TL. Will fully miss last series of the day. :/
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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Last Edited: 2022-10-17 07:15:48
October 17 2022 07:05 GMT
#97
Liquid picks seems so-so. Especially keeping Enigma core into Silencer. A bloodseeker pick could have been nice against pango, Secret really showed off with that.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 17 2022 07:28 GMT
#98
Fnatic vs Aster game two also incredible.
Terrorblade and Sniper with Mega Creeps ... and can't finish the job
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
October 17 2022 08:49 GMT
#99
I like the casting duo commentating EG games right now
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 17 2022 09:27 GMT
#100
Liquid vs OG is live again. Sadly I miss it since there was a 2 hour pause in the game.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-17 09:49:29
October 17 2022 09:43 GMT
#101
Yeah, some kind of reconnection bug hit...
And Liquid used their downtime well! Good teamfights atm! Can they get back from this 20k lead? (now only 13k)

// edit: Liquid are doing it!
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
October 17 2022 11:20 GMT
#102
EG secured upper bracket
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
October 17 2022 11:54 GMT
#103
Were they able to resume the OG Liquid game 1 or did they have to remake from scratch? Didn't get a chance to watch any of it, just skimming stuff on reddit.
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
October 17 2022 12:01 GMT
#104
On October 17 2022 20:54 Firebolt145 wrote:
Were they able to resume the OG Liquid game 1 or did they have to remake from scratch? Didn't get a chance to watch any of it, just skimming stuff on reddit.

They resumed without remake
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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
October 17 2022 13:07 GMT
#105
Holy shit this is the year of Arteezy
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 17 2022 14:25 GMT
#106
And today is not the day of RNG... they were looking so good!
Hope Covid is not the reason for that
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 17 2022 14:41 GMT
#107
On October 17 2022 23:25 Geisterkarle wrote:
And today is not the day of RNG... they were looking so good!
Hope Covid is not the reason for that

Hmm I think they just finally faced the more difficult teams in their group
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 17 2022 14:56 GMT
#108
But yeah it’s gotta throw you off your game with the whole situation- quite unfortunate :/
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 17 2022 14:59 GMT
#109
EG upper bracket is beyond my wildest dreams, congrats to them!
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4559 Posts
October 17 2022 15:48 GMT
#110
On October 17 2022 23:25 Geisterkarle wrote:
And today is not the day of RNG... they were looking so good!
Hope Covid is not the reason for that



reddit is saying their whole team is covid +ve...

That is some shitty luck
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-17 15:58:01
October 17 2022 15:57 GMT
#111
weibo seems to be blaming LGD, not sure how true, but it wasnt just one comment like this

"lgd潘飛不上報但隨行,處罰不應該是禁賽直接淘汰嗎?在國內潘飛早就進去了"

rough translation:

a LGD member already positive but still travelled with the team, shouldn't they be disqualified? in china, he would already be quarantined
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 17 2022 16:39 GMT
#112
On October 18 2022 00:57 zev318 wrote:
weibo seems to be blaming LGD, not sure how true, but it wasnt just one comment like this

"lgd潘飛不上報但隨行,處罰不應該是禁賽直接淘汰嗎?在國內潘飛早就進去了"

rough translation:

a LGD member already positive but still travelled with the team, shouldn't they be disqualified? in china, he would already be quarantined


LGD got penalties due to it in today's games. If that is the source is of course unclear, where did the LGD person get it from?
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
October 17 2022 17:20 GMT
#113
Missed every game today, was at the office (good thing I'm working from home tomorrow ), any recommended games to catch-up besides the ones already mentioned in the thread?
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 17 2022 17:23 GMT
#114
Liquid vs OG game 1 after the long pause is a good game.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-17 17:40:30
October 17 2022 17:32 GMT
#115
On October 18 2022 01:39 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2022 00:57 zev318 wrote:
weibo seems to be blaming LGD, not sure how true, but it wasnt just one comment like this

"lgd潘飛不上報但隨行,處罰不應該是禁賽直接淘汰嗎?在國內潘飛早就進去了"

rough translation:

a LGD member already positive but still travelled with the team, shouldn't they be disqualified? in china, he would already be quarantined


LGD got penalties due to it in today's games. If that is the source is of course unclear, where did the LGD person get it from?


actually it seems to be more like he caught it at the tournament or something and did not report
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
October 17 2022 17:38 GMT
#116
Where are people watching VODs? NoobfromUA only seems to have a couple games here and there.
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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-17 17:52:34
October 17 2022 17:51 GMT
#117
On October 18 2022 02:38 Firebolt145 wrote:
Where are people watching VODs? NoobfromUA only seems to have a couple games here and there.

They are all available under the "Watch" tab in-game. Go to Watch -> Tournaments -> TI
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
October 17 2022 19:04 GMT
#118
On October 18 2022 02:38 Firebolt145 wrote:
Where are people watching VODs? NoobfromUA only seems to have a couple games here and there.

PGL youtube channel
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RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
October 17 2022 20:28 GMT
#119
eventvods.com has a spoiler-free site. It doesnt even show you the remaining length of the game when using the youtube mirror.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-17 20:30:54
October 17 2022 20:29 GMT
#120
Man EG are playing so well right now and its amazing. Everyone is playing well and Arteezy is just making all the right moves and seems zen'd into Dota right now, wow!

Only sad thing is that the groupstage > knockout stage "Break" could potentially stunt the momentum, which is only thing that worries me right now.
On October 18 2022 05:28 RolleMcKnolle wrote:
eventvods.com has a spoiler-free site. It doesnt even show you the remaining length of the game when using the youtube mirror.

This is what i use when i watch VODs as well and it is very good, sometimes it is slow to upload all the games with draft times etc etc, but when you know which streams your team is on you can unspoil your way through pastbroadcast on twitch and watch spoiler free too.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 18 2022 03:12 GMT
#121
man TSM is pretty much screwed after that loss I think
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 18 2022 05:00 GMT
#122
Liquid qualified for upper bracket. Didn't expect that after the first group stage day.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-18 05:48:21
October 18 2022 05:48 GMT
#123
Oh, BOOM won a map against EG?
Was that EG screwing around - they are locked in first place anyway - or did BOOM play well?
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
October 18 2022 05:53 GMT
#124
On October 18 2022 14:48 Geisterkarle wrote:
Oh, BOOM won a map against EG?
Was that EG screwing around - they are locked in first place anyway - or did BOOM play well?

EG firstpicked primal and pudge and got countered with bristle
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-18 06:28:17
October 18 2022 06:23 GMT
#125
Looking like tiebreakers between soniqs and BB if the games continue as they are. Boom could in theory 2-0 EG for 3-way tie.

BB just lost 10k of their lead after I wrote that.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
October 18 2022 06:36 GMT
#126
It never seems to matter how far ahead of LGD you are.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 18 2022 06:43 GMT
#127
LGD almost turned that game back around. Ended up very close from a stomp against them.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 18 2022 06:51 GMT
#128
Man, BOOM get into tiebreaker against EG! GG!
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 18 2022 06:52 GMT
#129
3-way tiebreakers. There went my fantasy for the day. :D
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
October 18 2022 07:37 GMT
#130
I hope secret will help entity to sneak into the lower bracket! It doesn't look good after the loss against talon and being 0-1 against Tundra
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 18 2022 08:38 GMT
#131
rooting for Talon for more SEA and Peenoise pride in SEA TI!!
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-18 08:41:45
October 18 2022 08:39 GMT
#132
If TSM win and Talon lose we have another 3-way tiebreaker for elimination

bc winning second game is a 3-way for upper bracket. Looking bleak though.
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
October 18 2022 08:40 GMT
#133
Puppey not holding any grudges against Entity apparently and helping them to avoid elimination.

TA is currently mega throwing against BC and a possible slot at the upper bracket. If they lose against BC, we are having a 3-way-tiebreaker between TA, BC and Team Spirit for the last remaining slot.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 18 2022 08:46 GMT
#134
If fnatic 2-0s TSM, shouldnt it be a 4 way tie?
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 18 2022 08:47 GMT
#135
If TA loses can't it be a 4-way tie, adding Fnatic?
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
October 18 2022 08:49 GMT
#136
TA vs BC g2 is pretty crazy!
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 18 2022 08:56 GMT
#137
TA Won. No upper bracket tiebreaker.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 18 2022 08:57 GMT
#138
holy shit that BC Thunder Awaken game.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 18 2022 09:01 GMT
#139
So if TSM somehow wins this game 3-way, otherwise just 2 teams in tiebreaker.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 18 2022 09:06 GMT
#140
I had to work a bit after map 1 of Spirt-Aster. And second map was 19min? wtf happened?
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Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
October 18 2022 09:08 GMT
#141
TSM officially eliminated from TI. Presume we will see some changes in the team, they have been losing their drive lately...Saberlight may return to EU, although it does not seem that there is any open place for him at a decent team.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-18 09:16:28
October 18 2022 09:12 GMT
#142
On October 18 2022 18:08 Rufus Dupres wrote:
TSM officially eliminated from TI. Presume we will see some changes in the team, they have been losing their drive lately...Saberlight may return to EU, although it does not seem that there is any open place for him at a decent team.

Liquid is going to have to do some roster changes due to Matumba but not sure if they just want a new carry or are doing more things. Gaimin Gladiators or Entity doing some changes also seem likely.
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
October 18 2022 09:25 GMT
#143
On October 18 2022 18:12 Yurie wrote:
Liquid is going to have to do some roster changes due to Matumba but not sure if they just want a new carry or are doing more things. Gaimin Gladiators or Entity doing some changes also seem likely.


True...the shoes which have to be filled when Matu will leave are big, the remaining four seems to be back in shape right in time unless somebody wants to leave do not think they will change anything.

We also do not know what Nigma is up to, rumours are saying that Kuro will retire and Miracle will be having another lengthy break and miss out next year due to health issues.
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 18 2022 09:42 GMT
#144
BOOMs Bristleback seems to be something to address! Working well for them!
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 18 2022 10:30 GMT
#145
Looking like Boom will 2-0 the tiebreaker.
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
October 18 2022 11:01 GMT
#146
Bitter day for NA. EG as usual last hope for the region.

Boom playing finally the way many of them have expected prior the start of the tournament. Live another day...

Entity also avoiding their elimination and sending Talon home...
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-18 11:05:45
October 18 2022 11:04 GMT
#147
To trash a bit on NA dota.
After group stage there is:
Top 1 in a group
Tied last in the same group
Last in another group
Second from last in LCQ group
Last in other LCQ group

To be honest this is surprising as the second NA team performed decently at LANs during the season.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 18 2022 11:05 GMT
#148
On October 18 2022 20:01 Rufus Dupres wrote:
...
Entity also avoiding their elimination and sending Talon home...

It is a Bo3. I also think Entity will do it but it isn't done.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 18 2022 11:06 GMT
#149
Can somebody explain Bet Boom last picking Chen? Why did they need to hide that pick?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44222 Posts
October 18 2022 11:18 GMT
#150
How the hell did thunder awaken reach upper bracket. That's kinda amazing. In fact even Hokori almost made it damn
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 18 2022 11:21 GMT
#151
Entity vs Talon. Enigma and SF ignored in first two phases.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-18 12:32:52
October 18 2022 12:32 GMT
#152
Entity stomped Talon in that series.

(Wiki)The International/2022/Main Event

BC vs Hokori. SA losing teams quickly.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
October 18 2022 13:18 GMT
#153
I saw Talon up like 8k and was working a bit and when I looked next, Entitiy was destroying T4s
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 18 2022 14:11 GMT
#154
On October 18 2022 20:04 Yurie wrote:
To trash a bit on NA dota.
After group stage there is:
Top 1 in a group
Tied last in the same group
Last in another group
Second from last in LCQ group
Last in other LCQ group

To be honest this is surprising as the second NA team performed decently at LANs during the season.

Well they’re always at the top and the bottom :/

But yeah, poor showing from na, not necessarily unexpected though.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 18 2022 14:13 GMT
#155
On October 18 2022 21:32 Yurie wrote:
Entity stomped Talon in that series.

(Wiki)The International/2022/Main Event

BC vs Hokori. SA losing teams quickly.

Wow that na/sa bracket sucks wtf
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Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-18 15:06:01
October 18 2022 15:05 GMT
#156
On October 18 2022 23:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Wow that na/sa bracket sucks wtf


Well, at least it ensures that they are having a top 6 and top 8 team. Best result for NA/SA since 2019.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11908 Posts
October 18 2022 16:34 GMT
#157
On October 18 2022 18:25 Rufus Dupres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2022 18:12 Yurie wrote:
Liquid is going to have to do some roster changes due to Matumba but not sure if they just want a new carry or are doing more things. Gaimin Gladiators or Entity doing some changes also seem likely.


True...the shoes which have to be filled when Matu will leave are big, the remaining four seems to be back in shape right in time unless somebody wants to leave do not think they will change anything.

We also do not know what Nigma is up to, rumours are saying that Kuro will retire and Miracle will be having another lengthy break and miss out next year due to health issues.


Alliance is likely to make a new team from the ground up. So there are plenty of EU options, more about which ones gel and are competitive.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 18 2022 18:54 GMT
#158
On October 19 2022 00:05 Rufus Dupres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2022 23:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Wow that na/sa bracket sucks wtf


Well, at least it ensures that they are having a top 6 and top 8 team. Best result for NA/SA since 2019.

I'd really like to see an SA team in the top4, but I'd also like to see EG top1 so...

Just bad luck this year!
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-18 19:35:24
October 18 2022 18:59 GMT
#159
On October 19 2022 01:34 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2022 18:25 Rufus Dupres wrote:
On October 18 2022 18:12 Yurie wrote:
Liquid is going to have to do some roster changes due to Matumba but not sure if they just want a new carry or are doing more things. Gaimin Gladiators or Entity doing some changes also seem likely.


True...the shoes which have to be filled when Matu will leave are big, the remaining four seems to be back in shape right in time unless somebody wants to leave do not think they will change anything.

We also do not know what Nigma is up to, rumours are saying that Kuro will retire and Miracle will be having another lengthy break and miss out next year due to health issues.


Alliance is likely to make a new team from the ground up. So there are plenty of EU options, more about which ones gel and are competitive.

I feel like there could be a giant EU shuffle coming and even if OG doesn't make a huge lower bracket run they may consider mixing things up. Consider also Yapzor may comeback - I can see basically every team changing. Maybe not Tundra depending on how they feel and their TI results.

edit: I also feel like there is a dearth of pos 1 players in EU coming up with potentially miracle out, nikobaby doesn't seem interested and matu retiring. Players like Ace and Reso have moved to pos3. iltw has never seemed to gel well into teams. Yuragi/Nisha/Skiter/Crystallis will have huge value next season and there will probably be more EEU/SEA/SA imports for pos1.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 18 2022 23:50 GMT
#160
Im just worried who to replace Matu with.

He has such a great playstyle as a flexible 1
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Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
October 19 2022 08:09 GMT
#161
On October 19 2022 08:50 icystorage wrote:
Im just worried who to replace Matu with.

He has such a great playstyle as a flexible 1


Yes, truly the unsung hero on the TI-winning Liquid-squad. Many carry players have a limited hero pool, but he seems to be able to play everything and make it work and his signature heroes are still worth to be banned out. Like Miracle back in the days...there was basically no hero, he could not play and make game winning plays/moves.

What WEU is missing in decent carries, can be picked up at EEU. Seeing how Pure is performing with Entity(maybe not at this TI due to stress), same may be a winning formula.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
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