Dota Patch 7.17

yamato77

11589 Posts

June 10 2018 15:15 GMT

Patch 7.17
Released

http://www.dota2.com/news/updates/41022/

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7.17:
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* Eul's Scepter of Divinity: Bonus movement speed reduced from +40 to +30
* Moon Shard: Night vision increased from 300/150 (base/consumed) to 400/200
* Refresher: Recipe cost reduced from 1800 to 1700
* Talisman of Evasion: Evasion reduced from 20% to 15%
* Talisman of Evasion: Cost reduced from 1450 to 1400
* Solar Crest: Base evasion reduced from 20% to 15% (active application is still 20%)

* Abaddon: Level 10 Talent increased from +20% XP to +25%
* Abaddon: Level 15 Talent increased from +60 Mist Coil Heal/Damage to +75
* Abaddon: Level 15 Talent increased from +6 Armor to +8

* Alchemist: Chemical Rage now applies a basic dispel on cast

* Ancient Apparition: Level 10 Talent increased from +60 Gold/Min to +90

* Anti-Mage: Base damage increased by 2

* Bane: Base damage reduced by 2
* Bane: Brain Sap manacost increased from 70/100/130/160 to 90/115/140/165

* Beastmaster: Base armor reduced by 2

* Bristleback: Viscous Nasal Goo now has a -2 base armor reduction

* Clinkz: Base armor increased by 1
* Clinkz: Strafe dodge now works against non-player units
* Clinkz: Strafe attack speed increased from 80/140/200/260 to 110/160/210/260

* Clockwerk: Base damage reduced by 4

* Crystal Maiden: Crystal Nova cooldown reduced from 12/11/10/9 to 11/10/9/8
* Crystal Maiden: Level 15 Talent increased from +120 Gold/Min to +150

* Dark Willow: Bramble Maze cooldown reduced from 40/35/30/25 to 34/31/28/25
* Dark Willow: Level 10 Talent increased from +20 Damage to +30

* Death Pr ophet: Exorcism spirit spawn interval increased from 0.3 to 0.35

* Disruptor: Thunder Strike cooldown increased from 15/13/11/9 to 18/15/12/9

* Earthshaker: Echo Slam now has 100 Initial Damage

* Enchantress: Nature's Attendants cooldown reduced from 45 to 35
* Enchantress: Enchant slow rescaled from 3/4/5/6 to 3.75/4.5/5.25/6

* Enigma: Demonic Conversion manacost reduced from 170 to 140/150/160/170
* Enigma: Demonic Conversion Eidolon HP regen increased from 0.25 to 4

* Gyrocopter: Level 15 Talent changed from +3 Flak Cannon Attacks to +0.5s Homing Missile Stun Duration
* Gyrocopter: Level 20 Talent reduced from +45 Movement Speed to +40

* Huskar: Level 25 Talent changed from 0 Inner Vitality Cooldown to Burning Spears Pure and Pierces Immunity
* Huskar: Level 25 Talent increased from +125 Attack Range to +150

* Invoker: Catacylsm max spread distance reduced from 220 to 200

* Io: Spirits damage reduced from 25/50/75/100 to 20/40/60/80
* Io: Tether movement speed reduced from 7/10/13/16 to 5/8/11/14%
* Io: Level 10 Talent reduced from +60 Damage to +45
* Io: Level 20 Talent reduced from +20 Health Regen to +15

* Juggernaut: Base armor increased by 1

* Keeper of the Light: Chakra Magic no longer has a 25/35/45/55 manacost

* Leshrac: Lightning Storm cast range reduced from 650/700/750/800 to 650

* Lich: Frost Blast attack slow increased from -20 to -30
* Lich: Frost Blast cooldown reduced from 8 to 7
* Lich: Level 10 Talent increased from +175 Health to +200

* Lycan: Feral Impulse damage reduced from 15/26/37/48% to 12/24/36/48%

* Magnus: Base strength increased by 1
* Magnus: Skewer slow increased from 2.5/2.75/3/3.25 to 3.25
* Magnus: Shockwave damage increased from 75/150/225/300 to 90/160/230/300

* Meepo: Base armor increased by 2

* Mirana: Level 25 Talent reduced from -80s Moonlight Shadow Cooldown to -75s

* Naga Siren: Song of the Siren manacost increased from 100/150/200 to 150/175/200

* Necrophos: Level 15 Talent increased from +16% Ghost Shroud Slow to +20%
* Necrophos: Level 25 Talent increased from -1.5s Death Pulse Cooldown to -2.5s
* Necrophos: Level 25 Talent increased from +0.6 heartstopper Aura to +0.8

* Night Stalker: Crippling Fear cooldown increased from 12 to 24/20/16/12
* Night Stalker: Void cooldown increased from 8 to 11/10/9/8

* Oracle: Fortune's End is no longer disjointable
* Oracle: Level 15 Talent increased from +90 Gold/Min to +120

* Pangolier: Fixed Rolling Thunder having no effect on units like Primal Split Brewlings and Ancients neutrals (still doesn't affect roshan)

* Phantom Assassin: Stifling Dagger slow rescaled from 1/2/3/4 seconds to 1.75/2.5/3.25/4
* Phantom Assassin: Level 20 Talent improved from Double Strike Stifling Dagger to Triple Strike Stifling Dagger

* Phoenix: Supernova stun duration from 1.5/2/2.5 to 2/2.5/3.0

* Puck: Waning Rift silence duration increased from 0.75/1.5/2.25/3 to 1.5/2/2.5/3

* Pudge: Level 10 Talent changed from +5 Armor to +30% XP
* Pudge: Level 15 Talent changed from +75 Damage to +12% Rot Slow

* Riki: Base armor increased by 1
* Riki: Base damage increased by 4

* Sand King: Base damage reduced by 3
* Sand King: Caustic Finale slow reduced from 21/24/27/30% to 15/20/25/30%

* Shadow Shaman: Base intelligence increased by 2
* Shadow Shaman: Hex manacost reduced from 110/140/170/200 to 70/110/150/190
* Shadow Shaman: Level 15 Talent increased from -4s Hex Cooldown to -5s
* Shadow Shaman: Level 25 Talent reduced from +60 Wards Attack Damage to +50

* Silencer: Arcane Curse penalty duration increased from 4 to 5 seconds

* Sniper: Assassinate cast range increased from 2000/2500/3000 to 3000
* Sniper: Level 10 Talent changed from +15% Cooldown Reduction to +25%

* Spectre: Level 15 Talent increased from -8s Spectral Dagger Cooldown to -10s

* Spirit Breaker: Greater Bash disable duration increased from 1/1.2/1.4/1.6 to 1.2/1.4/1.6/1.8
* Spirit Breaker: Nether Strike damage reduced from 150/250/350 to 150/200/250
* Spirit Breaker: Level 10 Talent increased from +400 Night Vision to +600

* Sven: Storm Hammer Manacost reduced from 140 to 110/120/130/140

* Terrorblade: Agility gain increased from 3.2 to 3.7

* Tiny: Base movement speed increased from 280 to 285
* Tiny: Tree Throw splash damage increased from 130% to 150%
* Tiny: Grow Status Resistance increased from 20/30/40% to 30/40/50%

* Ursa: Overpower duration increased from 15 to 20
* Ursa: Level 20 Talent changed from +1s Enrage Duration to +1.5s

* Winter Wyvern: Base Intelligence increased by 2

* Wraith King: Mortal Strike skeletons now have 30% Magic Resistance
* Wraith King: Level 15 Talent increased from +25 Skeletons Attack Damage to +35

* Zeus: Lightning Bolt manacost increased from 75/95/115/135 to 90/105/120/135

its_a_me

Austria612 Posts

June 10 2018 15:30 GMT

Nightstalker nerf is way to hard, rest looks ok.

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34502 Posts

June 10 2018 15:34 GMT

Gyrocopter is irrelevant now.

Huskar will be interesting.

Zea!

9589 Posts

June 10 2018 15:35 GMT

Gyro more than dead, shadow shaman back to business?

maze.

Germany1392 Posts

June 10 2018 15:36 GMT

Gyrocopter: Level 15 Talent changed from +3 Flak Cannon Attacks to +0.5s Homing Missile Stun Duration

Should be the end of Gyro.

Terrorblade: Agility gain increased from 3.2 to 3.7

TB back into the meta just before TI?

Crystal Maiden: Crystal Nova cooldown reduced from 12/11/10/9 to 11/10/9/8
* Crystal Maiden: Level 15 Talent increased from +120 Gold/Min to +150

Not enough to bring her back.

Tegenaria

France379 Posts

June 10 2018 15:54 GMT

Come to see a Terrorblade minor nerfs, found a buff, wasn't disapointed by IceFrog.
I think players forget this hero during Super Major but he is still unstoppable when he is 25

GOHF

United States1864 Posts

June 10 2018 15:57 GMT

Can we talk about how Chakra Magic is free now? I think that’s going to be a huge game changer in the laning phase.

701

Hungary13 Posts

June 10 2018 15:57 GMT

I don't understand the why they want to make AM more picked. For years he was one of the most OP heroes, now he is a situational pick as he should be. When a hero that is supposed to be an anti-mage is the number one choice for carry you can tell he's op. He's not anti-hero, he's antimage after all!

Taf the Ghost

United States11751 Posts

June 10 2018 16:14 GMT

Huskar: Level 25 Talent changed from 0 Inner Vitality Cooldown to Burning Spears Pure and Pierces Immunity

Oh, I think that might be broken.

Ursa has gotten a bunch of buffs lately, I'm curious when someone uses it as a pos 2/3 when you need some physical damage.

GOHF

United States1864 Posts

June 10 2018 16:18 GMT

#10

On June 11 2018 01:14 Taf the Ghost wrote:

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Oh, I think that might be broken.

Ursa has gotten a bunch of buffs lately, I'm curious when someone uses it as a pos 2/3 when you need some physical damage.

We’ve seen Ursa mid before, but position 3? He’d be playing as shitty Brewmaster.

11223344

5 Posts

June 10 2018 16:20 GMT

#11

Good stuff

nerf to bane ✔

nerf to bm ✔

nerf to ns ✔

nerf to wisp ✔

Papercappu

Canada2210 Posts

June 10 2018 16:29 GMT

#12

beastmaster is OP because of his aura so why nerf his armor? also is that a DP nerf or buff?

i think overall the meta from supermajor was pretty good but i felt like meta will revert back to static 5 man tanky cores at TI

Furikawari

France2522 Posts

June 10 2018 16:29 GMT

#13

Nerf to bane is not significant enough imo. RIP gyro

Archeon

3265 Posts

June 10 2018 16:44 GMT

#14

RIP gyro and NS, also the SK nerf was a bit uncalled for.

On June 11 2018 00:57 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
Can we talk about how Chakra Magic is free now? I think that’s going to be a huge game changer in the laning phase.

While I think that's a massive buff, Kotl really doesn't fit into the current early fighting meta. He isn't very strong in the early game and he needs 2 items before he comes online, which is just too slow.

On June 11 2018 01:29 Papercappu wrote:
beastmaster is OP because of his aura so why nerf his armor? also is that a DP nerf or buff?

i think overall the meta from supermajor was pretty good but i felt like meta will revert back to static 5 man tanky cores at TI

Should be pretty obvious by now that IF rarely nerfs the OP part of a hero because he wants heroes to be as different as possible.

Gaial

United States313 Posts

June 10 2018 16:45 GMT

#15

I think Gyro would have been fine if the Calldown cd talent and +flak attacks were swapped.

Dekalinder

Italy169 Posts

June 10 2018 16:57 GMT

#16

On June 11 2018 01:29 Papercappu wrote:
beastmaster is OP because of his aura so why nerf his armor? also is that a DP nerf or buff?I

BM is OP because he is a big lane bully thanks to axes, -2 armor means he can't trade as efficiently in lane.

Wineandbread

United States2065 Posts

June 10 2018 17:09 GMT

#17

Imo NS will still see play. Probably even more as a pos3 than before, we saw the strengths of it when you give him levels. Crippling fear CD hurts but it means you get probably only 1 off instead of 2 per fight early, and rectifies itself later on.

Gyro got hit the hardest I think with the flak talent change. The Aghs build can somewhat cover that weakness but I don't know if it's enough

Io got hit but probably not hard enough. Naga barely changed either, but maybe for the best.

The huskar talent is irrelevant imo, you don't pick that hero to go late. Could make for some mean late pubs though.

Lycan probably gonna still be top tier

nojok

France15845 Posts

June 10 2018 17:28 GMT

#18

My biggest hope was to see DP erased from the pro meta and she's barely touched. I'm so tired of seeing this boring hero.

GOHF

United States1864 Posts

June 10 2018 18:00 GMT

#19

Beastmaster's mid-late game weakness is that he's deceptively squishy without BKB. He doesn't normally build tank items and his stat growths are awful. Taking him out of fights is not very difficult.

I want to try to have some fun with offlane Phoenix some more. With the level 20 talent, the Supernova explosion has a 4.25 second duration stun that ignores spell immunity. Still needs to be coupled with another crowd control source to make it effective, but that's a Black Hole disable on a fraction of the cooldown.

Alpino

Brazil4390 Posts

June 10 2018 18:09 GMT

#20

On June 11 2018 00:57 701 wrote:
I don't understand the why they want to make AM more picked. For years he was one of the most OP heroes, now he is a situational pick as he should be. When a hero that is supposed to be an anti-mage is the number one choice for carry you can tell he's op. He's not anti-hero, he's antimage after all!

I'm sure there are many heroes that are much more perennial than AM

Alpino

Brazil4390 Posts

June 10 2018 18:12 GMT

#21

On June 11 2018 00:36 maze. wrote:

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Should be the end of Gyro.

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TB back into the meta just before TI?

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Not enough to bring her back.

TB is good. But this buff doesn't make that much difference. Think the meta has too much focus on bursty strong lanes right now and that's the bigger reason it is not seeing play.

babysimba

10466 Posts

June 10 2018 18:25 GMT

#22

Illidan was already going for barrage talent together with aghs build. Less AOE damage but better in single target burst in fights. So no, I don't think gyro is completely dead.

267

64 Posts

June 10 2018 18:48 GMT

#23

On June 11 2018 02:28 nojok wrote:
My biggest hope was to see DP erased from the pro meta and she's barely touched. I'm so tired of seeing this boring hero.

Yeah I also had my hopes up for DP being nerfed to the ground. The nerf to the euls is essentially a nerf to her movement speed though. Maybe that together with other heroes being buffed is enough to push her out of meta. Please let it be true!

VvvV1251

Algeria142 Posts

June 10 2018 18:50 GMT

#24

Lol another NS nerf, how many times he has been nerfed this year ?

Gyro nerf is too brutal.

BM can no longer man up in the early part of the game with the armor nerf.

Overall, a nice patch. if you overlook the fact that IC killed gyro

Ramiz1989

12124 Posts

June 10 2018 18:54 GMT

#25

Wow, these Pudge buffs are actually solid.

Necro's late game got significant buffs, don't really know, hero has early/mid game problems to the point that he hardly transitions to the late game unless he is stomping the game. Hopefully we will see him being played from time to time.

Huskar level 25 talents are great, but I think that people are overreacting, anyone playing Huskar don't want for game to reach late game, he has certain and almost unstoppable timing widows, he loses late game against other carries. He rushes BKB, and then later when it's 5 seconds he gets cced to death in team fights.

Gyrocopter can still be played as fighting carry, he is no longer the farming carry he was few patches ago, but will probably fall off heavily.

Ramiz1989

12124 Posts

June 10 2018 18:55 GMT

#26

On June 11 2018 03:50 VvvV1251 wrote:
Lol another NS nerf, how many times he has been nerfed this year ?

Gyro nerf is too brutal.

BM can no longer man up in the early part of the game with the armor nerf.

Overall, a nice patch. if you overlook the fact that IC killed gyro

Nothing to overlook to be honest, he was way too good and popular for way too long. I don't think that ANYONE will miss him.

Nopeudon

172 Posts

June 10 2018 20:09 GMT

#27

Gyro's nerf makes him really really bad now, at least in the same way people were doing before. Can't lie, not gonna miss ya...

Zea!

9589 Posts

June 10 2018 20:13 GMT

#28

wrong

550

418 Posts

June 11 2018 03:28 GMT

#29

DK needs a slight buff icefrog

5 ms.

come on

purpe

Canada9 Posts

June 11 2018 07:04 GMT

#30

pretty sure bristle back will start getting picked again now that so many of his counters got hit

Oukka

Finland1683 Posts

June 11 2018 19:57 GMT

#31

I'm surprised that Doom wasn't touched. I have a feeling he'll be quite significant during the summer, teams are picking him into these strong dual lanes quite a lot. Maybe he won't take over but he tends to be a hero that is either too good or not good at all, in the pro games at least.

11223344

5 Posts

June 11 2018 20:28 GMT

#32

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On June 11 2018 01:20 11223344 wrote:
Good stuff

nerf to bane ✔

nerf to bm ✔

nerf to ns ✔

nerf to wisp ✔

Upon further contemplating the patch, these are my thought:

how come Clinkz was buffed and not reworked? [consistently 52-55+ percent winrate in Divine yet never touched in comp]

how come Windrunner was not nerfed despite plaguing Public Match Making and being picked competitively?

how come the game-breakingly misleadingly worded tool tip for Juggernaut's Blade Dance has not yet been fixed????

Nymzee

3929 Posts

June 11 2018 22:31 GMT

#33

Miracle PA just in time for TI?

Triple Stifling Dagger one shotting supports?

Taf the Ghost

United States11751 Posts

June 11 2018 22:52 GMT

#34

On June 12 2018 04:57 Oukka wrote:
I'm surprised that Doom wasn't touched. I have a feeling he'll be quite significant during the summer, teams are picking him into these strong dual lanes quite a lot. Maybe he won't take over but he tends to be a hero that is either too good or not good at all, in the pro games at least.

Doom can be somewhat countered. His strength is always relative to the type of lineup on the other side and the skill of the Doom player. As a result, he's a better late-draft pick up, but almost no one holds their offlane that late in a draft. Thus, a team can adjust their draft approach when he comes out.

Archeon

3265 Posts

June 11 2018 23:01 GMT

#35

On June 12 2018 05:28 11223344 wrote:
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On June 11 2018 01:20 11223344 wrote:
Good stuff

nerf to bane ✔

nerf to bm ✔

nerf to ns ✔

nerf to wisp ✔

@WR: Because she isn't that relevant in the pro scene (yet) and the patch clearly worded that this one and probably the next few are going to focus on TI.

@Clinkz: see WR.

On June 11 2018 03:54 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Wow, these Pudge buffs are actually solid.

Necro's late game got significant buffs, don't really know, hero has early/mid game problems to the point that he hardly transitions to the late game unless he is stomping the game. Hopefully we will see him being played from time to time.

Huskar level 25 talents are great, but I think that people are overreacting, anyone playing Huskar don't want for game to reach late game, he has certain and almost unstoppable timing widows, he loses late game against other carries. He rushes BKB, and then later when it's 5 seconds he gets cced to death in team fights.

Gyrocopter can still be played as fighting carry, he is no longer the farming carry he was few patches ago, but will probably fall off heavily.

Huskar is mainly an early game brawler because BKB counters him pretty hard. So that 25 will definitely make him stay relevant for longer, although he prolly is going to have 5-10 weak minutes between the first bkbs and his 25, then peak a second time (if he didn't loose too much in the 5-10 mins) just to fall off later on again. So while I doubt it's enough for him to see regular play, I do think it's a pretty significant buff.

nayumi

Australia6499 Posts

June 11 2018 23:56 GMT

#36

good patch ... i hate gyro as a hero... so ugly to look at ... would be good if he doesn't appear 9/10 games this TI

inzru

New Zealand4 Posts

June 17 2018 07:38 GMT

#37

Honestly I've watched BSJ play NS safelane and offlane as last-pick hero when the draft just needs something tanky & aggressive, and he's stomped every time (high 6k and 7k games). The nerfs are noticeable but by no means enough to remove him from the TI8 meta, I think.

inzru

New Zealand4 Posts

June 17 2018 07:38 GMT

#38

On June 12 2018 08:56 nayumi wrote:
good patch ... i hate gyro as a hero... so ugly to look at ... would be good if he doesn't appear 9/10 games this TI

lol couldn't agree more!

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