• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:37
CEST 03:37
KST 10:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris34Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195
StarCraft 2
General
A Eulogy for the Six Pool BoxeR's Wings Episode 2 - Fan Translation Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away
Tourneys
$5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) Esports World Cup 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below
Brood War
General
Post ASL20 Ro24 discussion. BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ No Rain in ASL20? How do I speak directly to Coinbase?1-(888)-419-97 Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
[IPSL] CSLAN Review and CSLPRO Reimagined! [ASL20] Ro24 Group D [ASL20] Ro24 Group E Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The year 2050 European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
How Culture and Conflict Imp…
TrAiDoS
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2363 users

Interview with Ahfu

Forum Index > Dota 2 General
Post a Reply
Maverick_2009
Profile Joined December 2014
Somewhere2002 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-15 13:30:52
June 15 2018 13:24 GMT
#1

Interview with Ahfu


This interview was done by 2009 during the ESL One Birmingham Major.

[image loading]


Firstly, thanks for doing this interview with us. Let’s start with this tournament. You guys were almost eliminated by Newbee on the first day during the group stages where you lost the first game and Game Two ended up being really close even though LFY had the early lead. What was the mood like during that second game when Luna almost destroyed your throne?

We just didn’t wanna go home *laughs*. Well, our mood at the time was really just thinking about the fact that we attended this tournament to prepare for TI. The mindset we had was that if we couldn’t even win these games at ESL One Birmingham, then how could we even play in TI? We haven’t been looking too good lately so our main goal here was really to play as many matches as possible so that we can improve. That is to say that we refuse to give up or type “gg” until the game has really ended.

So did you guys feel relieved when Luna died without buyback and you guys successfully repelled the split push from DP with Exorcism?

Not really. When we play in officials, we calculate these things so we know that Luna was dead without buyback, we simply said to push out the three lanes and all-in, it was our only option and that became the mindset that we used to approach the remainder of the game. Of course we felt a little relieved, but it wasn’t like “oh we were really lucky” or anything like that.

You guys won Game 3 and the series with KotL + Bristleback. You guys ran the same combo vs Mski in Game 2 but it didn’t work out well, what happened?

Mski played around the combo really well. These heroes have really good laning abilities together and they become really strong after the laning phase so they wanna fight. So I would say Mski were really smart in their approach to it, it was really obvious that they didn’t want to fight with us so they just kept splitting and delaying to farm up to the point that they could easily take us on in a fight.

In your last game, against Mski, you guys picked Earth Spirit, a hero that we haven’t seen in a long time. What was the reasoning behind it? Was it perhaps something like a comfort pick in the face of elimination?

Nah, we had a talk after the first game and I told my team that I felt like Mski didn’t want to fight us and since I was playing SK that game, I needed Blink to fight. Since I don’t have Blink right off the bat in the early game, we can’t really force fights. So I told them that to play against Mski and force fights, they should give me Earth Spirit because the hero doesn’t really need items, he only needs levels and he can initiate and fight, so I told them that I think Earth Spirit is really good here. They said okay so it’s sorta become one of our strats.

Let’s talk a little more about you. You competed at the Boston Major with WG.Unity, a SEA team. Comparing your time back in SEA and your time in China now, what are the differences?

Back in SEA, I was the captain of WG.Unity, so the things I thought about was how to draft and what strategies to use, that kinda stuff. After coming to China, I became a player. I was focused on learning from my teammates like ddc, Yao and, Super because they had more experience than me. For example, how should we pick heroes such that it’s easier to win? We would pick the more stable heroes and basically form strategies around them. Basically, they’ve taught me a lot of different things about Dota that’s different from how I knew it back then. In SEA, things were more about being flashy I guess, picking heroes like Ember, Invoker, heroes that buy Blink and look really good, heroes that are good for making highlight videos on YouTube *laughs*. In China, the heroes they like are like DP and DK where you have certain levels and items then you know you can win. You could say it’s a safer way of playing.

After TI7, LFY changed captains from ddc to Yao. What are the differences in their captaining styles?

ddc was the more quiet type and he would be more willing to accept other people’s opinions. Yao, on the other hand, is the type who likes talking. He is more strongly opinionated and takes on a more leadership-based role. He would have an idea of how to play and ask us for our opinions on it so he speaks up more whereas ddc being the more quiet type just doesn’t really do this.

Since TI7 where you guys got 3rd, besides a change in captains, what other significant changes have there been to affect your current performance compared to back then?

I guess the main difference would be that our goals were the same back then, everyone knew that we were gonna play at TI and how we wanted to play our games and that we wanted to do our best at TI. Now, there’s basically a loss of direction for the team in that we don’t really have a specific shared goal that’s clear to us, it’s kinda blurry. But at the moment, it’s still kinda okay.

So you’re saying that you guys don’t have a bigger, more highly prioritized goal together?

Back after TI I guess. I feel that it was basically like TI is over so we relaxed a bit and after you relax you become weaker. But now that TI is coming up again, I think everyone understands what our goals are and we all know how we’re gonna go about it. That was from before of course but lately everyone’s just more hardworking.

There have been several changes to how pos 4 is played, what are your opinions on the role at the moment?

I guess there are more demands of supports now. Pos 4 used to basically be roaming and ganking on your own and that’s good enough. Now, you kinda have to move around with two supports as a single unit whatever lane it is. You need better chemistry between the two supports and they have to play together I guess. For example, if you wanna fight for a rune you obviously can’t just get it by yourself, so you wanna ask your teammates to come and help you and I guess you just have to emphasize on teamwork more.

That said, you guys are essentially part of the same organisation as LGD. Do you guys have any kinda rivalry and do you guys often scrim against them in particular?

Frankly speaking, LFY and LGD may be under the same organisation but I think that we treat them like any other team. We’re essentially competitors. At best, maybe players are more familiar and friendly with each other. Maybe when we wanna scrim and stuff then we tend to ask them but we also ask a lot of other teams so there isn’t really any particular difference.

Yesterday, I asked Moon from Mski whether he would want to play with anyone in particular in the future and he said you. So what about you, do you have the same sentiments?

Yeah, sure! Actually, the thing is that I’ve signed a contract in China already. So what I’m thinking is that after I’ve finished playing in China for these few years and the contract ends, I might go back to Malaysia and find my old teammates and play together again in a more fun environment like before.

[image loading]


Going on that, we talked about LGD earlier. From a personal standpoint, what’s your relationship like with xNova now, is there any sort of rivalry?

We’re still really good friends. I was the one who basically asked him to come over and play in LGD. There isn’t really a rivalry, we’re just good friends so sometimes we’ll go out together and have a cup of tea and chat, play Dota together that kinda stuff.

LFY have to go through the Open Qualifiers since you guys changed rosters outside of the roster lock. Have you guys made any special preparations for it?

ESL One Birmingham is basically our preparation. We came over and we’ve practiced a lot of things and tried a lot of things. We’ve been watching how other teams, the top teams play. We all have the same goal in mind and we all understand that we came here to practice and prepare. That said, the results here don’t really matter to us but we know that we must perform to the best of our abilities at TI.

You said that you guys basically came here to prepare. Does that mean that you have been scrimming with the Western teams more?

So we’ve come to this tournament and we’re watching teams like OpTic and VP and seeing how they play. Then we think on it and talk about how we’re gonna play and execute our own strategies.

Speaking of TI, I don’t know if you read Reddit, but there is a sentiment amongst the Western fans that the Chinese teams don’t really look strong except during TI. What’s your opinion on this?

Well, my opinion is that in Western countries, there’s basically only one major holiday, Christmas. On the other hand, in China, after TI, there is a period of celebration about it. After that, during Chinese New Year/Spring Festival, everyone’s basically on break so everyone will relax for awhile and it’s during that time when all the Chinese teams are really weak. That is to say that it’s usually around those three months when the Chinese teams are especially weak.

So it’s basically the same issue as back during the Shanghai Major?

Yeah, it’s kind of a cultural issue because Chinese New Year is a really, really huge and important event in China and the whole country celebrates it for a month or something. That’s the time when Chinese teams are weak. As a result of this cultural factor, it gives off an impression that the Chinese teams are really weak from January to March but when TI closes in, they look really strong. It’s really all just a cultural matter.

I think that wraps up this interview, thanks a lot again for doing this interview with us.

Thanks.


Interviewer 2009
Photographer: TheHexHaven
Graphics Nixer
https://www.twitch.tv/deso_739
Kelefei2016
Profile Joined August 2016
Papua New Guinea504 Posts
June 16 2018 02:59 GMT
#2
He was one of the best post 4 player last year. But after changed from ddc to Yao, they seemed like no chemistry between them and the whole team subsequently.

They are the team dropped the most from TI7, from 3rd to nobody now.
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
June 16 2018 12:33 GMT
#3
Shout outs to VERS on such an in-depth article. So much we don't know about the chinese scene, or the fact there's a general sentiment of not identifying with it. You are the man for keeping the official articles up to date on all scenes. I hope TL does this going forward, it's the only reason why I still come back to read.

On a separate note....
I'm actually kinda shocked how transparent he is with explaining his drafting decisions and giving us inside info on like previous teammates....like I mean something we speculated or kinda knew from data ...but just to confirm it on other captains is like whoa. Him openly giving away his ideology behind mineski, and his decision for earth spirit, basically a draft they relied on to win, is even crazier. Respect whoever the interviewer & journalist who wrote this up....really cool tidbits to learn. Perhaps i'm blowing it up, but him revealing the weakest 3 months to the western scene is like...suicide for his entire scene...that must take some balls.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11865 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-16 21:57:15
June 16 2018 21:57 GMT
#4
On June 16 2018 21:33 saocyn wrote:
Shout outs to VERS on such an in-depth article. So much we don't know about the chinese scene, or the fact there's a general sentiment of not identifying with it. You are the man for keeping the official articles up to date on all scenes. I hope TL does this going forward, it's the only reason why I still come back to read.

On a separate note....
I'm actually kinda shocked how transparent he is with explaining his drafting decisions and giving us inside info on like previous teammates....like I mean something we speculated or kinda knew from data ...but just to confirm it on other captains is like whoa. Him openly giving away his ideology behind mineski, and his decision for earth spirit, basically a draft they relied on to win, is even crazier. Respect whoever the interviewer & journalist who wrote this up....really cool tidbits to learn. Perhaps i'm blowing it up, but him revealing the weakest 3 months to the western scene is like...suicide for his entire scene...that must take some balls.


They have always been weak around Chinese new years. Though the sentiment expressed in the question is that they often look weak even in May a lot of the time.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3253 Posts
June 18 2018 21:13 GMT
#5
On June 16 2018 21:33 saocyn wrote:
Shout outs to VERS on such an in-depth article. So much we don't know about the chinese scene, or the fact there's a general sentiment of not identifying with it. You are the man for keeping the official articles up to date on all scenes. I hope TL does this going forward, it's the only reason why I still come back to read.

On a separate note....
I'm actually kinda shocked how transparent he is with explaining his drafting decisions and giving us inside info on like previous teammates....like I mean something we speculated or kinda knew from data ...but just to confirm it on other captains is like whoa. Him openly giving away his ideology behind mineski, and his decision for earth spirit, basically a draft they relied on to win, is even crazier. Respect whoever the interviewer & journalist who wrote this up....really cool tidbits to learn. Perhaps i'm blowing it up, but him revealing the weakest 3 months to the western scene is like...suicide for his entire scene...that must take some balls.

That Chinese teams are weak around Chinese New Year is pretty common knowledge at latest after it blew up last year alongside the RotK crisis.
Also pretty sure that most pros, especially drafters can analyze fairly well why people pick certain heroes in certain situations.

But I agree that it's a good interview with depth.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
SEL S2 Championship: Ro16
CranKy Ducklings128
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 145
ProTech118
RuFF_SC2 108
CosmosSc2 35
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 784
NaDa 84
Aegong 50
Purpose 27
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm98
League of Legends
JimRising 279
Counter-Strike
fl0m1734
Other Games
summit1g10170
shahzam966
Day[9].tv825
C9.Mang0484
Sick445
ViBE216
WinterStarcraft86
Mew2King37
ROOTCatZ14
Vindicta9
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV40
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21899
League of Legends
• Doublelift4571
Other Games
• Day9tv825
Upcoming Events
LiuLi Cup
9h 23m
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Cure vs Rogue
Classic vs HeRoMaRinE
Cosmonarchy
14h 23m
OyAji vs Sziky
Sziky vs WolFix
WolFix vs OyAji
Big Brain Bouts
14h 23m
Iba vs GgMaChine
TriGGeR vs Bunny
Reynor vs Classic
Serral vs Clem
BSL Team Wars
17h 23m
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
17h 23m
Team Hawk vs Team Bonyth
Code For Giants Cup
20h 53m
SC Evo League
1d 10h
TaeJa vs Cure
Rogue vs threepoint
ByuN vs Creator
MaNa vs Classic
Maestros of the Game
1d 14h
ShoWTimE vs Cham
GuMiho vs Ryung
Zoun vs Spirit
Rogue vs MaNa
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d 16h
SC Evo League
2 days
[ Show More ]
Maestros of the Game
2 days
SHIN vs Creator
Astrea vs Lambo
Bunny vs SKillous
HeRoMaRinE vs TriGGeR
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Sziky
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Maru vs SHIN
MaNa vs MaxPax
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
WardiTV Summer 2025
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
Acropolis #4 - TS1
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
Sisters' Call Cup
Skyesports Masters 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.